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BRING THEM DOWN
Texan kids and their teachers are being instructed to fight back should a gunman invade their schools:
“Getting under desks and praying for rescue from professionals is not a recipe for success,” said Robin Browne, a major in the British Army reserve and an instructor for Response Options, the company providing the training ...
Browne recommends students and teachers “react immediately to the sight of a gun by picking up anything and everything and throwing it at the head and body of the attacker and making as much noise as possible. Go toward him as fast as we can and bring them down.
“We show them they can win,” he said. “The fact that someone walks into a classroom with a gun does not make them a god. Five or six seventh-grade kids and a 95-pound art teacher can basically challenge, bring down and immobilize a 200-pound man with a gun.”
Natch, some are “troubled” by this excellent idea (which would be improved by equipping that skinny art teacher with something useful, or at least a .38). Hit the link for more details.
Note that this is suburban Ft. Worth, actually Burleson, which is not where Kim du Toit lives, but is extremely close both geographically and sociologically.
And the story, and Tim’s post about it, remind me of something I’ve been noticing for a long time: the proggs tend to have a ridiculous overestimation of the effectiveness of weapons. My guess is that it’s because their only information about guns, bombs, grenades, etc. comes from Hollywood special effects, where a couple of ounces of Semtex generates a fireball that completely consumes a car and a single shot from an unidentified-but-small handweapon takes out 100-kilo bad guys every time.
A gun is only pointed in one direction. The other 359.9 degrees of the circle aren’t being menaced, and the people occupying them are free to throw things and/or shoot at the perp. My only reservation about what they’re teaching the kids is that nobody’s going to shoot the shysters who decide to take advantage of the situation when something actually comes up and those tactics are used.
Regards,
RicI left a comment at Dr. Helen’s site that a perpetrator intent on shooting unarmed kids is probably going to be startled and indecisive when attacked by those same kids. It would buy enough time for most of them at least to get away, and at best they’d be able to bring the guy down. I wish they were teaching self-defense at my grandkids’ public school.
Now the next things they can do are:
1) Stop making it into a psychodrama afterward - no memorial candlelight vigils, no expressions of forgiveness for the perp(s), no shrines, etc. This encourages more attacks.
2) Make it clear to all police organizations that cowardice like that exhibited by the Colorado police will result in immediate termination of employment.
Taking the bastard down with what you have is a superb tactic, especialy if you have no other options. We’d have fewer victims and more injured/dead criminals if this attitude were more common.
This is excellent training and should be required across the country. Not that would happen, but it should.
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2006 10 15 at 05:15 PM • permalinkEssential Precautions:
Restrain the invader gently, be sure to put a hand behind the head as he or she falls on the floor or wall.
Be sure the safety catch is on the weapon before removing it, handling it in a way to preserve finger-prints.
Never apply enough force to leave any bruises or cause strains, or the Education Authority will have to pay huge damages to this individual for life.I’ve always imagined that I would instinctively react in such a situation—should I have had the grave misfortune to leave my .45 in the car—by charging forward with a desk or table as my battering ram.
The son-of-a-bitch might still get me, but momentum—and perhaps another “fool” following me—would get him.
Posted by Rittenhouse on 2006 10 15 at 07:12 PM • permalinkBeautiful.
And, as Mark Steyn has been saying for a while, it should also be goodbye to “1970s” airline hijack procedures.
There have been enough bad endings to school sieges and hijackings that on balance, we are all much safer if the general population has the instinct to charge and take no bullshit.
This sort of behaviour takes guts, and a bit of training and “conditioning” of society. For too long we have been implicitly taught to be meek and sheep-like, and to aquiesce.
I hope we are turning a corner….hostesses wrestling airline shoe-bombers to the ground is a positive sign, and I hope a sign of things to come.
Posted by closeapproximation on 2006 10 15 at 07:24 PM • permalink2) Make it clear to all police organizations that cowardice like that exhibited by the Colorado police will result in immediate termination
of employment.Minor correction.
Posted by Rob Crawford on 2006 10 15 at 07:56 PM • permalinkI was delighted to find recently that in Michigan, one who has a concealed carry permit and who can get a private investigator’s license (which isn’t exactly brain surgery) is then legal to carry in all sorts of places others would not be (like schools and churches).
Recently upon entering a courthouse in Michigan I had my nail clippers first confiscated then returned after they *broke off the tiny nail file*. I was, at the time, accidentally in possession of a pocket knife with 3 blades, one 2.5 inches long, which they overlooked. Not that it really mattered. I was also in possession of several items that could be used with deadly force by one so inclined.
Idiots.
Posted by JorgXMcKie on 2006 10 15 at 08:05 PM • permalink#1
Hmmm. Maybe the answer is to pass out firearms at the beginning of the school day and collect them at the end.
I recall after 9/11 when there were calls to increase security and further prevent weapons being taken onto aircraft, a few Americans made the point - what if everybody on the plane could carry guns?
A silly argument that didn’t seem entirely silly…
#15
I had peanuts.
I got up, sat back down—no peanuts.
(click) Where are my peanuts, m*****f****r?
Posted by MentalFloss on 2006 10 15 at 10:22 PM • permalink
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Now you’re talking. That’s the American way. If you’re going to try taking me out, you’re going to have to fight to do it.
I recall a Mark Steyn column a few years back regarding a student at a West Virginia law school that tried to take a gun into a school building and killl a professor and possibly some students too. He didn’t get far because several other students saw it and pulled guns out of their cars. They did a Barney Fife—they stopped the situation before it started.
Hmmm. Maybe the answer is to pass out firearms at the beginning of the school day and collect them at the end.