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BUSH UNBLAMED

According to this CNN/USA Today/Gallup poll, most Americans don’t blame Bush:

Respondents also disagreed widely on who is to blame for the problems in the city following the hurricane—13 percent said Bush, 18 percent said federal agencies, 25 percent blamed state or local officials and 38 percent said no one is to blame. And 63 percent said they do not believe anyone at federal agencies responsible for handling emergencies should be fired as a result.

It wasn’t a vast poll—just 609 people—so it’ll be interesting to see if it indicates broader feeling.

Posted by Tim B. on 09/07/2005 at 12:26 PM
  1. 15 per cent of respondents also blamed Bush for dandruff.

    Posted by slammer on 2005 09 07 at 01:40 PM • permalink

  2. I have faith that most Americans are grownups.  Unfortunately, the non-grownups seem to have most of the microphones.

    Posted by RebeccaH on 2005 09 07 at 02:53 PM • permalink

  3. 5 per cent said Katrina, and the aftermath, is the wrath of god for on a hedonistic moshpit.

    Perhaps if some of the respondents, journalists, and commentators had some on the ground experience there, a greater understanding of the social dynamics would explain the lack of local government preparedness, the lack of gear and provisions for the projected numbers seeking in-city refuge, and the simple refusal of some of the residents to heed evacuations orders.

    St. Gabriel story was great, Roy Joy.  I was there on Sunday.

    Posted by duh on 2005 09 07 at 02:54 PM • permalink

  4. Sweet, gentle Jesus.

    The bodies are literally not cold, and this is the important question of the day?

    Tell you what. It is all my fault. Blame me. I’ll kill myself in due course.

    Now shut up and help!

    Posted by Parker on 2005 09 07 at 02:55 PM • permalink

  5. The accuracy of a poll doesn’t depend on the size of the population but on the size of the sample, unless there’s some stupid selection being done, which is often true of polls, large or small.

    A 3% error is a lot bigger in counts of people with a big population, but it’s still only a 3% error.

    Posted by rhhardin on 2005 09 07 at 02:57 PM • permalink

  6. Parker: The bodies are literally not cold, and this is the important question of the day?

    Ask the MSM.  They’re the ones playing Bongo the Chimp on the blame-Bush drum.

    Oh no!  I spent a whole minute typing this post instead of helping.  I’m a horrible, horrible person.

    Posted by Achillea on 2005 09 07 at 03:36 PM • permalink

  7. Achillea -

        Yes. Yes, you are.

        But we love you, anyway.

        Now go give to a charity you trust, and I’ll do the same.

    [If it wasn’t obvious, I was only addressing the wankers - not the virtuous sons and daughters of the Great Lord Tim…]

    Posted by Parker on 2005 09 07 at 03:44 PM • permalink

  8. Right now the msm are huddled together asking themselves what went wrong with our news coverage that failed to make the little people see who’s to blame.

    Posted by zefal on 2005 09 07 at 05:27 PM • permalink

  9. These 609 people were probably handpicked to be anti-Bush, so the population at large must be ten maybe twenty points higher.

    Posted by blerp on 2005 09 07 at 06:08 PM • permalink

  10. I can’t get my head around the overwhelming numbers of people (79%!) who say they believe gas prices are “high” (as opposed to just “higher”). Nationwide average price today is USD 3.04/gallon.  This equates to GBP 0.43/liter or AUD 1.05/liter. 

    The “prices unfair” meme is a little more explicable since that perception is fed by every story that focuses on retail price changes but neglects to mention whether profit margins have changed.

    Posted by debo.v2 on 2005 09 07 at 06:22 PM • permalink

  11. OT - The last missing Australian has been found. In jail. Love this from his sister:

    Ms Mutnansky believed he was arrested in New Orleans on August 27, almost as soon as he arrived in the city.

    She said he was most likely arrested for drunk and disorderly conduct.

    “He probably had one too many and got loud – it wouldn’t have been anything serious,” Ms Mutnansky said from her home in Tennessee.

    An Aussie tourist drunk and disorderly? Yep, sounds like a positive ID to me.

    —Nora

    Posted by The Thin Man Returns on 2005 09 07 at 06:28 PM • permalink

  12. The MSM spent considerable time and energy reporting about Bush’s alleged attempts to escape active duty in Vietnam by joining the Texas Air National Guard.  An issue virtually no one gave a shit about.

    I think it’s virtually certainly that the MSM, the Democratic Party, the leftist liberals, and all anti-Bushites around the world won’t give up beating the “Bush is a racist and let the darkies die!” drum for a long time.

    Posted by wronwright on 2005 09 07 at 06:33 PM • permalink

  13. Obviously not a poll Michael Gawenda would consider credible.
    Have a look at his report in the SMH today and you will have no illusions as to how much America hates Bush for causing this disaster.
    http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/attacks-on-bush-continue-to-grow/2005/09/07/1125772584569.html

    Posted by Harold on 2005 09 07 at 07:03 PM • permalink

  14. A poll of 600 people is perfectly valid to measure figures like this, provided the sample is representative and well randomised. In fact, it is vastly better than a poll of 600,000 people if the latter has a biased selection proces or is self-selected. Such polls are usually worse than useless.

    Posted by zscore on 2005 09 07 at 07:11 PM • permalink

  15. Just 13% blame President Bush for post-hurricane stumbles.

    I was both shocked and reassured by this number, as it shows most Americans aren’t as gullible or as stupid as the MSM would hope them to be.

    Of course the MSM wont stop with this one failure to knee-cap President Bush (and Republicans in general).

    Most likely they will get back on the Mother-Sheehan pile (to borrow a visual from South-Park) as soon as an appropriate amount of time appears to have passed.

    Posted by Thomas on 2005 09 07 at 07:22 PM • permalink

  16. I don’t know that the MSM is trying to fool the American people.  Rather, they’re trying to hold the American soap opera audience, which is what they sell to advertisers.

    I think the majority has been kissed off long ago as too hard to attract.  Soap opera people are easy, and a large group, ratingswise if not majoritywise.  Anyway the best they can do.

    So that’s their business model.

    The bad thing is that soap opera fans filter the national discourse on everything as a result.

    Posted by rhhardin on 2005 09 07 at 08:11 PM • permalink

  17. Nora,
    I was in St. Gabriel on Sunday! Didn’t see him, but there used to be a notorious bar near there called the Country Place that’s predominant clientele went there solely for the purpose of being drunken and disorderly!

    If he gets hung up, post something here as I am acquainted w/ a few attorneys and judges in the area.

    Posted by duh on 2005 09 07 at 08:44 PM • permalink

  18. Pardon my poor punctuation, grammar and syntax….haven’t had my rum yet!

    ARRRGGHHHH. Squawck(parrot on me shoulder making commentary).

    Posted by duh on 2005 09 07 at 08:46 PM • permalink

  19. I wager that the MSM wont let those poll numbers stand for long. London to a brick some august journal such as NYT or Time roll out there own version of what the American people think.

    Posted by larrikin on 2005 09 07 at 08:49 PM • permalink

  20. Who would you rather put your faith in: The MSM or the people?

    Posted by lingus4 on 2005 09 07 at 10:26 PM • permalink

  21. I think this result indicates that claims of a “mass media revival” in the wake of Katrina are overstated.

    If anything, it seems people are even less likely to believe the MSM than they were before.

    Posted by Evil Pundit on 2005 09 07 at 10:31 PM • permalink

  22. Okay - would someone be kind enough to spell out the MSM abbreviation for me (sorry for being a dill) - is it mainstream mass media? 

    Thanking you in advance and anticipation.

    Posted by Ck on 2005 09 07 at 10:57 PM • permalink

  23. CHICKENPOLLER!

    Posted by mojo on 2005 09 07 at 11:24 PM • permalink

  24. CkHart:

    Drop the “mass” and you shall find what you ask.

    Me no makee good rhyme.

    {:^(

    oh well…

    Posted by Thomas on 2005 09 08 at 12:08 AM • permalink

  25. Thanks Thomas! Cute squiggly face, even if no rhyme.

    Posted by Ck on 2005 09 08 at 12:10 AM • permalink

  26. Parker, I am not “virtuous”.  In fact, I’m gonna have to find a new vice now that you’ve even dared to associate me with “virtuous”.  Thanks a heap, pal!

    Back on thread….

    Hey, where’s Skeptic?  I thought he/she/it would be all over this.

    Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2005 09 08 at 01:17 AM • permalink

  27. Someone slap me for paraphrasing Doonesbury, but those thirteen percent are all journalists.

    Posted by Sortelli on 2005 09 08 at 01:31 AM • permalink

  28. More poll data here.

    Posted by Evil Pundit on 2005 09 08 at 04:40 AM • permalink

  29. Hah!  Got an e-mail from a friend, which reads in part:

    “I think the local and then the state dropped the ball and started yelling
    for the Feds to come in a bail them out and by then… it took time.  I don’t think anyone expected the Dome to become an extended shelter.  I think they figured a few hours and everyone can go home…HUMMM

    Now its all BUSH’S fault.  Now wait one minute!  I may not be a Bush fan but this one isn’t his fault.”

    And my friend is not a Bush fan by any definition, although she can’t be classified as a “Democrat”.  But my friend (who has some experience in the disaster relief community) was not fooled by this tripe on the news.

    Would that we have more such rational people speaking their minds!!!!

    Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2005 09 08 at 04:47 AM • permalink

  30. I’m surprised more don’t blame Bush. There’s a solid core of close to 20% who hate him and blame him, or Rove, for everything and anything in every poll I’ve seen in the last 4 years.
    I’m like Dr. Hibbard in that I laugh at all the wrong things, but it’s not really funny. Bush could get caught with a dead woman and a live boy in his bed and 85% of the US would yawn and say, “That liberal media again.”
    The media who cried “Hitler” has lost all credibility.

    Posted by Veeshir on 2005 09 08 at 07:27 AM • permalink

  31. NBC White House reporter David Gregory argues with White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan over what sound byte makes it into the soap opera news http://rhhardin.home.mindspring.com/imuscut.blamegame.ram somebody must have transcribed it but I don’t see it.

    It sounds superficially like an angels-on-the-head-of-a-pin argument, but it’s really about getting soap into the soap opera (David Gregory’s goal) and the assignment of keeping it out of the soap opera (McClellan’s assignment).  It’s in particular not about anything real.

    There’s lots of posturing

    Posted by rhhardin on 2005 09 08 at 12:16 PM • permalink

  32. Parker,

    I have been homeless since fall of 2002 due to some slumlords and their henchmen determined that I wouldn’t win my case against them despite overwhelming evidence and statute.

    I lost my possessions, my job, my gpa at grad school, the down payment towards a home, my health, and perhaps a bit more of my sanity and compassion. No one rescued me, in fact the cops were sicked on me. Getting health care was an ordeal in itself.

    A few kind strangers helped out w/ a roof over my head but no group, government or otherwise, extended a hand to me, including the VA who I battled w/ for years and begged for assistance in getting a job.

    I have lived in my car, in a pop-up camper for a year, on friends’ sofas for a couple of years, in a tent off and on, here and there at parks and campgrounds.  I guess I have a different perspective. 

    As much as I would like to rush in and help, and believe me I do have some insight into what these people are feeling, I simply cannot….my health is precarious and if I contracted something, there would be no care for me, I have little money for food, gas, lodging so I cannot make a donation.

    I have learned to live so frugally it would astonish you.  I have had jobs that probably would rival the toughest amongst you, the hardest being raising my son, alone, through, quite a bit of that.  No, I have compassion, just not the means to rush in where angels fear to tread.

    I am saddened that it takes extreme catastrophe to get the attention of anyone anymore and I am acquainted w/ some of the loudest lefties screaming for blood; none of them provided assistance in my plight, just kicked more dirt in. My disaster was completely, irrefutably man-made.

    The people in N.O. paid the price for having unprepared, unqualified personnel in positions that were critical for their immediate survival.

    Posted by duh on 2005 09 08 at 09:48 PM • permalink

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