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CAN’T STAND THE HEAT

Only last year, global warm-monger Tim Flannery indicated his contempt for industry leaders:

The people who are still resisting calls for action are leaders of industry who have “set out systematically to deceive the public on this matter,” Flannery said.

“I hate the term special interests,” he said. “Why don’t we call them people who want to make money through continuing to pollute the planet? Why dignify them?”

Why indeed. In fact, why even speak to them? Well, here are a few reasons:

Australian of the Year Tim Flannery has revealed he is charging up to $US50,000 to deliver speeches ...

The climate change crusader has confirmed the $US50,000 ($A64,000) fee to deliver speeches to American corporations - making him Australia’s highest paid public speaker.

Despite his cash-for-comment riches, however, Flannery is an unhappy fellow:

He said the [Australian of the Year] honour had been soured by a campaign to discredit his views on global warming by industrial “polluters”.

“There are a number of people out there trying to blacken my name at the moment, saying that I want to close the coal industry and all this sort of stuff,” he said. “There is a real attempt to marginalise me and what I say.”

Let’s take a look at Flannery’s maginalised opinions on the coal industry (this selection entirely from interviews with the ABC):

2005: “The single most important thing that could be done now would be to say, no more coal-fired power plants for Australia, ever. And over the next 20 or 30 years, a phase-out of the worst polluters.”

2005: “Coal-burning, not fishermen, are the greatest threat to [Great Barrier Reef].”

2006: “Fifty years ago Australia rode on the sheep’s back and wool was worth a pound a pound and no one could think beyond that could they? No one could have imagined this wonderful new economy that we’ve grown based on other resources. And the same is going to be true for coal, we will make that transition into a new economy and we will be better off and the sooner we act the more cost-effective that transition’s going to be and the greater the benefits will be to all of us.”

2007: “At the moment we’re heading in a very bad direction, because it’s clear that the pollution that’s been caused by burning coal is simply intolerable. It’s doing enormous damage to our planet.”

2007: To avert biological disaster, Flannery argues the coal industry should be shunted aside ... “We need to decarbonise the economy extremely rapidly ...  There are a lot of ways to make electricity. Burning coal is just one of the more antique and stupid ways of doing it.”

2007: “As Australia proceeds as the world’s largest exporter of coal and the largest per capita user of coal, what we are doing is being the foremost players in precipitating climatic chaos, that our children will have to live through, where we’ll see increased immigration of people around the world, putting pressure on the political systems that keep us at peace rather than war.”

2007: “The social licence of coal to operate is rapidly being withdrawn globally, and no government can protect an industry from that sort of thing occurring. We’ve seen it with asbestos. We’ll see it with coal. The reason is that, when you look at the proportion of the damage being done by coal now, it is significant, but that grows greatly in future. We have to deal with that issue if we want a stable climate. I think that we do need to ultimately close down those coal-fired power plants ...”

How on earth could people ever have imagined Flannery wanted to shut down the coal industry? Perhaps they’ve been influenced by those devious polluters:

Asked who was behind the muck-raking, Professor Flannery said: “People who want to keep polluting. To keep the business going. People who won’t face the new reality and their backers, both politically and socially.”

This “new reality” sure is paying off for Flannery:

Professor Flannery will depart on another international speaking tour next month.

Beforehand, he’s commenced a local whining tour:

“So, I’m not supposed to earn a living?’’ Flannery told Crikey.

“It’s a campaign. No doubt about it. My true opinions are ignored, and the effect is to smear me and undermine my integrity.

’‘I think that part of the strategy in place here is to get me to expend valuable time in engaging with this stuff, thus diverting me from dealing with climate change,” says Flannery. “There’s also a risk of being dragged into litigation, which would chew up more time.

’‘So I intend to single mindedly get on with the job of dealing with climate change, which means treating articles like this with the lofty
disdain they deserve,” says Flannery.

Says Flannery, exhibiting no lofty disdain at all. This final comment is a masterpiece:

“Strange how some export industries are lauded, but mine, speaking and writing internationally, is not.”

Flannery’s a one-man industry. Laud him.

Posted by Tim B. on 02/15/2007 at 12:01 PM
  1. Does he have to take off his hat before he urinates?

    Posted by Mystery Meat on 2007 02 15 at 12:31 PM • permalink

  2. Here’s a guy that doesn’t need any of those touchy, feely self-esteem boosting programs! Do you think he and the Gorebot could fit in the same room? I’d recommend one that is sound-proof. With a lock. On the outside.

    Posted by Retread on 2007 02 15 at 12:54 PM • permalink

  3. ...part of the strategy in place here is to get me to expend valuable time in engaging with this stuff, thus diverting me from dealing with climate change…

    Wow, what a great idea. Who thought of it?

    The notion that we’re going to stop burning coal, cheap and ubiquitous, any time soon is a greenie wet dream. Better they should channel their efforts into developing clean methods of producing coal based energy. But, then, they’re not exactly results oriented, are they.

    Posted by Kyda Sylvester on 2007 02 15 at 12:55 PM • permalink

  4. The only thing worse than an alarmist who can’t keep his hyperbole straight, is a highly-paid alarmist who can’t keep his hyperbole straight.

    Pointing out his hypocrisy makes you part of the “polluter” cabal out to “undermine his integrity”, doesn’t it Tim?

    Posted by Spiny Norman on 2007 02 15 at 12:56 PM • permalink

  5. Do you reckon this fame thingy has gone to Flannery’s head?

    Posted by murph on 2007 02 15 at 01:09 PM • permalink

  6. I’m glad to see that these global warming crusaders actually TAKE filthy lucre to spread their message.  It’s hard to tell WHERE their money comes from by virtue of their, oh…say… Wikipedia Bio Entries ~ you’ll notice nothing but accolades and crusades to his credit ~  unlike those Petroleum Industry WHORES Global Warming/Holocaust Denying/Polar Bear Gonad Shrinking BASTARDS, whose Wiki Bio Entries helpfully point out the tainted source of their income:

    Claims on funding sources

    In a 1995 article in Harper’s Magazine, Ross Gelbspan asserted that Lindzen “charges oil and coal interests $2,500 a day for his consulting services; [and] his 1991 trip to testify before a Senate committee was paid for by Western Fuels and a speech he wrote, entitled ‘Global Warming: the Origin and Nature of Alleged Scientific Consensus,’ was underwritten by OPEC.”

    Posted by tree hugging sister on 2007 02 15 at 01:40 PM • permalink

  7. Reading about Flannery makes me wish for more David Suzuki (or even Gore) threads instead. Goodness, is Flannery ever a sanctimonious asshole. Australian of the Year, indeed.

    Posted by PW on 2007 02 15 at 01:48 PM • permalink

  8. Flannery’s a one-man industry. Laud him.

    Tim, you misspelled “Hold him in utter contempt (if you think about him at all.”

    Posted by Barbara Skolaut on 2007 02 15 at 01:55 PM • permalink

  9. Oops.  Left out the closing parenthesis.

    Posted by Barbara Skolaut on 2007 02 15 at 01:57 PM • permalink

  10. I wonder how much he’d charge if a major TV network had him debate, oh, say that Princeton climatoligist who can prove gorbot wormelling is bogus? How about doing a pay-per-view where the winner gets to keep all the money? Flannery’d have to walk home.

    Posted by GaryS on 2007 02 15 at 02:11 PM • permalink

  11. Speaking of heat:

    Japanese whaling ship afire in Antarctic

    TOKYO - Officials warned of a potential environmental disaster in Antarctica after fire erupted Thursday on a Japanese whaling ship, as the search continued for a missing crewmen from the crippled ship.

    Japanese officials said the blaze that broke out in the below-decks area of the 8,000-ton Nisshin Maru where whale carcasses are processed had been brought under control.


    LINK

    Note they don’t mention the Sea Sheperds until the very end. What’s being reported on this down under?

    Posted by Hellbilly on 2007 02 15 at 02:14 PM • permalink

  12. What honesty is from one individual to another, integrity is to one’s self—i.e., integrity is honesty with one’s self.  How does another undermine one’s integrity?  Perhaps it is that he lies to himself as well as others.  Calling him on it, forcing him to continually reinforce the lies he tells himself is what undermines his integrity.  It takes a lot of work to lie to one’s self; it is work to consciously turn one’s reasoning mind into a pretzel that distorts reality to make it fit the fantasy one prefers.

    Note that Flannery seeks a “stable climate”.  When, pray tell, in the entire history of the earth has the climate been “stable”.  The earth is dynamic; for good or ill, this means that it is forever changing.  What good is science to us if we turn it against ourselves by trying to control that which is out of our power to control, rather than helping us to know what we must do to live and thrive with the changes.  May changes his environment in order to live, but to do so, he must always remember that nature must be obeyed.  He doesn’t want natural stability, which is impossible (thank goodness—look at the “stable” environment of, say, Mars), he wants people to stand still so that he doesn’t have to deal with change.  This is Rousseau’s Utopian wet dream writ large.

    I would also rail against the idea that because someone has an interest in what the political establishment does to them, that a person (or group of people) has an interest, means that they are indulging in nefarious activities, such as lying in order to deliberately destroy the earth just to make a profit.  It is time someone call these yahoos who say things like, “Well, he’s paid as a consultant to oil companies, so of course he’d deny everything,” as though that were a valid argument, or any kind of argument at all, for that matter.  It ignores the fact that Mr. Flannery, and all the rest of the Gorebal minions, are also paid consultants to interested parties on the other side of the question.  Perhaps they are projecting their own motives onto others, others who work for a living by actually producing something besides a whine at the universe.

    If we want to lower man-made emissions of carbon-dioxide, perhaps we could outlaw the Flannerys of the world.  Now that’s a win-win proposition.

    Posted by saltydog on 2007 02 15 at 02:43 PM • permalink

  13. Please forgive the many mistakes in my previous post, especially the massive abuse of pronouns, and the use of “May” instead of man.  I hit Submit when I meant to hit Preview.

    I blame this creeping old-timers disease.

    Posted by saltydog on 2007 02 15 at 02:53 PM • permalink

  14. Professor Flannery will depart on another international speaking tour next month.

    Will Carbon Boy travel on foot, or by bicycle?

    Posted by Don't Bogart that Midget, Comrade! on 2007 02 15 at 03:04 PM • permalink

  15. What the fuck good are us miserable American capitalist bastards if we blow 50 large on shitheads like THAT? What’s the point of free enterprise if the profits get flushed down the crapper that way?

    Damn. At least under the commies, guys like that wound up in the gulag, not on the payroll.

    Posted by SoberHT on 2007 02 15 at 03:15 PM • permalink

  16. Um, let’s see. I got paid $50,000 for that little trip to the States to talk about my gold mine climate change to those little nice American corporations. I wonder what I can do to improve that… Hmm, ok, I traveled by plane about 18,000 miles to get there and back… at 0.9682 pounds of CO2 per passenger-mile divided by 2,205 that’s 7.9 metric tons of CO2 for that trip alone! ... Hey, that’s $50,000/7.9 = $6326 per metric ton!! How cheap can those American corporations who want to make money through continuing to pollute the planet get? If they are going to force me to travel that far to speak to them, they must pay more for each metric ton of CO2 they force me to generate. Yes, that’ll show them for making me produce more CO2. Next time it’ll have to be at least $100,000 per trip to lower that figure to at least $3,163 per metric ton. And next year $ 200,000…

    What do you say? That I can use PACO Industries CARBON REDUCING BOOTS™ to halve the amount of CO2 generated, and they only cost $5,000 per pair? No, because that’s too expensive per trip. What? They are guaranteed by PACO Industries for 10 years of continuous use? [Think fast!] Wait a minute, waaait a minute ... isn’t that the same PACO Industries that advertise at Tim Blair’s blog site, that %*&$#*#@^%#^ fanatical climate change denier? Sir, I’m morally compelled to reject that approach!

    Posted by ElectronPower on 2007 02 15 at 03:16 PM • permalink

  17. Wow, sweet gig: get paid by the very people you are slamming. If the corporate heads of the world were really the rapacious, greedy, uncaring monsters in human form that people like Flannery are always painting them as, instead of the fearful, timid, placating wads of compliant play-doh that they actually are, he not only would be out of a job but would probably have long since been dispatched to his reward by those hired company goons that never seem to manifest themselves in real life.

    Posted by Andrea Harris, Administrator on 2007 02 15 at 03:19 PM • permalink

  18. That’s a laud, all right. But it ain’t coal…

    Posted by mojo on 2007 02 15 at 03:40 PM • permalink

  19. Sounds like Tim Flannery has taken a page from Jesse Jackson’s book on how to fund his “Rainbow Coalition” (link is SFW).  Wotta surprise.

    Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2007 02 15 at 03:45 PM • permalink

  20. #17, Andrea:

    Beeeutifully said.

    Posted by saltydog on 2007 02 15 at 03:50 PM • permalink

  21. So Flannery’s taking a sailing ship on his overseas speaking tour? Oh, you say he’s flying?

    Posted by Rob Crawford on 2007 02 15 at 03:55 PM • permalink

  22. Tim Flannery

    “There are a number of people out there trying to blacken my name at the moment, saying that I want to close the coal industry and all this sort of stuff,” he said.

    Add one more to the list of people out there trying to blacken my name

    “There is a real attempt to marginalise me and what I say.”

    You do that surprising well, all by your lonesome.

    Posted by El Cid on 2007 02 15 at 04:24 PM • permalink

  23. Amongst all this AGW hue and cry, I have to keep asking myself what qualification or expertise does Tim Flannery have in climate science, what original research has he done to justify his prominence in the scientific debate?

    Posted by chrisgo on 2007 02 15 at 04:29 PM • permalink

  24. “So, I’m not supposed to earn a living?’’ Flannery told Crikey.

    $2000 or so per speech could possibly be considered “earning a living”, by those who actually work for one. $50000(US) per speech is more like… (what’s that charming term used by leftists?)... “price gouging”.

    Posted by AlburyShifton on 2007 02 15 at 04:38 PM • permalink

  25. “I hate the term special interests,” he said.

    Oh, because the Global Warming Industry certainly isn’t one, is it?

    “Why don’t we call them people who want to make money through continuing to pollute the planet?

    Why don’t we call Mr. Flannery one of the people who want to extort money by scaring the hell out of the public with constant doomsday scenarios?

    Why dignify them?”

    Now he’s getting the picture.

    Posted by RebeccaH on 2007 02 15 at 04:48 PM • permalink

  26. Flannery’s a one-man industry. Laud him.

    All glory, laud and honor,
    To Thee, Flannery, King,
    To Whom the future children
    Made sweet cash registers ring.

    Thou art the King of Luddites,
    Thou Al Gore’s loyal Son,
    Who in Gaia’s Name comest,
    The Pricey, Speechy One.

    Posted by AlburyShifton on 2007 02 15 at 04:51 PM • permalink

  27. If we apply the same logic as Flannery’s Antarctic Ice Theory (it’s changed x% a year for two years, so it’ll keep doing that forever), his speaking fees should reach a couple of billion per speech in no time.

    Maybe with all that money he can buy a sense of humour, or at least a sense of perspective on his own importance.

    Posted by Behemoth on 2007 02 15 at 04:51 PM • permalink

  28. So after reading this, are global warming adherents seriously going to tell us that people like Flannery have no financial interest in talking up global warming?

    Good luck to him for making a buck but no-one would be paying him anything for speeches if it wasn’t for his extreme views on global warming. He has no incentive to be balanced or reasonable. He is bought and paid for.

    Posted by Francis H on 2007 02 15 at 05:08 PM • permalink

  29. Why is it that these supposedly bold latter day prophets are in reality just a big bunch of sooks? Can you imagine how much whinging George W or John Howard would be doing if they were even half as sensitive to criticism as these enviro-wankers?

    Posted by AlburyShifton on 2007 02 15 at 05:14 PM • permalink

  30. Laud him

    ‘Laud’? That sounds familiar:

    William Laud (October 7, 1573 – January 10, 1645) was Archbishop of Canterbury and a fervent supporter of King Charles I of England, whom he encouraged to believe in divine right. His support for Charles, absolute monarchy, and his persecuting of opposing views led to his beheading in the midst of the English Civil War.

    Now don’t lose your head, Tim F.

    Posted by David Morgan on 2007 02 15 at 05:31 PM • permalink

  31. That Ollie Cromwell - always joking around!

    Posted by AlburyShifton on 2007 02 15 at 05:36 PM • permalink

  32. “The social licence of coal to operate is rapidly being withdrawn globally”

    Yeah, sure. China is commissioning a new coal-fired power station every week
    Flannery doesn’t care about facts any more -he’s a Keynote Speaker aftr all.

    “There are a number of people out there trying to blacken my name at the moment,

    A very small number if his consensus is really correct.  But this ‘scientist’ is trying to STAMP OUT even these beleaguered, non-comforming souls.

    Flannery cries victim?

    Posted by Barrie on 2007 02 15 at 05:43 PM • permalink

  33. Flannery’s real field is palaeonology [fossil study]. This science is well-known for its bitchy fights between warring research groups, with very strong opinions but not enough solid facts.
    It figures.

    Posted by Barrie on 2007 02 15 at 05:54 PM • permalink

  34. When he invests all his filthy lucre in a massive “green” power station of the variety he claims will “make coal history” and produces his power for the same price Ill call him a genius.
    Up until then hes nothing more than a doom monger. His ancestors cut out hearts at one stage to appease the sun. They then went on to selling possets of herbs during the plauge. From there it was a short step to claiming vehicles going over 15mph would kill people as the air would be sucked out and they couldnt breathe.
    They really hit their stride in the 20th century with oil running out, global cooling, Y2K, nuclear war and finaly global warming.

    Spend your own money Tim F, produce power on an industrial scale and PROVE it can be done.

    Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2007 02 15 at 05:55 PM • permalink

  35. So four times so far this year Tim Flannery has been documented as railing against the coal industry.

    Yeah, that’s marginalised.

    Just like Antony Loewenstein.

    I have never come across such a pack of whiny nambypambies. The minute you look sideways at them they cry “Oppression! Gaia save me!”

    Dropkicks.

    Posted by Nilknarf Arbed on 2007 02 15 at 05:59 PM • permalink

  36. Look Tim.  Flannery was named Australian of the Year.

    The Dixie Chicks was named Group of the Year by the Grammies.

    And Al Gore will soon be anoited as the receipient of a golden Academy award.

    They’re all beyond reproach!

    Posted by wronwright on 2007 02 15 at 06:18 PM • permalink

  37. I’ve said it before. He’s got the crazed homeless look. All he needs is the sandwich boards with “THE END OF THE WORLD IS NIGH”

    Posted by boxofmatches on 2007 02 15 at 06:32 PM • permalink

  38. There’s a sense of Rudd in all this. He attacks the government viciously, constantly, but pouts and sooks if asked a hard question. Why do the media cop such double standards?

    Posted by boxofmatches on 2007 02 15 at 06:34 PM • permalink

  39. Does the laud mouth fly Lauda airlines?

    Posted by egg_ on 2007 02 15 at 06:40 PM • permalink

  40. “The social licence of coal to operate is rapidly being withdrawn globally”

    Sure, as others have the said, the backroads of China and much of Africa are throwing up diesel power plants as fast as they can build em: the hypocritical UK/EU is a major exporter of such sets to Africa.

    Posted by egg_ on 2007 02 15 at 06:54 PM • permalink

  41. Hands off the man
    He’s the Tim Flann man
    His mind is up his sleeve
    And his talk is make believe
    Oh Lord, the man’s a fraud
    He’s the Tim Flann man
    He’s so cagey
    He’s the one in the trojan horse
    Making out like he’s Santa Claus
    Oh Lord, the man’s a fraud
    He’s the Tim Flann man
    He’s a fox
    Everybody wants him
    The people and the ‘ticians
    Wait for coal-powered superstitions
    Oh, oh, yeah, the beautiful gent
    You know he has hardly a cent*
    He pays his monthly rent
    With the daily charm
    Hands off the man
    The Tim Flann man
    His mind is up his sleeve
    And his talk is make believe
    Oh, Lord, the man’s a fraud
    He’s the Tim Flann man
    He’s an artist
    He’s the Tim Flann man
    He’s so cagey
    He’s the Tim Flann man
    He’s a fox
    Flim flam man.
    Oh, don’t worry
    He’s dishonest, so don’t believe in him
    He’s the Tim Flann man.

    *Re-write that line

    Thanks, Laura.

    Posted by ilibcc on 2007 02 15 at 06:59 PM • permalink

  42. #38

    I just hope that the electorate sees this: when on the attack, the SWAT Womble seems to have an implicit ‘or else’ (my big brother will ...) threat but recoils to the Think Tank bunker at the first sign of a counter-attack.

    The implicit ‘or else’ reeks of a bullying senior public servant nancy.

    Posted by egg_ on 2007 02 15 at 07:01 PM • permalink

  43. At the end of Round 2, the SWAT Womble returns to his corner of the ring.

    His trainer: “s’OK Kevni, you’re doing a great job, Howard’s got a glass jaw: just keep pounding him ... you know how angry you were when you were caught out wearing your mother’s dress to that fancy dress staff party back ‘89?, just keep focussing on that image, maintain the rage ...”

    Posted by egg_ on 2007 02 15 at 07:18 PM • permalink

  44. Flannery wants to be lauded for his one-man business’s export earnings. Maybe when he employs 30,000 people directly and earns enough foreign currency to prop up a whole nation he will get applause. But all we see now is a man who is earning big money and conspicuously spending it on himself. Lots of air travel, hotels with Buick-sized bar fridges and an amazing amount of methane from all that bull shit he spreads.

    Posted by Contrail on 2007 02 15 at 07:36 PM • permalink

  45. According to Wikipedia:-
    Timothy Fridtjof Flannery (born 28 January 1956) is an Australian mammalogist, biologist, writer, Humanist, paleontologist and 2007 Australian of the Year.

    Where does it say he is a qualified Climatologist, Meteorologist, Atmospheric Scientist…. what are this great imposter’s credentials for this self appointed task (to singlehandedly save the planet).

    Posted by Bonmot on 2007 02 15 at 07:39 PM • permalink

  46. #44
    Let’s see if his girth now increases to match that of Gore, Moore, et al ... his apartment suites may need a Greyhound-sized refrigerator in future ...

    Posted by egg_ on 2007 02 15 at 07:42 PM • permalink

  47. Doesn’t Flannery favour wearing a Gaia-raping stockman’s hat on his balding scone?

    Posted by egg_ on 2007 02 15 at 08:12 PM • permalink

  48. If people are pointing out that Flannery is a hysterical doom preacher of over hyped junk science that is hardly a smear, it is more like the truth.  Now, if I was to call him a fucking wanker that does not deserve to be Australian of the year then that would be smearing (and also true).

    Posted by bondo on 2007 02 15 at 08:15 PM • permalink

  49. Slightly OT. But a judge here in Qld has dismissed an attempt by green groups to force a coal mine to reduce GHG emissions. He then when on to rip into the IPCC and the Stern Report.
    Link here

    Don’t know if this is on any of the other enviro threads, there’s so many and I only have so much time to procrastinate at work.

    Posted by AnthonyC on 2007 02 15 at 08:15 PM • permalink

  50. #3 Kyda, you’re missing the tone here. You WILL stop burning coal.

    He is as messianic about his new Jerusalem of the illogically ecologically pure future as Lenin and communists were about theirs.

    Don’t forget, the lefties adopted green after the red failed.

    Posted by Wimpy Canadian on 2007 02 15 at 08:19 PM • permalink

  51. Can someone point out to him that CO2 is not pollution but a necessary, life-giving, component of the atmosphere?

    Posted by Wimpy Canadian on 2007 02 15 at 08:21 PM • permalink

  52. #7 PW You can have Suzuki. We don’t want him in Canada; you can listen to him here.

    On another Canadian front, smalldeadanimals showed this obnoxious video

    Posted by Wimpy Canadian on 2007 02 15 at 08:28 PM • permalink

  53. Wonder if Flanners fumigates the industry money first before buying another cheesecloth shirt.

    Posted by boxofmatches on 2007 02 15 at 08:39 PM • permalink

  54. Hmmmm.

    Fifty years ago Australia rode on the sheep’s back

    That’s quite a ride for that unfortunate sheep.

    I hope Australia was kind enough to give a reach-around.

    lol

    Posted by memomachine on 2007 02 15 at 08:42 PM • permalink

  55. CAN’T STAND THE HEAT

    Then, get off the planet.

    Posted by Dave Surls on 2007 02 15 at 08:47 PM • permalink

  56. 45 Bonmot

    is an Australian mammalogist

    Have you notified 1.618?

    Posted by El Cid on 2007 02 15 at 08:52 PM • permalink

  57. The thing that really pisses me off is that he is fleecing the stupid. That is our role. We’ve been gazumped. Our trademark has been infringed. Beaten by a freakin’ lefty at our own game. I could just kick myself for not thinking of this. I’m tempted to hand in my VRWC membership, retire to the Arctic and live the life of a humble fur trader, mumbling to myself until I leave this mortal coil. For shame, all of us.

    I’m really quite despondent.

    Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 02 15 at 08:56 PM • permalink

  58. Slightly OT:
    PM set to spend $19b on roads

    Hopefully, any pork-barrelling will diametrically oppose the KRudder’s platform ...

    Posted by egg_ on 2007 02 15 at 09:10 PM • permalink

  59. # 17 - Wow, sweet gig: get paid by the very people you are slamming.

    There are plenty of large corporations who suffer corporate Stockholm syndrome, Shell and BP for starters. There would be many large US corporations who’d pay serious dollars to have Flannery encourage and supervise self-flagellation. Good for business - gets them into green investment funds.

    Posted by walterplinge on 2007 02 15 at 09:24 PM • permalink

  60. Selected as one of only 84 Australians to be personally trained by Al Gore to deliver his presentation on climate change, Caroline Pidcock has taken the next step and joined Mrs Phillip Adams’ Climate Change Coalition team.

    Posted by egg_ on 2007 02 15 at 09:28 PM • permalink

  61. #26 - All glory, laud and honor..

    Great attempt, but doesn’t quite scan to St Theodulph (7.6.7.6.D.).

    Posted by walterplinge on 2007 02 15 at 09:29 PM • permalink

  62. Don’t forget, the lefties adopted green after the red failed.

    Watermelons. (And the red didn’t fail, it just wasn’t done right.)

    Asked who was behind the muck-raking, Professor Flannery said: “People who want to keep polluting. To keep the business going. People who won’t face the new reality and their backers, both politically and socially.”

    It is a classic notion on the Left in general, and of environmentalist zealots in particular, that no one can disagree with them unless they are either uninformed or dishonest. Thomas Sowell

    InfidelTiger—Just last night my husband and I were agreeing that they’ve really hit the jackpot this time and lamenting that once again, as usual, we didn’t get in on the ground floor.

    Posted by Kyda Sylvester on 2007 02 15 at 09:32 PM • permalink

  63. #59
    As in BP Solar buying ‘Green cred’ for BP in Oz ...

    A mate with a weekend retreat that is off the grid enquired about solar power from BP and the consultant basically told him that solar wasn’t the best route and tried to sell him a Gen-set and, of course, fuel (their main line of business).

    Posted by egg_ on 2007 02 15 at 09:34 PM • permalink

  64. No qualifications in the field, check.
    Lots of words written but no real action taken, check.
    Makes money of a meme, check.
    Wake me when a real scientist wins Australian of the year for comercialising the zero emission coal power station.

    Posted by ratman on 2007 02 15 at 09:38 PM • permalink

  65. O/T has anyone seen Leunig’s cartoon from Today’s Age? It shows John Howard behind bars. The guy is insane.

    Posted by lingus4 on 2007 02 15 at 09:40 PM • permalink

  66. “” ” :” ”  ‘;  ‘; ” ” ” ‘;’; ‘; ‘; ‘; ” ” ‘;  ‘;’;  ‘;’ ;’ ;’;  : ‘; ’ ; ‘;’;  ‘; ‘; ‘;’; ” : ’ ;’;  ‘;’; ; ’ “‘; ‘;  ’ ’ ’ ‘;  ’” ; ‘; ‘’;  ‘;  ouch: :”” ” ” ” “”  “”” “” ;’ ;’;’‘;’;’;’;’;;’‘;’;’‘;ouch;’;’;’‘;’;’;’;;‘ouch;’;’;’‘;

    “Solar Rays killing the Earth: by 1.618
    For Sale $2,800 765
    Please send the cheque to Tim B, and cut and paste it ta…

    Posted by 1.618 on 2007 02 15 at 09:40 PM • permalink

  67. @#63 ...and of course the economical way to go.

    Posted by Wimpy Canadian on 2007 02 15 at 09:46 PM • permalink

  68. Oh Limit Muslim intake, urges visiting scholar

    http://www.ajn.com.au/news/news.asp?pgID=2564

    BLAH BLAH… QUOTE:‘life will become untenable” unless the Muslim population is kept in check.

    cronulla riots is the start of the clash of civilizations. So funny having token women of Islamic background given pash rash to men who cannot swim and drown. I’m sure discrimination is rampid amongst this new camp of hyphens.

    Posted by 1.618 on 2007 02 15 at 09:49 PM • permalink

  69. I’m over this right wing baloney. All the profits of war seem to go to either Haliburton or PACO Enterprises. We didn’t even get a Christmas bonus in a record year of befoulment??? No respect.

    This green malarkey on the other hand seems to be far more egalitarian, not to mention rewarding. Ka-ching! Time to think of a hook…

    Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 02 15 at 09:50 PM • permalink

  70. #67
    There are Govt subsidies, but even so (esp long term) prolly solar is still the least economical path ...

    Posted by egg_ on 2007 02 15 at 09:53 PM • permalink

  71. Hi wimpy

    Posted by 1.618 on 2007 02 15 at 09:54 PM • permalink

  72. #67 to follow up:

    Electric solar panels are very expensive, not only in spondulics, but in energy to FABRICATE. They still are only useful for really remote things where the cost of refuelling is greater than the cost of panels.

    Thermal solar panels cannot, economically, get the heat of water high enough. The use of this system is in pre-heating water that will then be further heated by coal or some-such; ensuring a small saving.

    The problem with all the eco-friendly energy schemes is that they are based upon collecting energy spread over a large area, be it solar panel farms, windmill farms, fields of corn or a herd of cats.

    There’s nothing like a concentrated source of energy such as coal, oil or uranium….

    ...and I speak as an engineer (damn,.. there goes another part of my secret identity).

    Posted by Wimpy Canadian on 2007 02 15 at 09:54 PM • permalink

  73. #71 Hi sweety

    Posted by Wimpy Canadian on 2007 02 15 at 09:57 PM • permalink

  74. Yay!

    That’s put some step back in my step.

    Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 02 15 at 09:57 PM • permalink

  75. So, I wonder how he feels about windfall profit taxes?

    Posted by Vexorg on 2007 02 15 at 09:57 PM • permalink

  76. Flannery shouldn’t have to justify himself. Once the left adopted the “fake but true” defence they have a licence to say or do anything.  It only remains to wonder why anyone else would bother with them.

    Posted by allan on 2007 02 15 at 09:59 PM • permalink

  77. #74 Yeah, I heard that on the radio, not much info there. Perhaps the Yanks have him on Diago Garcia now. I also cheered up hearing it though :-)

    Posted by Wimpy Canadian on 2007 02 15 at 10:02 PM • permalink

  78. So the ‘$50,000 parasitical doomsayer’ bemoans his name being blackened. Well, in eyes of the normal, non collective thinkers in this world, he and his ilk have long ago done that. The only thing these con artists can do is stooge the stupid, while decrying and in some cases defaming people and corporations out there making an HONEST living. It is typical of his type, the minute they are caught out, they switch to but, ‘I am the victim’. So personally, a modern day ‘tar and feathering’ via technology, is exactly what these flim flam artists deserve.

    Posted by BJM on 2007 02 15 at 10:09 PM • permalink

  79. ‘“So, I’m not supposed to earn a living?’’ Flannery told Crikey.’

    Hey, if can you jump on a jet, fly over to America, and get somone to give you $50,000 to tell them how their cars and airplanes are destroying the world, more power to you.

    As for myself, I’m happy to point out what a fucking hypocrite you are, without charge.

    Posted by Dave Surls on 2007 02 15 at 10:15 PM • permalink

  80. #72
    Preaching to the converted; & same career :)

    As stated in a previous thread, BP Solar Oz are said to no longer make panels in Oz ... a PR exercise for the Sydney 2000 ‘Green’ Olympics, the Athletes Village was ‘the world’s largest solar powered suburb’ ... BP Solar HQ is located at Sydney Olympic Park, but post-Y2K, the rumour is that the panels are now made in Brazil ... begs Brazilian rainforest clearing jibes ...

    Posted by egg_ on 2007 02 15 at 10:19 PM • permalink

  81. #49 interesting

    the exact reverse of the ruling in NSW. I can see a not-too-distant future in which NSW lets its coal industry slowly wither and die while Queensland’s develops. Yet another reason for business not to invest in NSW.

    eventually there’s going to be a High Court ruling on this. If the VRWC is sensible it will arrange for a High Court challenge soon before the current conservative bench retires.

    Notable that the NSW government REFUSED to challenge its own Land & Environment Court decision, thus giving a clear signal to any green-unfriendly industry (and basically, what primary or secondary industry isn’t?)that under Labor, they’re f**ked.

    Posted by JonathanH on 2007 02 15 at 10:23 PM • permalink

  82. #73 Wimpy Canadian (+Dminor if you’re reading this)

    re Dminor’s claim that 1.618 is now the blog nymph

    I have discovered that if you say 1.618 very fast, with a slight lisp, and a mouthful of golfballs, it sounds exactly like:  Rampant sex won’t wait

    coincidence? I think not.

    Posted by JonathanH on 2007 02 15 at 10:26 PM • permalink

  83. The Gore Effect is out of control.

    Posted by SwinishCapitalist on 2007 02 15 at 10:39 PM • permalink

  84. #77 - Gee, I wonder if ABC radio will shunt the report on JWH’s visit to New Zealand in favour of that news.
    Depends on how much they love the sound of a few jeering Kiwis, I suppose.

    Posted by SwinishCapitalist on 2007 02 15 at 10:44 PM • permalink

  85. #81
    The Adams Family’s farm’s nearest major city is getting run down: maybe their proposed 2% coal industry tax could help?

    Posted by egg_ on 2007 02 15 at 10:57 PM • permalink

  86. #83, swinish, so the Gore Effect has gone past the tipping point?

    Posted by Art Vandelay on 2007 02 15 at 11:27 PM • permalink

  87. #61

    Well, one works with the material given. It’s a long way down from “Christ, Son of David, Redeemer King”, to Tim Flim-Flammery.

    Posted by AlburyShifton on 2007 02 15 at 11:31 PM • permalink

  88. #86 - I know this much, Art, 25 degrees and cloudy is not your typical summer’s day in Perth. The man’s an absolute menace!

    Posted by SwinishCapitalist on 2007 02 15 at 11:40 PM • permalink

  89. Enough of this annoying one man industry, there is a one (wo)man industry, despite enjoying tremendous success, is about to have a lot less Bingle.

    It’s a crime!

    Posted by entropy on 2007 02 16 at 12:02 AM • permalink

  90. SwinishCapitalist

    The man’s an absolute menace!

    Agree my friend.

    BTW, if by some chance, this son-of-a-bitch, asshole Al is ever elected President of the U.S. unlike these prissy fakey movie ass hats, who did say that if Bush were ever elected, they’d leave the country, I will, if the “menace” makes it.

    So, after the U.S. election in ‘08 and al-Gore is in, (and I’m still alive, one never knows) I’m out.

    I’ll email ya, to see if you can help me land me a job sweeping floors, or something.

    Just finished a Bombay martini, with olives stuffed with jalapeño peppers. Talk about a kicked up martini, Jesus. In fact, think I’ll have another. And that shall end my evening.

    Hope all is well with you and yours.

    The Cid

    Posted by El Cid on 2007 02 16 at 12:05 AM • permalink

  91. #89

    Enough of this annoying one man industry, there is a one (wo)man industry, despite enjoying tremendous success, is about to have a lot less Bingle.

    It’s a crime!

    Apparently some bright spark in marketing decided that an Aboriginal chick will have more pull than Bingle. Unless she’s some latter-day Justine Saunders, who in the 70s managed to get her gear off in every TV appearance (but always with artistic, cultural purpose*), I doubt the wisdom of said advertising exec.


    *Forget she ever appeared in Number 96!

    Posted by AlburyShifton on 2007 02 16 at 12:21 AM • permalink

  92. Cid! Good to hear from you!
    Hey, don’t worry - if needs be we’ll find something. Would you consider becoming Opposition leader in Canberra? I know you’re partial to John Howard, but frankly, the last few men in the job just haven’t been up to it. We all need a little sparring practice now and then to keep us on our toes - and you wouldn’t be the first Member of the House to arrive for work with a martini (or two) under his belt.

    Posted by SwinishCapitalist on 2007 02 16 at 12:22 AM • permalink

  93. Hey, Flannery !

    Go laud yourself.

    Posted by guinsPen on 2007 02 16 at 12:25 AM • permalink

  94. “The social licence of coal to operate is rapidly being withdrawn…”

    So you thought you were involved in a legitimate business?  Where’s your ‘social licence’?  What do mean you don’t have one?  Your papers are not in order.  Get on the truck.

    Posted by Big Jim on 2007 02 16 at 01:36 AM • permalink

  95. Hang on!  Won’t this all mean that Tim Flimflammery is being paid by big industry?
    Won’t this mean in these days of gaia-science, that his opinions will no longer be ideologically pure? Sure the Halliburton golf shirts are nice, but has he thought this through?

    Posted by lotocoti on 2007 02 16 at 02:25 AM • permalink

  96. The guy is a tool, but you gotta love capitalism!!!  USD$50,000 for a couple of hours work - sweet!!

    Posted by Razor on 2007 02 16 at 02:42 AM • permalink

  97. #56 El Cid
    Great movie BTW - apart from the headlights on the freeway in the background in the night scenes, and there’s a hilarious scene where a dummy gets thrown off a water tower and the straw suit explodes on impact. And the watches on the soldiers, “Heyyyyyy, continuity, get those fucking watches off the extras!”.

    I digress. No I have not notified 1.618. She of the Australian flag on boob 1.618. Is that the 1.618 you mean El Cid or do you mean another 1.618?

    Posted by Bonmot on 2007 02 16 at 03:42 AM • permalink

  98. People who want to keep polluting. To keep the business going.

    On behalf of business/es, were it not for business and/or pleasure, I could see no other cause worthy of pollution.


    People who won’t face the new reality

    Groovy man… I remember my first deep thought.

    Posted by Thomas on 2007 02 16 at 04:15 AM • permalink

  99. Wimpy Canadian, JonathanH and El Cid. I don’t want to be a wet blanket but i can’t get out of my head the idea that our whymsical 1.618 in reality probably resembles Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons.

    Happy to be disabused of this notion 1.618. Can I call you 1 for short?

    Posted by Francis H on 2007 02 16 at 04:40 AM • permalink

  100. #99 Francis H.

    We don’t want to hear about it, thank you. A nymphoid 1.618 has such delightful truthiness twould be a shame to ruin it.

    And J-H #82: LOL!

    Now, what was the topic of this thread again? Oh, that’s right: Flannery. Bummer.

    Posted by Dminor on 2007 02 16 at 05:10 AM • permalink

  101. Ok guys.

    Don’t say i didn’t warn you.

    (shrugs and pours another cognac)

    Posted by Francis H on 2007 02 16 at 06:06 AM • permalink

  102. My thoughts exactly Francis.  That or Margo.

    Posted by wronwright on 2007 02 16 at 06:44 AM • permalink

  103. You don’t mean 1.618 looks more like 3.141592653589793238462643383279502884197169399375105820974944592?
    Oh my God!

    Posted by blogstrop on 2007 02 16 at 07:14 AM • permalink

  104. As a committed capitalist I am starting to love this guy - he may be a greenie (at least in theory) but he is most definitely a rich, highly successful, snob with boundless self-regard. Can I hire him as for personal coaching?!

    Posted by mark on 2007 02 16 at 07:37 AM • permalink

  105. What is it that turns wealthy Westerners into rabid social regressives? You’d think they’d take a little bit of notice of the former commies that are implementing completely the opposite policies.

    The net result of the policies of these born again Luddites will be to send us back to a time when our environmental footprint was much larger than it is now.

    When the Soviet Union fell people at the time were appalled at the environmental destruction that had been wrought within its realm. Comments at the time were along the lines of pollution being “a thousand times worse” than in the West. Our history is our future.

    Posted by Jack Lacton on 2007 02 16 at 07:51 AM • permalink

  106. Blogstrop I think any irrational number will do.

    Posted by Francis H on 2007 02 16 at 08:00 AM • permalink

  107. 1.618, god bless her, is not a nymph, but is in fact a rabbit. Together with her buck they constitute one pair of rabbits. In a month they are still one pair, but they then mate and produce another pair by the end of the second month. There are now two pairs. 1.618 reproduces a pair again and after 3 months there are 3 pairs. After 4 months 1.618 and has produced another pair and her first daughter has now produced a pair - making 5 pairs of rabbits. And so on month after month.

    The monthly sequence is 1,1,2,3,5,8,13,21,34,55,89, ....etc

    You might note that 89/55 = 1.618…
    It’s also as near as dammit to the ratio of the length of your credit card to it’s width.

    I hope this explains things.

    Posted by Whale Spinor on 2007 02 16 at 08:08 AM • permalink

  108. Sorry about the apostrophe in the last it’s

    Posted by Whale Spinor on 2007 02 16 at 08:17 AM • permalink

  109. I never objected to anyone making an honest living.

    Posted by moptop on 2007 02 16 at 08:26 AM • permalink

  110. I seem to remember “Our Man Flint” having an evil scientist doctor wanting to control the weather…James Coburn despatched him with extreme prejudice and camp humour.

    Posted by Srekwah on 2007 02 16 at 08:34 AM • permalink

  111. #107 Ah, the ol’ Fabinocci series and the golden mean. I shoulda known.

    Posted by Wimpy Canadian on 2007 02 16 at 09:03 AM • permalink

  112. Oh my. Well, I shall attempt replies to all.

    Swinish. I chastised the Venezuelans, who are now fleeing the country for not staying and “fighting for the return of their country”. Thats why, I mentioned “if I’m alive”.

    As to Canberra. Being a huge fan of Yogi Berra, of course I’d consider Canberra..
    ————-

    Bonmot. The headlights. You mean 1.618 was on the set? Yes I speak of Tim Tam’s 1.618.

    To the rest. I bitched after seeing such gaffes but was told, nothing Moor could be done.
    ————-

    Francis H. You and wronwright, the owner and president of WW Roofing, Inc. seems to agree with you. He and you just may be correct, but agreeing with Dminor, perish the thought.
    ————-

    blogstrop. You mean 1.618, is Pi? Let us suppose that 1.618 has say…a singing talent and has glorious range of voice, would she then be an octave Pi?
    ————-

    Whale Spinor. Yes indeed, this explains, but having had not an additional martini, but two additional, I have a headache.

    To anyone I missed, if I did, I apologize.

    Posted by El Cid on 2007 02 16 at 10:04 AM • permalink

  113. Unfortunately, I think they stopped reading the thread, but I took some alarmist to task here.

    Posted by aaron_ on 2007 02 16 at 11:14 AM • permalink

  114. Unfortunately, I also wasn’t able to find some of my best material on the net,  I should have saved the links.

    Posted by aaron_ on 2007 02 16 at 11:19 AM • permalink

  115. “So, I’m not supposed to earn a living?’’ Flannery told Crikey.

    No Tim, you’re not.

    Posted by ThinAndBritish on 2007 02 16 at 12:07 PM • permalink

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