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CAR BURNINGS ARE DOWN, HOWEVER
How many French cops have been wounded this year in conflicts with housing estate youths?
100?
500?
1000?
Try nearly 2500.
Sounds like a quagmire to me.
/moonbat shrieks
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2006 10 05 at 02:37 PM • permalinkHow many French cops have been wounded this year in conflicts with housing estate youths?
c’est la vie…OR when MentalFloss is here he can translate that to, Islam-speak.
They have a potential Rudy Giuliani type, in Nicolas Sarkozy. This will show what Sarkosy, is made of.
Go get ‘em Nicolas. Remember, it’s “the broken window” theory.
Hmmm.
Monsieur Guillotine is always welcome in the Republic!
All joking aside it’ll be curious to see how things work out when the French citizenry get pissed off enough to act on their own. The French have a fairly long tradition of overthrowing governments that don’t follow the wishes of the people.
Posted by memomachine on 2006 10 05 at 03:07 PM • permalink“How many French cops have been wounded this year in conflicts with housing estate youths?”
“Try nearly 2500.”
And, they haven’t surrendered yet?
That’s gotta be some kind of record.
Posted by Dave Surls on 2006 10 05 at 03:39 PM • permalinkYou guys better stop smirking. What happens when the Phrogs all move to Quebec? Hmmmm? Right there on our border, eating goose entrails and sneering and throwing burning Citroens in the Great Lakes? Then what are you gonna do?
Posted by Gary from Jersey on 2006 10 05 at 04:19 PM • permalinkThen what are you gonna do?
I will stand on the south side of the border and shout:
“Your mother was a hamster, and your father smelled of elderberry wine!”
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2006 10 05 at 04:53 PM • permalinkMr Demarcq said that the increased attacks on officers were proof that the policy of “retaking territory” from criminal gangs was working.
Sooooooooooo French. They said the same in WWII when they were retreating. “We’re retaking French territory. Viva La Francaise”.
They’ve been repeating the same slime since.Well put Tim, as usual.
Yes we are continually told by Villepin and Chirac that this is “No probleme”.Imagine John Howard saying “no problem” if 2500 AUSSIE police got wounded by muslims from the Sydney and Melbourne enclaves?
And how long before the Sorbonne profs tell their classes that in the same way that Jews were given the land of Israel,(whilst still shouting for its destruction) muslims must be allowed their enclaves within Eurabia?
Is’nt that straight out of the multicult manual.
The degenerate nihilism from the progressives now touches and attempts to destroy every element of European civilisation.
Why should the French expect police, soldiers or even politicians to defend them when french society itself demonizes them at every opportunity when they engage in our defence.
Wait for the crowds of “We are Hesbollah” lobotomised marxist degenerates sprouted from French Universities who will attack the police in solidarity with their muslim brethren when the Police attempt to restore law and order in those suburbs.I’m trying to imagine how many “youths” would be left if 2500 American cops were wounded…
Posted by richard mcenroe on 2006 10 05 at 06:48 PM • permalink‘iowahawk’ once upon a time wrote a satire in which france was conquered by a U.S. high-school marching band visiting for the summer. angered by the constant gallic sneers about “why do you silly americans shower so much? it only dilutes the body’s natural oils”, the band kids snapped and went on a rampage. (although, it must be admitted, they did have the cheerleaders helping them.) it ended with the kids naming their newly-conquered country “france, junior”.
and now this.
ah, well. (gallic shrug) i guess the french think that, in the end, it doesn’t matter whose boots you lick, so long as your pension is secure. germans, ‘youths’, conroe high school…they all speak french poorly, and can thus be thought less of. trevanian once wrote of french pride as “the egoism of the ant climbing the cow’s leg, all the while assuring her he will be gentle”.
Posted by jimmy quest on 2006 10 05 at 06:56 PM • permalinkSpiny and davo peg it.
I’m never one to cut the French any slack. But when it comes to law enforcement professionals, the gendarmes dilema is common throughout the West.
Faced with a career-destroying charge of racism or brutality, the ensuing media circus, the routine failure of superiors to back up those in the field and the possibility of legal action, cops may decline to act in instances where, otherwise, we would expect the to act.
Our thanks, once again, to those who’ve been insisting for decades that the ‘pigs’ are just part of the ‘oppressive’ ‘system.’
Unfortunately, it’s never their neighborhoods that get the torch first.
There’s only one way to get rid of Middle Eastern youth crime. And that is to change newspapers.
The Australian:
A GANG of robbers has held up two men at gunpoint before stealing their car in Sydney’s west.
The pair were approached by five young men of Middle Eastern appearance after parking outside a cinema on Parramatta Road in Auburn about 8.20pm yesterday, police said.
The Sydney Morning Herald:
A gang of robbers has held up two men at gunpoint before stealing their car in Sydney’s west.
The pair were approached by five young men after parking outside a cinema on Parramatta Road in Auburn about 8.20pm yesterday, police said.
I’m convinced the Herald is youthist.
“unemployed youths of north African origin.”
Very sad indeed, for both the French and the Africans.Also UK bbc article….
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/5410472.stm
Jack Straw, the ex-foreign secretary, has angered Muslim groups by suggesting women who wear veils can make relations between communities more difficult.
BRITAIN IS NOW A PSYCHOLOGICAL ISLAMIC STATE NOW…....BY FORCE OF THE CULTURE.Oh, check out find the different styles of scarves.. What the?? Check out the Shalyaor the niqab, it’ll be great for my golf days..,.
Has this paper gone crazy has the whole of Islamic Britain lost it’s balls? Once again the lefties, use the “repsect” however, no respect at all is shown to the Brits.The most amazing thing is that a mainstream newspaper used the words “radical muslims” and “intifada”. I thought the riots were philosophy majors protesting that someone had flushed a copy of Descartes down the latrine. Live and learn I suppose.
Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2006 10 05 at 08:40 PM • permalinkThis culture hosts itself on the west but what it fails to understand is it will be downfall of everything.
It’s a cross cultural bi-product which the western women did long ago, now it’s re-introduced and is confusing women from the west. This is not fair, on school education women’s western rights etc….
These lamb imans are shop fronts for disaster and are creating delusional knowledge in an already deluded population.
LIve and learn by television but not infect your country by the multicultural experiment.
Imagine Japan taking 10000000 islamic africans within their country, what would happen? Well, hopefully no whales would get hurt but it would introduce other things like halal.. etc, which only serves that culture not the whole culture…
The mayor of Les Mureaux, Francois Garay, criticised aggressive police tactics that afterwards left “the people on the ground to pick up the pieces”.
Ok, so the leftoid mayor of a collectivist society complains about aggressive police tactics. Pretty sweet to be a cop in France I guess.
Usually the Police are beating the snot out of the minority protesters with the majority clapping hands on the the sidelines (The African model).
In more civilized countries, the rioters are ‘contained’ and the rioters are presented with overwhelming force to moderate their behavior (the Western model).
...or machinegunned. (the Asian model)
You know, I read history and remember only one situation close to this one, where the police let the minority run wild to the point where no one was safe. German political strife in the 20s and 30s. I don’t believe this level of ‘youth’ violence is put up with in any other society in the world…including the ME.
This is not a popular uprising. This is insanity.
Shall we start a pool over when Europe snaps and goes into it’s typical over-reaction mode…third time would be the charm, ya know. Put me down for the summer of 2008.
Oh, and please keep the Diggers home this time…we ain’t goin’ either.
For example, I can confirm this ideology has infiltrate Australian way.. good story..
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,20533224-601,00.html
“Chairman Mao” type ideologies in a speech to the History Teachers Association of Australia today.
Wow, that’s amazing. Only 223 less than the number of US deaths in Iraq confirmed by the DoD.
Posted by Miranda Divide on 2006 10 05 at 08:54 PM • permalinkMr Demarcq said that the increased attacks on officers were proof that the policy of “retaking territory” from criminal gangs was working.
Does this statement make sense to anybody other than a frenchman ?
Posted by Rachel Corrie's Flatmate on 2006 10 05 at 09:24 PM • permalinkShall we start a pool over when Europe snaps and goes into it’s typical over-reaction mode.
Okay, I bet the bank that Europe does no such thing. Europe is done. It’s too old(and getting older), to weak, and too cowardly.
I was listening to a report on BBC’s The World the other day, about towns across Europe adopting some sort of regulation that limited working practices so that they essentially favored the native ones as opposed to international ones( I’ll find the link if I can). They interviewed some Spanish Johnny-on-the-spot and he said something to the effect of ‘It’s great because it allows us to maintain our culture in the face of all this immigration’. Now my first thought is, ‘yeah thats great. Won’t help you in a 100 years. TRY HAVING SOME FUCKING KIDS!’ :)
If Europe can’t do the most fundamental of things to maintain itself, like have kids and uphold basic European rights won throughout the centuries, it sure as hell isn’t going to snap over anything. It’s going to lay down and die.
#39, thanks a heap, Detective Paco. Now I have this image of some woman in a black burqa who leaned up against a lamp post just freshly painted (white, naturally), and your man spending the rest of his time in Paris trying to woo her.
Perhaps the French would have better luck with this man?
#35-36
Trying to place myself in the shoes of the mayor doesn’t help me. I cannot see how the mayor can side with a rioting minority which sees his social system as an anathema, and which rejects even the most basic premise of French society: Liberty, Equality, Fraternity (even if they are only lip service to socialists). I assume he was elected - and therefor has a responsibility to ensure the safety of all his constituents…including the ‘yoots’ and the police.
We can see that the multicultural model is not working in Europe - if the ‘other’ is isolated and not encouraged to assimilate, they won’t.
So, what is the end game? How long can this go on, and how bad can it get? Is France going to allow this level of friction forever? It’s PC run amok.
I don’t think so. The French elections are going to be interesting. Europe is always ahead of the curve when it comes to troubling times - we’d be wise to watch them very carefully.
Right, Cornelius, apart from the language.
I drove through many small rural French towns that looked deserted and dying.
The French have never understood decentralisation, so like Old Rome, they have drawn their people into their big centres [despite their chauvinist agricultural policy] and then invited the barbarians in to share the same space.
Napoleon plus socialism isn’t a good look.I don’t know how many times I have to say this but it seems self-evident to me, MUSLIMS CAN’T FIGHT.
The situation in Eurabia will continue to degenerate until the Muslims have the numbers to collapse the rule of law, either by bankrupting the economy or creating a situation of open civil war. Then the Europeans will genocidayl annihilate them, like they have a hundred times in the past to disorganized barbarian rabble all over the planet, from the time of the Romans on.
All this “they’re too old and tired” is bullshit. The military, paramilitaries and police that have formed the backbone of murderous death squads in every ethnic civil war in modern history are never too tired to be let off the leash and finally do what they’ve been dreaming of for decades. A long period of friction and trouble has lead up to every modern genocidal outbreak, and the one brewing in Europe is no different. Personally I give it about 25 to 30 years, time for two more illiterate, hate-filled, unemployable muslim generations to swarm onto the scene, then the stage will be set.
Muslims can’t fight. Even if they outnumber the Euros by 2 to one, which they won’t, they’d be wiped out. They have no unified command, no industrial base, no uniform military training, nothing. The Americans lost 18 rangers and Delta Force guys in Mogadishu, they killed 800 Somalis. Disorganized savages get destroyed when they go up against organized societies. Period.
And yes, that even counts for the French.
Housekeeper: You’ve ruined that piano!
Clouseau: What is the price of one piano, compared to the terrible crime that has been committed here
Housekeeper: But that’s a priceless Steinway!
Clouseau: Nyot Anymeur.
—————
François: Do you know what kind of a bomb it was?
Clouseau: Yes, the exploding kind
—————
Madame, that is by far the ugliest nose I have ever seen and I compliment you on it, it suits you!Rotflmao…
Does anyone find it bizarre that there is MORE than one police union, and that it membership appears to be linked to one’s ideological position?
That’s creeepy, in my books.
Anyway, all those youths - whatever happened to the land of Catherine Di Medici and her handling of Les Hugenots?
Posted by Apparatchik on 2006 10 05 at 11:49 PM • permalink“And yes, that even counts for the French.”
Correct, because at some point they are going to call in the Legion, the best unit in the French Army (because they are by and large not French), and have a history of kicking recalcitrant colonial asses, (and truth be said, getting kicked themselves when French political will gave out).
Posted by Vanguard of the Commentariat on 2006 10 05 at 11:53 PM • permalinkHaving lived in Europe for 30 years, i can assure you that the will to fight back, to stand up for ‘liberte, equalite etc’ is way, way off.
However, this guy
may become mayor of Antwerp (it’s in Belgium) on Sunday.
His main policies are
i) stop benefits for jobless immigrants and
ii) refuse to recognise Islam as an official religionPosted by pommygranate on 2006 10 06 at 12:16 AM • permalink#18 À mon avis, la borne routière très menaçante n’a pas encore été atteinte.
“borne routière menaçante” is the translation you seek.
Posted by MentalFloss on 2006 10 06 at 01:18 AM • permalinkOh yeah, and El Cid, here’s yours:
مثل هذا حياة
But remember,
يتلقّى كلّ كلب يومه
Posted by MentalFloss on 2006 10 06 at 01:21 AM • permalink#32 putting de cart before de horse again, eh?
Posted by MentalFloss on 2006 10 06 at 01:53 AM • permalinkMy ex-flatmate told me the story once of how he had to flee Paris after he took a happy snap of a French anti-riot policeman breaking the jaw of a protestor with a club. He reckoned it was a superb action shot - the blood and teeth were flying and it made the front page but he had to evacuate fast - they did have a nasty reputation back then. Ransacked his flat of course but not him.
Je n’ai pas besoin d’un dictionnaire pour vous indiquer que vous devriez fermer votre bouche.
Posted by MentalFloss on 2006 10 06 at 02:07 AM • permalink#27
This is surprising. Beleive it or not, the French cops had a legendary reputation in the sixties and seventies for being ruthless on rioters. The British leftists were terrified to cross the Channel for that reason.
Looks like they’ve been girlified over the last two decades
Have they? Or is the violence on the other side like nothing they’ve ever seen.
#71 - yes, thanks, it is curious. Some people have a very short wick (take that as you like) and instantly snarl if they perceive the slightest challenge to their fragile egos.
Bit sad really. Especially when one has to flaunt one’s grasp of French in such an agressive manner.
Obviously my name bon mot meaning witty remark in his beloved Froggy escaped him.
Me? Sensitive? Never.
I addressed you in French with a bit of bite for fun and because, as you point out, you choose to present yourself here as “Bonmot”.
Nothing “escapes me”.
And, Barrie, you can well and truly kiss my ass if you object to a little French in a thread about the French.
Supercilious git.
Posted by MentalFloss on 2006 10 06 at 07:11 AM • permalinkAnyone read John Stone’s article entitled
“The Muslim problem and what to do about it”
in the September edition of Quadrant?It should be compulsory reading for all Australians who don’t want this country to turn into a complete shit heap in 100 years time.
Hey mental floss can you translate this into latin ?
Islam -
cornered by reason
responding with violenceTo my mind it really seems to sum up the situation. I’d love to stick it on a t shirt but if it was in English I fear that the semi - literate imbeciles would understand it and hasten to add further proof to the statement.
No car should be driven in reverse at more than say 30km/h as they are just too unstable when the wheels that do the steering are at the wrong end of the car.
You get lots of injured people when you fit a police car with a gearbox with 5 reverse gears.
“Look, muslim rioters. Flee! Flee!”.
Crash.
Posted by mr creosote on 2006 10 06 at 07:56 AM • permalinkWhere is Charles Martel when you need him!
Just when the Franks need “The Hammer” once again, they turn into hammers themselves, and I mean that in the derogatory sense of the word.
Posted by Fragglerocker on 2006 10 06 at 08:44 AM • permalinkI’m with MentalFloss !!
Why? Dunno really. I gave up on that language when I very nearly failed the High School Junior Public Examination on it in 1969. Too many “oooo” noices for my liking in a foreign language. Fucking French pricks. I have never liked them.
I guess I’m on his side because it kinda feels safer. I have an instinct for this sort of thing.
77 paco
Ah, mes amis, come, let us do the reasonings together! Let us not be, how do you say, with the daggers drawn. Monsieur Floss is an erudite homme from whom we can all learn much, in any language. And the bon mots of, er, Bonmot are renowned for their attrait. Come, let us have a glass together.
Absolutely correct. With the group in residence here, we shouldn’t have bleu on bleu, le feu.
My glass is raised and if need be, we will raise it for the ruffled…salut!
O/T, but Little Green Footballs has some photos of that “massive” World Can’t Wait Protest that shook the Republic to its foundations yesterday. Interesting gallery of lower primates.
I’m trying to imagine how many “youths” would be left if 2500 American cops were wounded…
Well Richard, I do know how the cops in America react to a cop-killer that refuses to surrender:
Accused of killing deputy, suspect shot 68 times.
To quote the Polk County Sherrif:
“That’s all the bullets we had, or we would have shot him more,”
Posted by David Crawford on 2006 10 06 at 02:24 PM • permalink“That’s all the bullets we had, or we would have shot him more,”
What? They didn’t head back to the car for reloads?
Posted by Rob Crawford on 2006 10 06 at 02:54 PM • permalinkIt occurs to me that reading the comments on this blog would sometimes lead one to think that America is still mired in the Wild Wild West. Including comments of mine.
It isn’t. No country could operate as efficiently as the US does with blood in the streets. And an armed society is tres poli, nes pas.
It’s just, hmmm, we sort of expect our cops to do their jobs, and if they have to pop a cap on the occasional dirtbag we don’t really mind. Just the appearance of overwhelming police force has stopped many a riot in it’s tracks.
What you don’t hear about on this forum is the outrage when they screw up or crack up…as cops tend to do. It is a very difficult line we walk to allow police to do their jobs without overdoing their jobs.
It helps that mostly by the time the cops get there, the dirtbag is room temperature.
Willow76, my Wheelock Latin Grammar (every one should have one) is about four up and three boxes back, but most of what you’ve typed consists of Latin roots (except, obviously “Islam”).
I might make a few changes for effect, and because Latin lends itself to a more portenteous turn of phrase while adhering to “multum in parvo”, i.e. (lit.) “much in little”, ‘less is more’, ‘keep it simple, stupid’; etc.:
“Trap a Muslim with reason, expect violence”
Laqueus Muslimaea per ratio quod specto vis
Cicero I ain’t, but I’d be inclined to replace “vis” with “extorqueum”, which has the extra connotation of violence as extortion. Also, because word order is meaningless in Latin, and one can do away with prepostions and such because of inflection in the nouns and verbs; I might phrase it so:Per ratio irretitus
Muslimaea quoniam (becomes) vehemensor
Muslimaea teneo tantum (knows only) extorqueo
A bit lame, but it’s early morning and I’m still a bit fuzzy.Posted by MentalFloss on 2006 10 06 at 06:23 PM • permalinkOh, and I’ve no boeuf with bonmot. A little back and forth is fun.
Barrie, on the other hand, well…as the Frenchman said after a hearty breakfast: “an oeuf is an oeuf”.
Two years into a double major History/Latin and my Latin teacher dies of bone cancer, the university cancels the entire Latin program and I’m stuck with quickly finding a two-year accelerated course to replace it.
Voila! French.
(and I really do appreciate those who put up with me here, I’m not trying to show off, its just that Tim’s site has been a G-dsend for me. Twenty years in real-time control systems technology leaves little to satisfy the intellect. Thanks, Tim.)
Posted by MentalFloss on 2006 10 06 at 06:40 PM • permalink#49, Amos:
I agree fully. That is the primary reason I keep hollering for full total war against islam now. The longer this problem is allowed to sit and stew with half assed and “softly softly” measures, the closer we’ll come to genocide being the only answer left.
I’d rather see the arab/muslim completely defeated and islam removed as a motivator to belligerence, rather than have the arab/muslim simply cease to exist as a people.
ubetcha, geoff—more enemies I don’t need!
Posted by MentalFloss on 2006 10 06 at 08:09 PM • permalink(and I really do appreciate those who put up with me here, I’m not trying to show off, its just that Tim’s site has been a G-dsend for me. Twenty years in real-time control systems technology leaves little to satisfy the intellect.
I don’t think you show off. You really truly have substance. And gravitas. I, for one, am fascinated by your considerable knowledge of Ancient History. I look for your comments and those of many others here including paco (funny and clever), Rebecca (sweet), MarkL (brazen), Andrea (straight and unvarnished), and many many others. As much as I enjoy Tim Blair’s humor and insight, I wouldn’t come here if it wasn’t for the commenters.
I especially say that with respect to Richard McEnroe. Yes I recall you were listed at the top of the list of the members who have posted the most comments. And it seems after that list was posted, your contributions went down considerably, possibly due to your thinking that maybe you’re posting too often. I can say uncategorically that’s not true. Your comments are excellent, humorous, and insightful, although at times a bit abusive towards the lower ranking members here. * cough * Please continue giving us those edgy comments that I so much enjoy.
Posted by wronwright on 2006 10 06 at 08:43 PM • permalink#93 wronwright
I especially say that with respect to Richard McEnroe. Yes I recall you were listed at the top of the list of the members who have posted the most comments. And it seems after that list was posted, your contributions went down considerably, possibly due to your thinking that maybe you’re posting too often. I can say uncategorically that’s not true. Your comments are excellent, humorous, and insightful…
Amen.
And may I say you too, good sir.
BTW has anybody heard from Texas Bob? He’s starting to worry me.
#93: Frankly, wron, since this is rapidly turning into old home week, and we’re passing the bottle around and getting a bit sappy, I might as well ask why you have reduced your comment pace? One of the things that immediately attracted me to this site, in addition to Tim’s posts, was the wonderfully imaginative, Rovian cyber-world behind which you seemed to be the moving spirit. Now, you don’t write, you don’t call; what the heck are you up to, buster?
The official reason paco? Work. I’m a tax attorney and I’m enmeshed in a very nasty audit. As it is, I gave up reading Glenn Reynolds’ blog (which I miss) and Tim Dunlop’s (which I don’t). The only thing that keeps my sanity is sipping Sumerian mead and reading a good detective novella.
(sotto voce)
Unofficially? I’ve been chasing down Stoop Davy Dave. Goat boy took Karl’s favorite satchel (Komono dragon hide, white rhino horn handle, gold inlaid, very nice), stuffed some oats and alfafa in it, and absonded with TARDIS II. How do I know that? I have him on the security camera, baa baa’ing, bobbing his head in joy, and grabbing the satchel in his teeth. He also left a great big turd on Karl’s floor, which I had to clean up wouldn’t ya know.
Well Karl ain’t happy. Here, let me say that again. Karl. Is. Not. Happy.
So I’m left with the back up TARDIS scouring the time periods looking for goatboy. How do I expect to find him in eons of history? Well, I ain’t stupid. I’ve been at the library scouring the history books for any tales, real or mythological, that deals with a talking goat or goat-man.
Do you know how many tales of goat-men there are? Dozens. Bacchus. Dionysisus. Lucifer, for crying out loud. And then there’s other mythological beings that are half man, half animal. The Minotaur. Centaur. The birdmen of Gor. On and on. I have to check them all out. And mostly they’re not paco. But they’re real live beasts. With fangs. And claws. Some of them have snakes in their hair. And they’re all hungry!
But Karl wants his satchel. And that means I got to get that damn infernal satchel back. So ...
I’m off to 3000 BC China. I have to check out a tale about a talking goat that supposedly ate out of Confuscius’ rice bowl, said BAAAAA, and shitted on the emperor’s saffron silk carpet.
Posted by wronwright on 2006 10 06 at 10:40 PM • permalinkBirdmen of GOR???
Oh great W2, now you’re gonna have the feminists down on us!
psst, I missed that one, can you lend me a copy?
Posted by Vanguard of the Commentariat on 2006 10 06 at 11:23 PM • permalink# 103 ...and blogstrop gloves one neatly on the up and off go the bails…it’ll be a long walk back to the pavillion for the 12th man…out of his crease, barely troubled the scorers and he’s gone…maaahhvellous…
#101 Over here, garkon. And a fine drop it is, too, that is served in good humour and quaffed in fellowship.
# 98 Lint? Only recently were you held in high esteem and already The Tweed needs another cleaning?
(...now I can’t get the picture of having a feminist down on me out of my head. Thanks, Van.)
Posted by MentalFloss on 2006 10 07 at 12:47 AM • permalink#109 I didn’t even see Miranda. Must look in dark corners and see what’s skulking, I guess.
Posted by Nilknarf Arbed on 2006 10 07 at 01:25 AM • permalinkAnd in jolly old England the local Muslimes are calling the shots. http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2006460631,00.html
#30 Infidel Tiger
I thought the riots were philosophy majors protesting that someone had flushed a copy of Descartes down the latrine. Live and learn I suppose.
LOL. :-)
I also think jokes like that are great for another reason. Humour is a very effective way of revealing double-standards and hypocrisy. It’s amazing the number of modern, trendy Western sophisticates who seem to think that people rioting over a Koran dropped in a gutter is legitimate, yet would be appalled if other groups tried the same excuse.
That Quadrant article by John Stone is great.
Thanks Willow76 (@ #75) for mentioning it, and Dan Lewis (@ #94) for linking it.
It’s rare to see that much straight-talkin’, infliching common-sense in a single article.
I recommend it to anyone who hasn’t already followed the link. (it is reasonably lengthy though).
Thanks Dave S. I’m humbled to know that for you the best bit was where i was ignored. Says a lot mate and I really appreaciate it. Peace.
Posted by Miranda Divide on 2006 10 07 at 08:44 AM • permalink#104 WronWright
You may have been slightly distracted, you should have checked out “Tarnsmen of GOR”; one-ring and all that.
Cheers
Posted by J.M. Heinrichs on 2006 10 07 at 01:30 PM • permalinkUshie:
You shouldn’t read reviews composed by males of exquisite sensibility and circumscribed masculinity. You might find a less subjective account here.Cheers
Posted by J.M. Heinrichs on 2006 10 07 at 03:14 PM • permalink#125 Ushie: I haven’t read Ellroy’s novel, but I have read The Black Dahlia Avenger, by Steve Hodel, a non-fiction investigation by a genuine former police officer whose conclusion concerning the guilty person is jaw-droppingly stunning (and brilliantly argued). Do get hold of it and read it; if it isn’t one of the most fscinating things you ever read, I’ll eat my hat (your choice of fur felt fedora or panama).
Thanks Dave S. I’m humbled to know that for you the best bit was where i was ignored. Says a lot mate and I really appreaciate it. Peace.
Miranda, the best bit for me (so far as you are concerned) EVER is this, thanks to the legendary Sortelli.
Especially with your little rant at the end of that long closed thread….which merely underscores the entire point of that short story, then and now.
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2006 10 07 at 09:51 PM • permalinkThanks “Real” Geoff, that was unreal. Great days huh? I remember with great fondness derailling post after post with the truth, showing up a fallacious argument here, destroying the comraderie that comes with shared bigotry online with a few carefully crafted words. You may be the blogsheep but I am surely the troll without equals.
Aaah, 2004. When men were men and blogsheep had no need to be nervous, for they had the bloghead, lighting the way, fanning the flames of prejudice, drawing on his little glee club of minions to do the real dirty work. Here boys, go fetch the bigots bone!
There can’t really be a decent buck in this caper. Who’s really backing this noble enterprise?
Posted by Miranda Divide on 2006 10 08 at 05:20 PM • permalinkI remember with great fondness derailling post after post with the truth, showing up a fallacious argument here, destroying the comraderie that comes with shared bigotry online with a few carefully crafted words.
Funny, I remember you dribbling and barking something about “blogmire,” whatever that is supposed to be (Tim and I finally decided that you must be having problems with your drains in whatever hovel you lived in. I understand that those things can be traumatic.)
Posted by Andrea Harris, Administrator on 2006 10 08 at 10:22 PM • permalinkYup. Same old Miranda. Too bad, I’d hoped for some improvement with age…...but this just ain’t sour grapes, it’s bad vinegar.
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2006 10 08 at 10:30 PM • permalink
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If the gendarmes shoot back once, they’ll be crucified by the International Media: even bigger riots will erupt and the police will be saddled with ALL of the blame. Cries of Racisme! will fly from all quarters and the French authorities will be forced to back down, apologise, and pay compensation.
To be honest, I’m certain it is a matter of when, not if.