<< NEWS BRIEFLETS ~ MAIN ~ RING THOSE BELLS >>
CLINTON WINS CRUCIAL KOS NON-ENDORSEMENT
Deaf guy and a man with no legs duke it out. In other comical brawling news, Daily Kos dipweed Markos “Margo with Money” Moulitsas rips into Hillary Clinton:
Hillary Clinton has a few problems if she wants to secure the 2008 Democratic presidential nomination. She is a leader who fails to lead. She does not appear “electable.”
Unlike every other candidate backed by Daily Kos.
Moving into 2008, Republicans will be fighting to shake off the legacy of the Bush years: the jobless recovery, the foreign misadventures, the nightmarish fiscal mismanagement, the Katrina mess ...
... the numbingly-recited leftoid talking points ...
Every Democratic contender will be offering change, but activists will be demanding the sort of change that can come only from outside the Beltway.
Yeah. Spare change from George Soros.
Hillary Clinton leads her Democratic rivals in the polls and in fundraising. Unfortunately, however, the New York senator is part of a failed Democratic Party establishment—led by her husband—that enabled the George W. Bush presidency ...
So Clinton is to blame for Bush? Not Fox News or Jed Bush and his cabal of Florida criminals or disenfranchised voters? Interesting.
Of course, it’s still early. At this point in the last presidential cycle, the first hints of Howard Dean’s transformational campaign were barely emerging.
That brief “emerging” phase was quickly following by the much more entertaining “vanishing” phase.
Even as the establishment mocked Dean and his supporters (“like a scene out of the ‘Star Wars’ cantina,” laughed a rival campaign aide), his army of hyper-motivated supporters organized across all 50 states. This movement exploded onto the national scene when Dean began reporting dramatically higher fundraising numbers than his opponents. Had Kerry not lent himself millions to reach the Iowa caucuses, and had Dean not been so green a candidate, Dean probably would have been the nominee.
And how we all wished for that. (cough)George McGovern(cough).
Dean lost, but the point was made.
Point: Morons support weak candidates. Made.
Today, however, Hillary Clinton seems unable to recognize this new reality. She seems ill-equipped to tap into the Net-energized wing of her party (or perhaps is simply uninterested in doing so) and incapable of appealing to this newly mobilized swath of voters. She may be the establishment’s choice, but real power in the party has shifted.
And the new power is ... Daily Kos!
Our crashing of Washington’s gates wasn’t about ideology, it was about pragmatism. Democrats haven’t won more than 50 percent of the vote in a presidential election since 1976. Heck, we haven’t won more than 50.1 percent since 1964.
Forty years on, nothing’s changed.
Those failures led the netroots to support Dean in the last presidential race. We didn’t back him because he was the most “liberal” candidate. In fact, we supported him despite his moderate, pro-gun, pro-balanced-budget record, because he offered the two things we craved most: outsider credentials and leadership.
So much for Dean’s leadership. Kos posters have recently been pitching for Wesley Clark:
There are some who may doubt the General’s motivations, his political savvy, or his ability to play with the big boys of the party. I am not one of those. Not any more. I have seen most of the party leaders of the past few campaigns up close and personal. Met and greeted them, heard them talk live, looked into their eyes, and watched from afar on C-SPAN speech after speech after speech. I’ve seen Clinton, Gore, Kerry, Edwards, and Dean up close and personal - but I’ve never seen anything like Clark! Is he a politician - yes. But he’s an American first, and the things he said today… with the exception of Al Gore’s recent speeches, never before have I seen a politician with the guts to so lay it on the line.
We now return for Moulitsas’ powerful conclusion:
Just as we crazy political junkies glimpsed the viability of the candidacy of an obscure governor from a small New England state three years ago, today we regard Hillary Clinton’s candidacy as anything but inevitable. Her obstacles are big, and from this vantage point, possibly insurmountable.
Based on Kos’s record, bet on Hillary for 2008.
I’ve seen Clinton, Gore, Kerry, Edwards, and Dean up close and personal - but I’ve never seen anything like Clark! Is he a politician - yes. But he’s an American first, and the things he said today… with the exception of Al Gore’s recent speeches, never before have I seen a politician with the guts to so lay it on the line.
What, they mean Al Gore’s <a href=“http://www.planearium2.de/scripts-1006.htm”>“man-bear-pig” speech</a>?
Thank you, Mr. Mackey, students of South Park Elementary.. I’m here to educate you about the single biggest threat to our planet. You see, there is something out there which threatens our very existence and may be the end of the human race as we know it. I’m talking of course about… Manbearpig. It is a creature which roams the earth alone. It is half man, half bear, and half pig. Some people say that Manbearpig isn’t real. Well, I’m here to tell you know, Manbearpig is very real, and he most certainly exists…. But have no fear, because I am here to save you! And someday, when the world is rid of Manbearpig, everyone will say “Thank you, Al Gore. You’re super awesome.” The end.
Wesley Clark is dangerously unstable. We already know this. So it does in fact logically follow that someone who thinks Al Gore’s insane rants “lay it on the line” would also admire Clark.
Posted by Aaron - Freewill on 2006 05 06 at 02:48 PM • permalinkI must admit Hillary will be a very difficult candidate to beat.
1) The MSM will campaign for her 24/7. You thought Rathergate was bad, just wait.2) The Dems have lost their moral problems with fixing elections.
For example see the Washington state 2004 Gov’ election. A Federal judge concluded that 1,678 illegal votes should be subtracted from the total number of votes cast. The margin of victory was 163 votes, total. However, despite the fact that 10 times more votes were invalidated than determined the election, because the Republicans could not clearly and convincingly prove those illegal votes were for the Democrat candidate, the judge did not overturn the election.
There are other cases like this in 2004, including the infamous tire-slashing incident.
Democrats feel safe and secure in rigging elections. The message is clear, even if caught, your candidate gets to stay in power and you get a slap on the wrist.
Kennedy did it to Nixon in 1960 and Hillary (or more accurately her followers) will try to do it to the Republicans in 2008.For the good of the nation, Kos must remain a power in the Democratic Party for years to come.
Posted by richard mcenroe on 2006 05 06 at 03:29 PM • permalinkEvery Democratic contender will be offering change, but activists will be demanding the sort of change that can come only from outside the Beltway.
Ooh! Is Markos going to finally make good on his threat to “take down the Democratic Leadership Council” (aka the Clintons)? Oh please let it be true! It’ll be the best bug-squashing in ages! Gawwwd, I’d love to see that egotistical cockroach drawn and quartered (figuratively speaking) in full view of the public…
Posted by Spiny Norman on 2006 05 06 at 04:19 PM • permalinkGotta give Kos credit for one thing, he continues to beat his gums and his chest as though he were 16-0 instead of 0-16. Although, since his candidate did win a plurality of the vote in the special election to replace Duke “just stick it in a plain brown envelope and put it under the seat of the limo” Cunningham moving her up to the general election run-off, I suppose we should give him a half win. So, until November, he’s ½-16½.
The Dems have lost their moral problems with fixing elections.
I’m not aware Dems ever had a moral problem with fixing elections. They’ve been doing it for decades.
Posted by Kyda Sylvester on 2006 05 06 at 04:48 PM • permalinkThe Dems have lost their moral problems with fixing elections.
I thought the Democrats invented “voting the cemetary”, myself.
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2006 05 06 at 05:11 PM • permalinkDon’t you remember rinardman, they nominated John-boy Kerrey because he was electable. Well that’s what they said, although he ended up somewhat less electable than Dubya was.
Posted by Michael Lonie on 2006 05 06 at 06:35 PM • permalinkSay what?
“While the Republicans spent the last four decades building a vast network of small-dollar donors to fund their operations, Democrats tossed aside their base and fed off million-dollar-plus donations.”
but…but…but!
The yojimbo has saved that one!
Down goes a talking point!
Down goes a talking point!
Down goes a talking point!Can somewhat tell me what the acronym “Kos” signifies? Seriously, I am usualy pretty good at this sort of thing—but I’m stumped.
Posted by MentalFloss on 2006 05 06 at 07:08 PM • permalinkI don’t think Hillary will win the nomination, must less the election. Even people who loved Bill didn’t like her. I would love to see the rank and file Democrats stage a coup, purge the party of its Clintons, Kerrys, Kennedys, and goofy Deans, and come up with a halfway decent candidate, but since this is the real world, it probably won’t happen. But I can’t see them throwing away their chances on Hillary. As much as it nauseates me, I have to agree with the contemptible Kos on this one.
Don’t know for sure, but my guess is it’s from Markos.
Posted by Kyda Sylvester on 2006 05 06 at 07:17 PM • permalinkRebeccaH — If they purge their Kerries, Kennedies, Deans, and Clintons, what do they have left
Kucinich ‘08!
Posted by richard mcenroe on 2006 05 06 at 08:18 PM • permalinkDeaf guy and a man with no legs duke it out.
Sounds like the start of a good joke.
But, it does remind me of a time back in high school. Two fellas were about to square off, over some silly high school guy thing. One of the guys had had polio at a young age, that left one leg shorter than the other. He was cool about it, and we would occasionally give him a little zing about it. Nothing mean, just kidding around.
They were about to start swinging, when one of the guys watching yelled…“Don’t bet on the gimp!”
The fight was called, on account of hysterical laughter! :)
Get this — Wired magazine has dubbed Al Gore and his lemming parade the Neo-Greens.
Posted by richard mcenroe on 2006 05 06 at 10:16 PM • permalinkKos thinks he IS the net, doesn’t he? He thinks his numbers and George Soros make him the net. He’s played with the big boys - looked ‘em in the eye - and their look made him real. He has been validated by the big boys and it is time the rest of the world acknowledged the smoke from the chimney, and just who is really in power. It’s PopeOerDims Kos I, otherwise known as PODKosI. He can only be had in green, however.
P.S. I’m on new meds here. I’m just hoping that I don’t wake up tomorrow and wonder what the hell was going through my head. If you know what I mean. If you don’t, disregard this message.
Whew.
Why when i read that drivel was I suddenly siezed with the urge to find a gourd, then announce my candidacy?
Seriously the whole “looked into his eyes” thing is so close to the lines used by Hitlers henchmen its scary.Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2006 05 06 at 11:05 PM • permalinkTim, great post. Sometimes it’s almost too easy, isn’t it?
Kos kommenter: “never before have I seen a politician with the guts to so lay it on the line.”
Guts laid on the line get walked on. Or something. Great imagery.
Tim wrote, “Based on Kos’s record, bet on Hillary for 2008.”
That’d almost be worth it just to dredge up Kos’s Krazy Kwotes and rub his nose in them.
Wesley Clark? The chap who ordered NATO troops to fire on Russian soldiers at Kosovo Airport?
Yeah, he sounds like a rational chap, the sort we want in the White House.
Posted by Tim Newman on 2006 05 07 at 12:43 AM • permalinkThere’s only one absolutely absymal fact a Shrillary candicacy would bring us—
I’d probably have to vote for McCain.
And so would everyone else.
Well eat-my-own-puke but I’d have to do it.
Please don’t do that, Dems—you might actually win with someone else.
Posted by zeppenwolf on 2006 05 07 at 01:52 AM • permalinkIt has irked me for sometime now the way Moulitsas uses his 3-year peace-time army hitch to legitimize his views on current military situations. He bases his “empowered” position from the viewpoint of a private in the Field Artillery stationed in Oklahoma and Germany. In actuality, he is just another homosexual who lied to get into military service. So the facts are:
He’s gay.
He never saw combat.
He’s a liar.
He’s a writer of lousy songs
He’s a lousy writerPretty much sums up the Daily Kos.
Nuff said?Much of this is a bit distressing for me. In the early 90s or so, I knew Markos pretty well, and he wasn’t like this.
He was a reporter for the daily student newspaper at Northern Illinios University (a pretty good paper, too) and then editor. He was not particularly politically active as I remember it, although he did support a local Puerto Rican activist group (led by another nice guy I knew).
Markos was also a student in one of the classes I taught as a grad instructor. He was interested in my dissertation on small group leadership and my research in lying and deception. He didn’t play up his veteran status much, although he knew I was a vet.
He was pretty intense, but in a good, thoughtful way. Interested in learning about a lot of things.
I don’t know where he went wrong. Maybe law school did it.
Anyway, back then he was called ‘Markuss’ not ‘Markohs’ and the ‘Kos’ was pronounce ‘Kuss’. I understand it is currently pronounced ‘Kohs’—probably an ethnic thing.
He’s very bright, but not as smart as he thinks he is. He also didn’t blink much then, which worried me (as does Wes Clark, who has a blink rate of about 2 per minute), since this is sometimes a physical manifestation of a brain chemistry problem associated with sociopathy. It shows either a high or a low level of a neurotransmitter (I forget now just which) that is implicated in the ability to feel empathy. Maybe that explains it. At low levels this condition leads to what we usually call ‘manipulators’ and perhaps driven upper level executives. Properly used it is probably a good thing. Improperly used or at too high a level and you get Ted Bundy.
At least all Markos wants to do is destroy conservatives in the electoral sense. I think I’ll keep an eye on him just the same.
Posted by JorgXMcKie on 2006 05 07 at 11:13 AM • permalinkJorgXMcKie — But he’s willing to cheer if other people take it farther. Remember “Screw them!”?
Posted by richard mcenroe on 2006 05 07 at 11:27 AM • permalinkTim — Hey, come on! What better commander in chief than one whose own subordinates tell him to piss off?
Posted by richard mcenroe on 2006 05 07 at 11:28 AM • permalinkbut activists will be demanding the sort of change that can come only from outside the Beltway.
“So I’M endorsing the general from the Pentagon!”
Posted by richard mcenroe on 2006 05 07 at 11:33 AM • permalinkWasn’t Kucinich Mike Moore’s candidate of choice before he settled on Clark?
I agree with those who don’t rate Hillary’s chances in 2008. She’s too divisive a figure.
Posted by James Waterton on 2006 05 07 at 12:29 PM • permalinkI think the current wistful yearning for the Dean juggernaut is evidence of what’s wrong with the Democrats today. They can’t recognize a loser even as his unstoppable machine grinds to a halt two yards past the starting line.
Further, instead of asking themselves why the voters keep rejecting their message, their election winning strategy is to find the most photogenic candidate with the best hair.
Posted by Steve Skubinna on 2006 05 07 at 03:19 PM • permalinkJorg,
Didn’t realize you were an early-90s Huskie too.
I don’t remember Kos (although we may have had some classes together, based on his major) or reading anything he wrote in the Northern Star (I assume that’s the paper you’re referring to), but he says he was actually a Republican at the time. That doesn’t surprise me, since most guys I knew at NIU were classic South Park Republicans.
His sharp leftward veer seems to be a product of a very bitter and disillusioning experience with the venture capitalist crowd in Silicon Valley. That isn’t an uncommon reaction, from what I’ve seen; nothing is as frustrating as seeing rich people make other rich people very very rich while you can’t beg enough capital from them to make your billion-dollar idea (which is SO MUCH BETTER!!) a reality. I’ve seen other people eaten up with class hatred over the experience.
Page 1 of 1 pages
Members:
Login | Register
| Member List
Kos is as well put together mentally as, Zacarias Moussaoui.