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COLD = BAD, WARMTH = BAD

“Let the sunshine in,” pleads Oxford-based Mister Z, who is depressed to discover just how few hours of sunlight he can expect during England’s winter:

Living in the UK is really quite marvellous, but the approaching winter grey & dark is the one thing that fills me with dread.

This boy could do with some climate change. Turns out, however, that Mister Z is not only opposed to grey and dark winters, but also to sunshiney global warming. There’s no pleasing these people.

Posted by Tim B. on 11/01/2006 at 01:18 PM
  1. I’ve never been so happy to see cold weather.  After four weeks of near mob hysteria that the world is going to end because the October temperature in London was 17C, I was gonna go postal on the next ignoramus that blamed the steamy weather on George Bush.

    Posted by murph on 2006 11 01 at 01:30 PM • permalink

  2. But…but…isn’t it all Bush’s fault?

    Posted by Kyda Sylvester on 2006 11 01 at 01:34 PM • permalink

  3. ...but the approaching winter grey & dark is the one thing that fills me with dread.

    Don’t live near or above the arctic (or antarctic, for that matter) circle, Mister Z.  During the winter, the sun is not visible at all for several months.  Been there, done that.

    Of course, in the summer one has 24 hours of sunshine, which can be annoying if you want to sleep, but is very pleasant on the whole. 

    Maybe Mister Z should become a Snowbird!

    Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2006 11 01 at 01:56 PM • permalink

  4. Of course it’s Bush’s fault!

    GW??  George W.??  GLOBAL WARMING????

    Geez, do I have to spell everything out??

    Posted by Tex Lovera on 2006 11 01 at 01:57 PM • permalink

  5. PS:  That assumes Mister Z can get enough carbon credits for a migratory life style, of course.  Gotta stay green, y’know, or else Mother Gais™ will be pissed.

    Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2006 11 01 at 01:59 PM • permalink

  6. PPS:  Are these jokes funny enough for Ninglun?

    Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2006 11 01 at 02:00 PM • permalink

  7. Self averred “Computer Scientist” Lambert is ever on the case.

    Lambert shows up in the comment thread lambasting Blair again.

    Posted by moptop on 2006 11 01 at 02:02 PM • permalink

  8. Our winter days in Ohio are not as short as those in the UK, nor are we as far north, but we get a lot colder mid-winter.  I blame Tim Lambert.

    Posted by RebeccaH on 2006 11 01 at 02:13 PM • permalink

  9. Don’t live near or above the arctic (or antarctic, for that matter) circle, Mister Z.  During the winter, the sun is not visible at all for several months.  Been there, done that.

    So did my husband. I asked him what he did for fun in that God-forsaken outpost. He said “Nobody had fun”.

    Posted by Kyda Sylvester on 2006 11 01 at 02:35 PM • permalink

  10. It’s not too bad if you are near a city, Kyda.  I was at Elmendorf (Anchorage) myself, with some time up in Fairbanks.  If you are out in the boonies, fun is in the jar until spring rolls around.

    Too bad Mister Z didn’t drop a line here, that would have been an interesting conversation.  But with his concerns about “mass executions” and all, he simply cut and run.

    Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2006 11 01 at 02:43 PM • permalink

  11. #7 moptop

    Ha the comment by Tim Lambert

    # November 2, 2006, 03:42:29

    Congrats, mister z, you drew a response from Tim Blair and even for Blair it’s stupid. Near as I can figure out, he thinks that global warming means that winter days will be longer in Britain.

    Well no, I’d say Tim is not saying that at all.  He’s just using humour to make a point.  Then again perhaps this is so serious that laughter is not allowed.

    But, say, is there a glimmer of light at the end of Lambert’s tunnel?  He seems to recognise that the earth orbits around the sun and that daylight is determined by the relative position of the earth to the sun.  Wow, that’s a starting point!  But does he recognise Milankovitch cycles and their effect on the world’s climate?

    And when it comes to CO2 and particularly the contribution from man’s activities on the atmosphere I’m reminded of a quaint analytical expression widely used by undergraduates in engineering from my days at the same University that now shields Lambert. 

    Simply for CO2, the effect is 2/3 of 3/8 of sweet FA.  (In layman’s terms that’s pretty close to zero.)

    Posted by Wand on 2006 11 01 at 05:50 PM • permalink

  12. Did you know that Ghandi says we are all privileged? 

    I think the smartarse humour is simply a defence mechanism.  Many people are simply incapable of visualising a reality that is significantly different to the world of privilege and material comfort in which they have lived all their lives.  Horrible thinks happen to other people, not to them.  The possibility is quite literally unimaginable, therefore it follows that the people predicting it must be idiots.

    And mars implies we are evil as well:

    “Evil is the absence of empathy”
    ~U.S. Army psychiatrist, Gustav Gilbert

    I wish someone had told me how privileged I am.  And that I’ve always been that way, never having known any grief.  Oh, and that a lack of empathy is evil.  I must be evil since I have no empathy with those yahoos commenting on that site.

    I stopped visiting sites like Kos and DU shortly after I went on the interweb.  Life’s too short to spend time with fantasists.  They offer no arguments, merely attacks.  I left the playground years ago.

    Posted by saltydog on 2006 11 01 at 05:54 PM • permalink

  13. The Ice Age Killed off the dinosaurs
    Seriously.

    The Labour Spokesperson on environment said it.

    I couldn’t beleive I heard it on the radio yesterday, so I waited for todays transcript.
    Ice age killed the dinosaurs

    “ANTHONY ALBANESE: Just as the dinosaurs were wiped out by the ice age, there’s a need for the dinosaurs in this building to be wiped out politically by the age of global warming.”

    Number 11:  Thank god someone else understands Milankovitch Cycles.

    I note that over the current Solar Cycle (which is just beginning), the predictions are that it will be a large one (More sunspots).  Sunspots are indications of the suns output.  More sunspots = more energy from the sun Not just CME’s).
    The Sun is the biggest influence on the Earths climate. 

    and this is interesting:

    Solar output greatest in 8000 years

    Of course though this counter-acts that:
    The effect of the Sun on Climate


    However, someone should ask the Martians what 4 wheel drives they are using, since the martian ice caps have reduced in size over the last 4 decades.

    Posted by wanglese on 2006 11 01 at 07:01 PM • permalink

  14. This is getting very serious - global warming is causing so much disaster it is not funny anymore.

    I don’t think there is anything its evil tentacles cannot reach.

    Posted by The Prez on 2006 11 01 at 07:49 PM • permalink

  15. ...but after reading the number of commenters on the linked post there who stated their wish for the mass-executions of ‘leftists’ as a response to climate change,...


    Keep up the good work chaps, we seem to piss off Mister Zzzzzzzzzz. Just watch out for the limited supply of italics. We must be italic neutral in our postingings.

    The irony-free left. Just love it.

    Posted by Wimpy Canadian on 2006 11 01 at 08:42 PM • permalink

  16. People are just sooo confused. I was brung up around London. Long, lazy suummer evenings and going to school in the dark in witner. I am now in the Great White North, 500 miles SOUTH of where I was from, and I get a lot more daylight and it’s a bloody sight colder.

    Winter’s arrived one mon th early this yearly. Buggger the eco-stupids and enviro-mentalists.

    Reality says: It’s gonna get colder before it gets warmer before it gets colder…and then the light will go out.

    Truth is, I don’t have an agenda to push, I just accept that weather varies and is always a Belinda.

    Posted by Wimpy Canadian on 2006 11 01 at 08:48 PM • permalink

  17. #12 Saltydfog, I grieve for you that you have never known grief.

    Good grief!

    Posted by Wimpy Canadian on 2006 11 01 at 08:50 PM • permalink

  18. #13 Wanglese, but did he specify which ice age and which dinosaurs.

    He is a politicians and will avoid being pinned down by specifics. If he can’t answer that queswtion, then he is a bullshitting wanker.

    Posted by Wimpy Canadian on 2006 11 01 at 08:53 PM • permalink

  19. However, someone should ask the Martians what 4 wheel drives they are using, since the martian ice caps have reduced in size over the last 4 decades.

    Well, in fact, thanks for bringing this up. The Martians have been using well documented solar-powered 4 wheel drive vehicles over the last 40 years.

    So much for eco-friendly. I say burn, baby, burn coal and Uranium.

    Posted by Wimpy Canadian on 2006 11 01 at 08:59 PM • permalink

  20. Pretty good news about the Martians. Solar-powered Explosive Space Modulators will reduce their dangerous dependence on imported Illudium Q-36.

    Posted by Paul Zrimsek on 2006 11 01 at 09:07 PM • permalink

  21. There’s no pleasing these people.

    That’s because they’re all whiney b*tches.

    Posted by Art Vandelay on 2006 11 01 at 09:51 PM • permalink

  22. Here in the Detroit Metro area, October was 7 degrees F colder than normal.  I blame Bush.  Being a lot colder than normal just proves that Global Warmening in imminent.

    Posted by JorgXMcKie on 2006 11 01 at 10:31 PM • permalink

  23. Something caused some freakin’ cold storms here today…did Algore fly over Central Europe, by any chance?

    Posted by PW on 2006 11 02 at 12:05 AM • permalink

  24. I love how they think that they are in physical danger from us vicious blairites.  Of course, it is the ones with political (i.e., legal force) clout who are calling for trials and prosecutions for those scientists who are “denying” the results of other so-called scientists.  Man o’ man, these guys have a weird idea of what “peer review” means.

    Posted by saltydog on 2006 11 02 at 01:28 AM • permalink

  25. #9

    I asked him what he did for fun in that God-forsaken outpost. He said “Nobody had fun”.

    Is it a caliphate already?

    Posted by kae on 2006 11 02 at 01:31 AM • permalink

  26. Melanie Phillips goes beyond the pale to hit the nail on the spot.
    It’s as plain as the egg on your face and simple as pulling hen’s teeth.

    Reason fights back

    Posted by Mike_W on 2006 11 02 at 08:11 AM • permalink

  27. Something caused some freakin’ cold storms here today…did Algore fly over Central Europe, by any chance?

    I don’t know, PW, but the temps here are up 12 degrees F from yesterday….to just below freezing (30 F, or -1 C).  Maybe Lord Karl is having some fun with the weather machine?

    Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2006 11 02 at 10:43 AM • permalink

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