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DIVERGENCE SHOWN

The Guardian reports:

A damning study from Cambridge University today exposes Guardian readers as being worse than readers of the tabloids or the Telegraph when it comes to insulating their homes …

The study by David Reiner, of the Judge Business School, comes up with the shaming statistic that only 42% of Guardian or Indy readers have installed insulation, compared to 72% of Express readers.

Dr Reiner concludes: “They show a clear divergence between their views as citizens and their actions as consumers.”

Similar green hypocrisy has been noticed in Australia.

Posted by Tim B. on 12/21/2006 at 12:32 AM
  1. “A damning study from Cambridge University today exposes Guardian readers as being worse than readers of the tabloids or the Telegraph when it comes to insulating their homes …”

    In their defense, it’s not that easy to insulate a cardboard box.

    Posted by Dave Surls on 2006 12 21 at 12:38 AM • permalink

  2. so, umm…greenie devotees to the cult of glowball wurmening are the ones actually ... umm… like, you know, not helping to stop the wurmening of glowballs?

    Posted by Grimmy on 2006 12 21 at 12:39 AM • permalink

  3. I bet they don’t use those foam beer can holder thingies, either. Hypocrisy, thy name is Eco-Friendly!

    Posted by AlburyShifton on 2006 12 21 at 12:44 AM • permalink

  4. #3 or these either.

    (Scroll down carefully, workazoids)

    Posted by Margos Maid on 2006 12 21 at 12:49 AM • permalink

  5. Also applies to socialists and people who love telling others what to do.

    Bono: you rich capitalist scum should give up your fortunes to third world facist dictators!  Then poverty will be made history.

    Common Man: What about giving up your fortune to make poverty history?

    Bono: Er,...no.

    Posted by EvilK on 2006 12 21 at 12:50 AM • permalink

  6. I’m wrapping my home in whale blubber right now.

    Posted by anthony_r on 2006 12 21 at 01:04 AM • permalink

  7. Like John Lennon “imagining no possessions” from one of his numerous mansions.

    Posted by Teaparty on 2006 12 21 at 01:05 AM • permalink

  8. You may saa-ay I’m a hypocritical plonker
    But I’m not the only one

    Posted by Margos Maid on 2006 12 21 at 01:07 AM • permalink

  9. The essence of being a greenie: everyone else should do something.

    Posted by Tex on 2006 12 21 at 01:08 AM • permalink

  10. #4 MM, I’d bet greenies would knit and wear some of those designs.  Maybe with a logo like “keep your rosaries off my knitted ovaries”...

    Posted by anthony_r on 2006 12 21 at 01:08 AM • permalink

  11. #6, rebase:

    I’m wrapping my home in whale blubber right now.

    You order that online?

    Posted by Grimmy on 2006 12 21 at 01:09 AM • permalink

  12. “A damning study from Cambridge University today exposes Guardian readers as being worse than readers of the tabloids or the Telegraph when it comes to insulating their homes …”

    What the hell else are they doing with their cop of The Grauniad? Can’t be reading it, surely?

    Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2006 12 21 at 01:18 AM • permalink

  13. Who needs proper insulation when you’re out of the house protesting George Bush at all times anyway?

    Posted by PW on 2006 12 21 at 01:22 AM • permalink

  14. the shaming statistic that only 42% of Guardian or Indy readers have installed insulation

    And we know from experience that 80% of them would be lying.

    Posted by geoff on 2006 12 21 at 01:26 AM • permalink

  15. I’m wrapping my home in whale blubber right now.

    You can use whale blubber?  Damn!  All that fiberglass and styrofoam insulation that I just had installed is obsolete!!  And here I thought having my house completely wired up for ethernet was the cat’s meow.

    Stupid greenies, suppressing such important scientific discoveries.  Bunch of luddites is what they are.

    Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2006 12 21 at 01:29 AM • permalink

  16. only 42% of Guardian or Indy readers have installed insulation

    Refreshingly, 100% have tin foil hats to insulate against rational thought.

    Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2006 12 21 at 01:34 AM • permalink

  17. O/T - The Times is reporting that a British soldier has been charged with supplying secrets to Iran.

    Posted by Ian Deans on 2006 12 21 at 01:51 AM • permalink

  18. #16
    What, no tin-foil lining for their homes?

    ... y’know that insulation stuff costs money ...

    Posted by egg_ on 2006 12 21 at 01:56 AM • permalink

  19. The Victorian bushfires witnessed the same phenomenon - the tree huggers were (and are) nowhere to be seen amongst the volunteer fire fighters.

    Have you noticed that the greenies - who’ll chain themselves to a tree to defend a single bird nest - and the media have been silent about the massive loss of wildlife that must have occurred in the firestorms that have engulfed 700,000 ha of Victoria’s bushland?  Silent because greenie-inspired policies are in large part responsible for this awful incineration of our forests.

    Posted by Ubique on 2006 12 21 at 02:03 AM • permalink

  20. leftards not practising what they preach- oh say it aint so

    these hypercrites are killing mother earth the gorey way

    Posted by eeniemeenie on 2006 12 21 at 02:10 AM • permalink

  21. #17, Ian Deans:

    Who’s putting together the pool on when the MSM will begin broadcasting those details ‘held to be dangerous…’?

    Wont be considered fair play if the Iranians get exclusive access to the traitor’s product.

    Posted by Grimmy on 2006 12 21 at 02:15 AM • permalink

  22. “They show a clear divergence between their views as citizens and their actions as consumers.”

    To us cynical Tim Blair readers, it comes as no surprise whatsoever. Har-har!

    Posted by Spiny Norman on 2006 12 21 at 02:19 AM • permalink

  23. So we can expect to see George Monboit calling for the hanging, burning and quatering of non-insulated gruinard readers in the event a Bangladeshi drowns??

    Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2006 12 21 at 02:22 AM • permalink

  24. #21 - I wouldn’t want to bet when, but whom: my money is on the BBC, the Guardian or the NY Times.

    Posted by Ian Deans on 2006 12 21 at 02:31 AM • permalink

  25. 100% of Sun readers like big knockers.

    Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2006 12 21 at 02:40 AM • permalink

  26. Clearly this study was funded by the big Home Improvement industry and the evil Drywall lobby… 

    Seriously, who in their right mind doesn’t insulate their house at those latitudes?  I could see the point of not insulating in warm climates where the temperature doesn’t get down low enough to require much heating, but when your living at a latitude not too far south of Alaska…

    Posted by Vexorg on 2006 12 21 at 02:56 AM • permalink

  27. Guardian readers should use drowned Bangladeshis to insulate their homes. Make climate change work for you.

    Posted by Brian O'Connell on 2006 12 21 at 03:00 AM • permalink

  28. Other people are quite dreadful. ...

    I think Oscar Wilde’s Lord Goring was a proto-Green.  This is what this is all about.

    A cursory glance at surveys about Green issues reveals that environmental degradation is all somebody else’s fault.

    People like Monbiot, Flannery, Gore and other assorted gobshites have no intention of sacrificing their lavish lifestyles. 

    They want other people to do it.

    Posted by murph on 2006 12 21 at 03:03 AM • permalink

  29. #17 ian deans,

    3 to 7 years for betraying your country- pathetic

    or is this to give his former colleagues a chance to show him their appreciation in some dark alley when he gets out?

    a while back some newspaper published diagrams of american body armour helpfully showing the enemy where it was most vulnerable- was anyone ever punished?

    Posted by eeniemeenie on 2006 12 21 at 03:06 AM • permalink

  30. #28: Prime example - Tim Flannery’s dreary doco 2 Men in a Tinny. His pointless ABC doco of him and John Doyle showing us how buggered the Murray River is.

    If he really believed it, it would have been 2 Men in a Row Boat.

    Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2006 12 21 at 03:10 AM • permalink

  31. #29 - Why wouldn’t something like this qualify as treason? To my mind, you sell out national secrets and you deserve 20 to life. If it’s during wartime, then you are lined up and shot (you endangered the lives of others, after all).

    Posted by Ian Deans on 2006 12 21 at 03:14 AM • permalink

  32. #29, no, but there have been reports of statistical evidence that sniper hits were becoming more focused on exactly the spots outlined in that article.

    Posted by Grimmy on 2006 12 21 at 03:27 AM • permalink

  33. Jumping to unkind conclusions against greenies again, people?

    Stop and think for a moment. This is the Grauniad we’re talking about. Clearly, the headline would have told them to:

    Start insultating now!

    So they promptly painted something incredibly witty about Tony bLIAR on their cardboard sign (aka their north-facing wall) and did so.

    Hardly their fault.

    Posted by RexW on 2006 12 21 at 03:35 AM • permalink

  34. #31 & 32 - yes- treason in wartime is exactly what it is and a bullet is called for

    that goes for the journalists and editors responsible for the body armour thing too

    i understand there are people disagree with the war-i think they are deluded but they have a right to their opinions

    just as i have the right to hold them in utter contempt

    but there are lines that should not be able to be crossed without facing extremely serious consequences

    Posted by eeniemeenie on 2006 12 21 at 03:48 AM • permalink

  35. The Telegraph has more: he is an interpreter who speaks Pashtun of Iranian descent; his mother apparently only speaks Farsi.

    Posted by Ian Deans on 2006 12 21 at 03:52 AM • permalink

  36. Hey gang,

    I would like to insulate my house so that moonbat incursions are minimised.

    Any suggestions?

    Posted by Penguin on 2006 12 21 at 04:12 AM • permalink

  37. #36, Penguin:

    You asking for suggestions of specific make, model and caliber? or more along the lines of shot load mix?

    Posted by Grimmy on 2006 12 21 at 04:18 AM • permalink

  38. Q.  How many Greens does it take to insulate a home?
    A.  Depends on how thinly you slice them.

    Posted by egg_ on 2006 12 21 at 04:35 AM • permalink

  39. 1. Buy gun.Check.
    2. Slice up some greenies. Check.

    I’m off to a good start.

    Posted by Penguin on 2006 12 21 at 04:57 AM • permalink

  40. #26, I could see the point of not insulating in warm climates

    I can’t.  Insulation is good for keeping heat out of the house as well as for keeping it in.  Insulating your house is sensible no matter where you live.  Consider Sydney last week.  One day it was 37C and the next it was 14C.  Bake or shiver.  And that’s supposed to be a temperate climate. 

    Where I live is tropical.  We have pink batts in the roof space but I’d dearly love to find some sort of insulated cladding for our masonry walls.  They will, I hope, keep us safe if a cyclone comes but they’re a bugger for storing up heat during the day and releasing it at night.

    Posted by Janice on 2006 12 21 at 05:19 AM • permalink

  41. Speaking of environmental news, I saw on news.com.au that they’re expecting snow at Perisher and Thredbo on Christmas Day!

    (Cue a rendition of ‘White Christmas’)

    Posted by Ian Deans on 2006 12 21 at 06:44 AM • permalink

  42. #41 Surely Gore must be having a private holiday

    Posted by Margos Maid on 2006 12 21 at 06:48 AM • permalink

  43. Bloody Brissy is cold for this time of year.  If i wanted weather like this I would live in Melbourne or Canberra.

    Posted by entropy on 2006 12 21 at 07:20 AM • permalink

  44. Actually I think it’s becuase most of the grauniad readers have [inherited | married for] money and don’t have any financial reason to use insulation.

    Posted by Rob Read on 2006 12 21 at 07:26 AM • permalink

  45. Ian Deans, I was wondering what the impulse behind his treasonous acts could possibly be. I wondered if he had either converted to Shi’ite Islam, or was part Iranian, because otherwise I couldn’t understand why an Englishman would have anything to do with Iran. There just isn’t the same sort of fellow-traveller conflict that there was in the Cold War days. (Then again, I can’t understand the sympathy leftoids have for Muslim countries like Iran, which are the sort of totalitarian theocracies that they are supposed to hate and fear.)

    Posted by Andrea Harris, Administrator on 2006 12 21 at 07:27 AM • permalink

  46. Lefties love telling people what to do.

    Ergo, government must pass law that anyone with a Guardian subscription must be compelled to install insulation within 6 months, under threat of heavy fines.  Hang the cost and the difficulty, something must be done.

    Given that most Guardian readers also seem to be rabidly agin fox hunting, I’d make them insulate with fox fur.

    Posted by mr creosote on 2006 12 21 at 07:33 AM • permalink

  47. JANICE:

    “Extruded polystyrene board”: hard to get in Aus., it’s a stiff board that comes in thicknesses from 5mm to 2 inches. You might be able to get it with textures on one side or put a thin layer under masonite or other interior cladding. They use the stuff to insulate cool-rooms and large refrigeration units.

    Posted by wreckage on 2006 12 21 at 07:55 AM • permalink

  48. #45 - Even in the Cold War days you had through-and-through Britons selling out - Philby and Mclean were as British as they came, but they gave secrets to Moscow. But admittedly, it seems a remarkably rare thing for a Brit to betray his countrymen.

    I’ve always believed the Left sides with Islam simply because they still have the old cold war mindset - ‘the enemy of my enemy is my friend’, whereas ‘the enemy of my enemy is my enemy’ is truer.

    Posted by Ian Deans on 2006 12 21 at 07:59 AM • permalink

  49. Philby et al had the whole “communism/international brotherhood” bs behind them, didn’t they? While on the other hand Iranians, despite being Muslim and thus supposedly part of a “all men are brothers” similar crock of poo, are intensely nationalistic. Of course, lefties are in denial about such things… only the evil West is nationalist, etc.

    Posted by Andrea Harris, Administrator on 2006 12 21 at 09:33 AM • permalink

  50. Newspaper makes a fairly good insulation material, particularly if it’s shredded and spread around in your attic (I think contracters use some kind of electric blower). May I recommend shredded copies of the Niagara Falls Reporter? It’s the kind of course, cheap newsprint that makes for great insulation.

    Posted by paco on 2006 12 21 at 09:44 AM • permalink

  51. Leftists are narcissists; it’s all about them.  They don’t care about outcomes or effects; they care about how they feel about themselves and how other Leftists view them.

    Posted by nobody important on 2006 12 21 at 10:12 AM • permalink

  52. #47, wreckage

    Thanks very much.  Will look into it.

    Posted by Janice on 2006 12 21 at 10:34 AM • permalink

  53. In posh British public shcools there developed a sort of authoritarian collectivist attitude with, of course, these “wise elite” leading the serfs.

    Leftism appeals to over-confident narcisicts who haven’t faced real world pressures.

    Posted by Rob Read on 2006 12 21 at 11:15 AM • permalink

  54. I installed insulation in my house and discovered the bleeding obvious - it slows the incoming heat on a hot day but also slows the outgoing heat at night. So I installed ducted evaperative airconditioning. That combination works very well in the low humidity early summer where I live. For the late summer high humidity days I use the old refrigerated wall unit in my lounge room.

    Posted by Observer on 2006 12 21 at 11:16 AM • permalink

  55. The fact that liberals are all hat, no cattle is news?

    Posted by Kyda Sylvester on 2006 12 21 at 12:19 PM • permalink

  56. “I would like to insulate my house so that moonbat incursions are minimised.  Any suggestions?”

    Flying an American flag in front of your RWDB compound is an effective method to keep lefty trash away.

    They hate that shit.

    Shooting the little bastards on sight works pretty well too.

    Posted by Dave Surls on 2006 12 21 at 12:24 PM • permalink

  57. OT but important. I just left a comment at Crittenden’s blog about this post (linked to by Tim in this post).

    I’ve accepted the Grimmy Challenge. How about you?

    Posted by Kyda Sylvester on 2006 12 21 at 01:26 PM • permalink

  58. Silly. It’s not hypocrisy for them to want the Government to make everybody do something, and then not do it for themselves. They’re waiting for the government to come do it for them.

    Posted by bovious on 2006 12 21 at 01:35 PM • permalink

  59. Maybe they don’t heat their homes at all.  Then insulation doesn’t matter.

    That would be the Green Way in life, after all.

    Posted by rhhardin on 2006 12 21 at 01:59 PM • permalink

  60. From the Guardian: “So all you earnest and well-intentioned Guardian readers out there - stop talking about saving the planet and get on with it!”

    Oh, I say! I thought, for a second, the line ended with “get off of it!” Sounds better that way.

    Posted by paco on 2006 12 21 at 02:41 PM • permalink

  61. Time to empanel a Nuremburg type court to try these noninsulating wreckers, comrades!

    Posted by Steve Skubinna on 2006 12 21 at 02:50 PM • permalink

  62. You would think that the Guardian readers would be more receptive after having seen this Guardian article which claims 25,000 excess deaths in the UK due to inadequate insulation. I guess they raised the alarm out of fear of losing their readership!

    Posted by moptop on 2006 12 21 at 05:08 PM • permalink

  63. I wonder how many of those excess deaths could be averted by a little… , well you fill in the rest, it’s just too easy.

    Posted by moptop on 2006 12 21 at 05:12 PM • permalink

  64. #38 egg_

    Wouldn’t that be a bit, er, messy?

    Posted by kae on 2006 12 21 at 06:38 PM • permalink

  65. Slightly O/T:

    Our ABC Local Radio morning announcer recently took a week off to attend a local ‘Global Warming’ conference (on full pay, I’ll bet). Apparently, she pushed hard to be on it, according to her replacement.  I guess that ‘Global Warming’ is a foregone conclusion to these types and their task is to come up with an action plan ... what would the rest of us do without them?

    Posted by egg_ on 2006 12 21 at 07:36 PM • permalink

  66. #65 - Probably not pay as much as tax, for one thing.

    Posted by Ian Deans on 2006 12 21 at 08:24 PM • permalink

  67. Kyda - about the Any Soldier stuff - can I assume that pre-packaged snacks are OK? Any suggestions?

    Posted by Dave S. on 2006 12 21 at 08:30 PM • permalink

  68. Guardian readers are a natural source of hot air.  They don’t really need insulation.  They really burn through the old carbon credits, tho.

    Posted by richard mcenroe on 2006 12 21 at 09:25 PM • permalink

  69. #67, DaveS:

    The links to AnySoldier and Valor-IT were provided as examples to our fellow anglospherys that havent figured out how to actually get off their asses and start showing their troops some tangible love and support.

    I suggested someone from the various countries who’s troops are being made to feel ignored to make contact with those organizations and get start-up hints and helps to create something ‘grassroots’ of their own.

    If you are wanting to add your bit to the avalanche of support and love given our own troops, I would suggest contacting AnySoldier yourself to get the straight scoop on what’s what. You can even take a look at their lists that the soldiers themselves are posting as to what’s most helpful or in short supply.

    Posted by Grimmy on 2006 12 21 at 09:31 PM • permalink

  70. Any suggestions?

    A Cheney/Rumsfeld ‘08 yard sign ought to do it.

    Posted by Achillea on 2006 12 22 at 01:17 PM • permalink

  71. Don’t blame the Guardian’s readers, they’re just following the example set by their leaders.

    Posted by Dminor on 2006 12 22 at 06:34 PM • permalink

  72. #70, Achillea:

    My dream ticket. And no, I’m not joking. And yeah, I’m a fellow member of the SCA, though a bit more toward Central. It’s all to be Aztlan soon anyway.

    Posted by Grimmy on 2006 12 23 at 04:51 AM • permalink

  73. #72 -

    I’d love to see it, too, if only for the chance to watch lefties down on their knees praying for Cheney’s health.

    Posted by Achillea on 2006 12 23 at 06:10 PM • permalink

  74. for clerification: SCA above meant Southern CAlifornia.

    Posted by Grimmy on 2006 12 23 at 10:37 PM • permalink

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