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Lefty Tim Lambert has set up a mirror of this site – apparently hosted on the University of New South Wales server. I’ve sent him a note.
UPDATE. Lambert, who hasn’t answered my email or phone calls, has given the mirrored site a clever new name: “This is Not Tim Blair’s blog”. Yet everything I post immediately appears there. It’s the work of a super genius!
I’m not really interested—yet—in what legal or copyright issues may be involved. I’d just prefer that Lambert close the thing and stop being so weird and obsessive.
UPDATE II. Just spoke to Lambert’s supervisor, Paul Compton, at the UNSW. He told me Lambert had agreed to take his site down lest the UNSW’s role in this debacle be “misunderstood”. I’d spoken to Lambert a few minutes earlier; he hadn’t mentioned this. We’ll wait and see.
UPDATE III. The Lambert matter is concluded. Much thanks to everybody (including Ken Parish) for legal advice and offers of assistance; it’s alarming to me that things had to reach to that point before the duplicate site was taken down. If ever a right-winger tries to pull the same dumb stunt on a lefty, well, let me condemn you in advance.
A final point: after complaining about how unfair it was that they couldn’t comment here, members of the banned had an entire day to make their incisive points about any post … and they didn’t say a thing outside of the lead item. Kinda proves something, doesn’t it?
It’s not a mirror. There is nothing stored at UNSW. All it does is replace comments with Haloscan ones so anyone can comment, not just people that agree with Tim Blair. Oh, and trackbacks that work.
This is hilarious. So instead of typing timblair.net into our address bars, we can now type cgi.cse.unsw.edu.au/~lambert/cgi-bin/timblair.net—all so that Lambert can feel self-righteous about letting trolls leave annoying comments.
Doesn’t he have anything better to do?
Mr Lambert is trying to circumvent the ban on him at timblair.net. The commenting is redirected to haloscan.
I wonder that Mr Lambert’s employers, The University of New South Wales, think of him running his blog on a university server. I also wonder why he is allowed to do his blogging on university time. Do their employees not have work to do?
-AN Smith
Posted by niobium2000 on 2005 03 15 at 07:21 PM • permalinkYou know, if I was less ethical, I’d suggest we all go to Lambert’s site and spam the hell out of his comments.
If I was less ethical, of course.
Maybe Andrea could make a minor change every couple of days or so to the site—just enough to break his mirror. Or somehow just block all referrals from his mirror completely.So does this tosser think that Tim’s site is a public utility, therefore has to have “free speech”? I doesn’t matter whether you think Andrea and Tim’s administration of the site is fair, unfair, fascist or whatever. It’s a private website, therefore you don’t have any say, nor do you have a right to hijack it (and since the “fake” version is perfectly capable of making someone believe it’s Tim’s actual site, it’s clearly hijacking). I hope you have the same nice laws in Australia that we have in the States regarding these sorts of things.
Boy, lefties sure like cute, fun little games! I’d love for this one to figure out that this sort of thing ain’t a game at all.
If I go over there, will I find a Spock with a beard?
Posted by JorgXMcKie on 2005 03 15 at 08:30 PM • permalinkNo Jorg, you’ll find Mork. *shudder* Don’t bother.
It’s funny to think that all deep, deep scars Andrea has inflicted on these people have not yet healed. Can you imagine what is going on in their heads?
“Kick me out, will you? Well… well… well… I’ll go set up my OWN Tim Blair blog! And we’ll have cake and a water slide, too! And free Kool-aid on Tuesdays! We don’t need your… your stinkin’... your… uh… RIGHTWINGFACISTCHIMPLERHALIBURTONOILJOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO*head explode*”
Instant. Karma.
That’s all I’m saying for now.
Posted by Andrea Harris, Administrator on 2005 03 15 at 09:26 PM • permalinkCan you believe that this was one of the comments to a post he made on his own (not stolen) blog:
I think your intellectual honesty is a solid contribution to that ranking (of his Uni in the world’s top 50)
Intellectually honest? What a joke.
Posted by Villeurbanne on 2005 03 15 at 09:36 PM • permalinkI’d like to take this opportunity to mention that the “study” of Iraqi war deaths published by The Lancet last year is a load of tripe.
Now Lambert can whinge about that in his troll-only Haloscan comments, while unable to do anything here. :)
Posted by Evil Pundit on 2005 03 15 at 09:41 PM • permalinkThe bastard has even stolen Tim’s first name!
Posted by Evil Pundit on 2005 03 15 at 09:46 PM • permalinkNews flash! Accused plagiarist Tim Lambert not real Indian!
Posted by richard mcenroe on 2005 03 15 at 09:50 PM • permalinkI’ve never seen a picture of Tim Lambert. Does he look just like Tim Blair, but with strange, blocky features?
Tim, as someone who has worked as a professional editor, literary agent and small press publisher, Lambert is in violation of your copyright.
Posted by richard mcenroe on 2005 03 15 at 10:00 PM • permalinkNah. Anyone who believes that Iraq War casualty numbers tripe in The Lancet is not worth engaging.
Posted by Evil Pundit on 2005 03 15 at 10:02 PM • permalinkHey ChrisPer! Maybe you’ll want to thinkshard why we don’t want to accept your “teensy challenge” to “Engage him on the arguments.” Hint: it has something to do with the fact that we don’t share your opinion that he’s “smart enough to be worth [y]our while.”
Come on now—thinks hard! Thinks real hard!
Posted by Andrea Harris, Administrator on 2005 03 15 at 10:05 PM • permalinkChrisPer,
Tim Lambert is indeed quite intelligent but he also has the typical lefty trait of vilifying people whose opinions he cannot abide - for instance in my case I am always associated with the Lavosier Group, which by associating me with it, implies I am in the pay of big oil, coal and what not. Totally wrong of course, I am in the pay of big diamonds :-).
He also has no difficulty dismissing debaters as cranks, Professor John Brignell being one recipient of such an ad hominem.
I have engaged him on some arguments, and if he doesn’t like them, he edits them out. Like Margo in her web diary.
So sorry ChrisPer, no thanks, your challenge is graciously declined.
Evil, exactly right. The Lancet study is clearly invalid from beginning to end. Even if the numbers were right, the study would still be a load of tripe.
“Let’s apply epidemiology to warfare! Let’s use surveys rather than hard numbers! Let’s ignore any posibility of bias or inaccuracy! Let’s ignore obviously skewed sampling, and just average everything! And let’s not bother to compare our results to what is actually happening!”
Come to think of it, the Lancet paper is pretty rigorous compared to some of the studies the left likes to wave about. At least it gives a range - 95% probability of between 8000 and 190,000 additional deaths, which makes it quite clear they have no clue.
Another parasite shows his hand. But how embarrassing for Australian higher education - he’s supposed to be a PhD tutor; don’t PhDs somehow equate to intelligence?
Blair has something they all desparately crave: an audience.
But it’s very close to stalking, and it’s definitely parasitic. And who’s that Mork idiot? Seems to think there’s no copyright because money is not changing hands (apart from being totally incorrect, money is changing hands by way of ads and there’s quantifiable value in web traffic).
Just phoned my good habib (he’s at UNSW).
He and some friends are going to go see Lambert after their lecture and ask him very nicely to take it down.
Posted by Jihad Pundit on 2005 03 15 at 10:19 PM • permalinkhow embarrassing for Australian higher education - he’s supposed to be a PhD tutor; don’t PhDs somehow equate to intelligence?
#35, PhDs do equate to intelligence, but not necessarily to simple common sense. I know some highly intelligent people who can’t function adequately in the real world without a keeper (usually the long-suffering spouse). They tend to congregate at universities. Draw whatever conclusions you will.
Tim — A serious point:
The idiot left your PayPal button active on his site. That means he is soliciting people to send you money based on his version of your site and his altered version of your comment threads. He is, in short, damaging your product, brnad name and reputation with your customer base.
Oh, and he writes:
” It’s not a mirror. There is nothing stored at UNSW.” A search of his page source information shows this to not be a case, so the UNSW is a party to his act of fraud.
You do, if you wish to pursue it, have grounds for a criminal action against both parties.
Posted by richard mcenroe on 2005 03 15 at 10:45 PM • permalinkJihad Pundit: They should then go visit the Dean’s office, or whatever the downunda equivalent is, and maybe the university’s solicitor based on my last post.
Posted by richard mcenroe on 2005 03 15 at 10:47 PM • permalinki’m sure tim blair’s advertisers wouldnt want to be involved in lambert’s ‘blair’ blog. if those advertisers pull their ads because of this, lambert may be liable for costs. as noted he’s a smart guy but theres ‘such a fine line between clever.. and stupid’ (david st hubbins).
Posted by Lucky Nutsacks on 2005 03 15 at 10:49 PM • permalinkSo does this make Tim L an Evil Twin - or perhaps an Evil Tim?
You know, if he’s going to dedicate a whole page to mocking this one, he could put a little more work into it. Whatever happened to putting together a site like Sullywatch or just flat-out setting up a parodic page? Very low marks on both effort and imagination, professor.
don’t PhDs somehow equate to intelligence?
Good God NO!
PhDs are about education, not intelligence. Remember what the Wizard of Oz said: “I can’t give you a brain, but I can give you a diploma.”
Posted by Rob Crawford on 2005 03 15 at 10:50 PM • permalinkPixie and Evil ( I hope you don’t mind the familiarity ),
Mr. Lambert really loves his statistical surveys. He lost me when he argued that although the number of people attending Police Stations in England to report violence had risen (Confidence Level 100%), a statistical survey showed that violence was lower than the actual number of reports, and therefore was decreasing. (Confidence Level - sounds like bullsh** to me).In industry we adopt the position that PhD’s are locked in their office, and food slid underneath the door. If they are to be let out, they must be in the presence of their keepers.
As for Tim Lambert, I suspect it is part of a concerted effort to demolish conservative blogs world-wide.
The body-language reaction I got from an ALP heavy in WA a few weeks ago in Perth suggested that my anti-global warming views are damaging their position on Kyoto.
Equally I suspect the left world-wide have suddenly realised what free-expression on blogs is capable of. The looneys, whether on the right or left, have never liked freedom of speech.
Since the content is loaded from Tim Blair’s server, I think it could be argued that Lambert’s site is a theft of Blair’s resources.
Pixy and SezaGeoff: Thanks for confirming my assessment of Tim Lambert’s claims.
Posted by Evil Pundit on 2005 03 15 at 11:07 PM • permalinkSince the content is loaded from Tim Blair’s server, I think it could be argued that Lambert’s site is a theft of Blair’s resources.
IANAL, but I’d say it’s theft of services. Also, altering the page content is creating a derivative work; doing so without permission is copyright violation. It doesn’t qualify as parody; there’s too much of the original content left untouched.
Which leads to an interesting question: If someone created an “echo” like that, of Lambert’s site, but piped everything he wrote through a “jive” or “Swedish chef” filter along the way, would it qualify as parody?
Posted by Rob Crawford on 2005 03 15 at 11:14 PM • permalinkI am also a lawyer and say Tim, go for it!
Posted by Susan Norton on 2005 03 15 at 11:21 PM • permalinkThe cute thing is, all these guys over there who think this is just the kewlest thing ever (Mork, David Heidelberg, some guy named Tom, etc.) are proving exactly why they’re banned from commenting here. Bryla should pop up any minute now.
But hey, who really expected leftists to practice respect of other people’s property anyway.
UPDATE. Lambert, who hasn’t answered my email or phone calls, has given the mirrored site a clever new name: “This is Not Tim Blair’s blog�. Yet everything I post immediately appears there. It’s the work of a super genius!
But Lambert did not change the title that appears on the top of the browser; it still says “Tim Blair”, and therefore that’s also the title you get when you add it to Favorites. Like you said, a super genius.
My area is tax law and economics, not intellectual law. But it’s my understanding that courts are somewhat lenient towards others who borrow from others’ work for:
—parody
—to generate debate
—do not profit
—make it clear, or with a small amount of effort, that their work is not the same as the original.But Australian law might differ from American law. Certainly British law is more uncompromising on the issue of slander and libel.
Posted by wronwright on 2005 03 15 at 11:35 PM • permalinkJihad Pundit: Just remind them, “face it, Flounder, you threw up on Dean Wormer.” is only funny in the movies…
Posted by richard mcenroe on 2005 03 15 at 11:37 PM • permalinkSorry Tim, I left a post on the mirror site before seeing your request not to contribute more postings. Please don’t let Andrea use her Fist of Death on me.
Posted by wronwright on 2005 03 15 at 11:38 PM • permalinkBut it’s very close to stalking,
I agree - there are undertones of “Single White female” through this.
Posted by Art Vandelay on 2005 03 15 at 11:40 PM • permalinkTim, not to be paranoid, but if you see a pot bubbling on the stove and you didn’t put it there, don’t lift the lid!
Unless, of course, you like rabbit…
Posted by richard mcenroe on 2005 03 16 at 12:04 AM • permalinkTim: Just think of what this is doing for your advertising exposure! Everyone who looks over there counts as a page view that sells ads *for you*, without paying for the bandwidth.
Pop the champagne!
Posted by Aaron - Freewill on 2005 03 16 at 12:10 AM • permalinkIs someone throwing a tantrum for getting his sorry ass banned? Obsessive, ain’t he? Poor oppressed TimL has definitely got some “issues.”
What a punk.
Posted by Spiny Norman on 2005 03 16 at 12:28 AM • permalinkIs someone throwing a tantrum for getting his sorry ass banned? Obsessive, ain’t he? Poor oppressed TimL has definitely got some “issues.�
What a punk.
Short dick disease
Posted by swassociates on 2005 03 16 at 12:32 AM • permalinkI offer the other Tim a bookmarklet (requires firefox) so you can have your own version of blairs site without polluting the interwebs.
Posted by drscroogemcduck on 2005 03 16 at 12:34 AM • permalinkHaving looked at Tim Lambert’s rip off of Tim Blair’s site and having read there a number of comments claiming that this is not a breach of copyright - because it does not invole any financial gain on Lambert’s part - I would merely note that under Australian copyright law, copyright applies whether there is or isn’t finacial gain involved. Copyright always resides with the original author of a work (or webpage)and has nothing to do with “economic gain”. The fact that most legal cases involving breach of coyright are about financial loss or gain (because they involve $$$, hitting the hip pocket nerve!) does not alter or effect the provisions of the coyright act.
As to copying for fair use, the rule of thumb is that no more than 10% of a work (or 10% of the actual words on a website) can legitimately be used for purposes of research or study (or parody). Many bloggers should probably be taking a closer look at copyright issues and abuses on their own blogs. So far copyright law is still pretty much in its infancy regarding the Internet and copying of digital works but it can only become a bigger issue.
Copying someone else’s website virtually intact, merely removing comments and replacing them with one’s own is undoubtedly breaching copyright. Nor does this constitute a a “mirror” of Tim Blair’s site, because it crucially alters the comments to reflect criticism of the original author and owner, Blair.
It is also completely unethical but as we live in age of relativistic ethics the offender will probably claim that it doesn’t breach HIS ethics so it is OK. The point is that others with higher standards can judge whether it is unethical or not. It would be a simple and more ethical approach for Lambert to link to posts on Blair’s site and criticise them to his heart’s content. This involves no deceit, which the current rip-off does.
It is my observation, that the Tim Lambert fiasco is another sign of a growing trend in which the ruling liberal orthodoxy is panicking; thus responding to popular criticism by seeking to subvert and undermine the growing power and influence of grassroots blogs.
Hi everyone! Check out my own new site.
And while I’m here, I just want to say this: the Lancet study was entirely correct and fascist Tim BLiar and Andrea Harrassment should be ashamed of their cowardly complicity in the deaths of innocent Iraqis - and also their sickening support of Georgie McStutter Monkey in the WHY!-te House.
Thank you.
Tim Lancet, I would tip my hat to you for this post alone, were I wearing a hat.
“Georgie McStutter Monkey”
Dammit!
Posted by Andrea Harris, Administrator on 2005 03 16 at 01:07 AM • permalinkAaargh!
Between Tim Lancet and Tim Lambert’s bizarre behaviour I think I am weirded out for the day. At least Tim Lancet’s is funny. In a deeply disturbing way, it is true, but still funny.
Lambert is patently off the rails with this warped and childish hissy fit, but think through the implications. He is supposedly among the best the ‘soft left’ has to offer, and his behaviour is just fractured and irrational.
He is irrelevant, his ideology is a festering corpse, and he is beginning to suspect it. Hence the infantile behaviour.
Thank goodness there a few are class-act, decent and rational leftist-leaners about like Tim Dunlop to have rational debate with.
MarkL
CanberraThe hell?
This is the weirdest (and might I add, most pathetic) thing since the Tim BLiar blog, and the T BLiarLies blog, and the T BLiarLiesLies blog. Since when does freedom of speech apply to private property?
Note to self: Turn up uninvited to Tim L’s house and, if he tries to kick you out, simply yell that my dissent is being crushed.
Posted by Quentin George on 2005 03 16 at 01:33 AM • permalinkAwwww, the Lambert clone is gone
Louis, click on the link now - he’s now trying to set up an alternate comments link for Tim’s blog.
It’s creepy. I bet his next move is to go out and get the same haircut as Tim (“I’ll have a Tim Blair cut please”)
Posted by Art Vandelay on 2005 03 16 at 01:46 AM • permalinkArt:
That’s my page that it redirects to. I wrote it up earlier because I thought it would be the best solution to the problem.
Posted by drscroogemcduck on 2005 03 16 at 02:04 AM • permalinkNo, Louis, it’s not cheeky. If you’re not using Firefox you probably don’t understand what’s happening.
If you follow Lambert’s instructions and bookmark the url for the “timblair haloscan comments”, then when you load Tim Blair’s site, you get TB’s real comments along with (directly underneath) Lambert’s Haloscan comment function. He’s effectively piggybacked his own comments function into another site.
This has gone beyond weird. It’s now in the realm of a serious legal issue.
Update: As I type this, I notice that the Lambert Haloscan comments functions has gone. Hmm, very interesting…
Hanyu: Each time you load the front page you need to click the bookmark to get the comment links. There is actually a firefox extension called greasemonkey that can automate this.
As far as I’m aware the bookmarklet is completely legal. Google’s new toolbar can also be set up to modify pages on the client side by automatically inserting useful links. (ie links to maps for addresses on a page). The bookmarklet performs a similar function but instead adds comment links that the user might consider “useful”.
I believe that because this is done on the client side and at the request of the client most of the legal issues disappear. (I am not a lawyer this is not legal advice.)
Posted by drscroogemcduck on 2005 03 16 at 02:23 AM • permalinkThis Lambert fellow is deeply closeted. Oh, well, at least he isn’t stalking freshmen on campus. But he’s still violating the copyright as long as he does not have Tim’s permission.
Posted by richard mcenroe on 2005 03 16 at 02:27 AM • permalinkAaaw, CL, that was fun! I liked ‘Tim Lancelet’
BTW, Lambert is also over at Tim Dunlop’s blog displaying what can be regarded as deep racism while denying the UN’s little affonts to civilised behaviour in Congo, Darfur etc. That, and this utterly bizarre behaviour in this case here, would make me concerned for his mental health were I his employer.
If anyone goes over to Tim Dunlop’s for a look at his UN post and comments, please play very nicely. Dunlop is a gentleman, his blog is excellent and thought-provoking, and he believes in rational and civil discourse. A genuine class act to follow.
MarkL
CanberraTim, if you believe this breaches your copyright please contact me and I’ll be happy to remove it. (This is a very murky area and I don’t want to be the one to find out whether it is ok or not.)
Contact to Tim Lambert is .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)
Now who is scrooge mcDuck really I wonder.
ok, i’d download a new web browser, cut and paste a URL into it while looking at tim blair’s front page just so i can read comments from david heidibugger and tim lamb-blurt but, as attractive as that sounds i dont want to. damn market forces…
Posted by Lucky Nutsacks on 2005 03 16 at 02:49 AM • permalinkWho cares ? That mirror site is obviously made of plastic.
Posted by Rachel Corrie's Flatmate on 2005 03 16 at 02:52 AM • permalinkHanyu:
I’m not Tim Lambert and I have no association with him online or in real life. Nor do I have access to UNSW’s legal department. I’m not travelling to another State to get a legal opinion.Posted by drscroogemcduck on 2005 03 16 at 03:12 AM • permalinkHow weird that whole thing was. Bespeaks of jealously and a lack on imagination on Tim Lambert’s part.
Shouldn’t he be concentrating on his thesis anyway. Bloody students, too much time on their hands.
The point has been made, but intellectualism and emotional intelligence are not the same thing.
Posted by Major Anya on 2005 03 16 at 03:51 AM • permalinkI offer my profound apologies, drscroogemcduck, for i) mistakenly referring to you as Mr Lambert; and ii) any problems this might have caused.
To the House of Sortelli - not to be trifled with; my apologies, too. Word from you that drscroogemcduck is a good sort is good enough for me.
I tell you, this whole thing has more twists, turns and psycho academics to keep the Margoid crowd up past midnight thinking how they can turn it to their advantage.
Kinda proves something, doesn’t it?
It proves that The Kingdom Of The Banned remains solidly in the Universe Of The Clueless, lead by Emperor Tim Lambert.
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2005 03 16 at 05:13 AM • permalinkWHO is Scrooge McDuck? For the love of God, man, GET SOME CULTURE!
Here he is!
Posted by Quentin George on 2005 03 16 at 05:21 AM • permalinkThat’s even worse, PW. Thanks for pointing that out.
Doesn’t he have classes to teach, tutorials to bore students with, papers to mark, students to have flings with etc etc?
We are always hearing about how much academics work.
Posted by Major Anya on 2005 03 16 at 05:39 AM • permalinkNoticing Hanyu’s obvious and easily made error assuming that Scrooge was who we thought it might have been, might have been avoided if scrooge had been a little informative. After all I too thought it was TL but then wondered over it and put in my last sentence.
Oh off topic but John Ray on Greeniewatch has latched on an “admission” on the real climate Mann site. heh heh.
Tim Blair, did you steal Tim Lambert’s play lunch in a past life? Were you his cruel and sadistic mother? The nasty man down the road who ate his dog?
If you answer yes to any of the above, then clearly the prick deserved it.Posted by SwinishCapitalist on 2005 03 16 at 06:18 AM • permalinkKen Parish was kindly referred by Tim here, and I followed the link, and made a comment.
Then deciding to see whether my comment was published, I discovered I had no access to the comments section. On any of his posts.
I know Rio Tinto regards De Beers as the Dark Side of the Force, but I had not realised I too had achieved such distinction.
Tim,
I think Ken Parish has handed you a poisoned chalice.
Just in case no-one noticed, Tim Lambert publicly announced his effort where super-brains gather - scroll down to comment number 37. Great minds ...
TIM D’LOP’s BLOG (Tasted it - see below)
“Come on guys - if you get that the IRA’s summary justice is to be condemned, it shouldn’t be such a leap to figure out that torture deserves the same unreserved condemnation, should it?”
This is Tim Dunlop’s teaser. The IRA is a terrorist organisation, and is the major impediment to peace in Ireland. Of course they are to be condemned for having people in their ranks who do things like kill McCartney. The greater condemnation, coming after the offer of higher authorities in the organisation to kill those thugs who did that killing, is in no way diminished by failure to condemn torture of islamic terrorists. If torture it is, and not just obfuscation in a legal and publicity seeking context.
What Tim D is doing here is failing to admit that, while both terrorist groups deserve extreme sanction (the Irish and the “hiding behind no fixed abode or nation-state Islamics”.), there is a difference.
The IRA are criminals within their own society and the damage they do there, while appalling, is in a clear way subject to the laws of the land. They should be dealt with harshly. There is no confusion regarding their nationality, the land they exist in, or the laws relating to their actions.
There is a great possibility that people like this will be caught, particularly as the support of the populace wanes and whistle blowers proliferate.
International Terrorism such as we face today is not easily dealt with by normal legal channels. There have been plenty of examples of failures of legal systems to deliver justice.
We are faced with one lucid legal anomaly now, as our citizen Chappelle Corby could be judicially murdered if convicted of smuggling cannabis into Indonesia. At the same time the Mr Big of Indonesian terrorism faces a light sentence for being a major pusher of hate and evil mass murder of our citizens in Bali.
I happily say to Tim D that if hurting a terrorist in order to get information out of him works, then I support hurting the terrorist. If it is done just to be a bastard and to no good result, I would say it is regrettable, but when things are being done by these terrorist groups which traduce, subvert and trash norms of civilised behaviour, then watch out. I don’t want to see us ruled by political correctness when the game being played is Survival.
This sort of thing is very time consuming - I am busy and don’t really have the time for additional lectures. So, I will stick to Tim Blair, thanks all the same.What’s really pathetic about this whole thing is the bogus idea that I am somehow stifling the “free speech” of Lambert’s saddoes by not allowing them to comment here. There is nothing on earth to keep Lambert or anyone else from saying whatever they please about anything on this or any other site the old-fashioned way thusly: by posting on their own blog, with suitable quotes, and saying “this is what I think, anyone else care to comment?” followed by an open comments box. In fact, many of these people have their own blogs. But since this particular blog isn’t run to their liking (i.e., as their own personal soapbox/urinal) they’d rather engage in petty activities like this. Pointless and stupid, and I can hardly think the possible slight increase in hits to Lambert’s own blog was worth this humiliating revelation of his character. And yes, if any “rightwinger” ever did this I’d be down on him with both feet in cleated boots.
Posted by Andrea Harris, Administrator on 2005 03 16 at 07:53 AM • permalinkAndrea, I liken this attitude of those fools to that of a spoil brat throwing a tantrum. I certainly can’t think of any other suitable description of their silly behavior.
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2005 03 16 at 08:44 AM • permalinkPhoto Gallery
Tim Lambert for a serious but brief moment interupts his mission to destroy conservative blogs for a candid photo.
Here’s were it all began. Lefty Lambert decides to graduate with a touch of class.
-note the footwear and welding glasses.Posted by Hank Reardon on 2005 03 16 at 09:31 AM • permalinkIf ever a right-winger tries to pull the same dumb stunt on a lefty, well, let me condemn you in advance.
Oh, yeah? Well I was just over at the Webdiary parody page at the SMH and… oh, wait a minute…
Posted by richard mcenroe on 2005 03 16 at 10:20 AM • permalinkHbib! Use the formatting buttons! It puts in the correct code.
Posted by Andrea Harris, Administrator on 2005 03 16 at 11:43 AM • permalinkWe had a run-in with Lambert a while back. Read about it here.
Posted by Posse Incitatus on 2005 03 16 at 12:11 PM • permalinkJeeze, Hank, that’s what I call a dork’s dork! Thanks for letting us know what he looks like
Posted by Susan Norton on 2005 03 16 at 12:37 PM • permalink“Ethical academic”... is that anything like an “employable intellectual?”
Posted by richard mcenroe on 2005 03 16 at 03:31 PM • permalink#118, It wouldn’t be nearly so funny if he didn’t look so self-satified with his dorkyness.
Posted by JorgXMcKie on 2005 03 16 at 06:22 PM • permalinkI think you’ve taken this assault way too lightly!
Typical of the Left who say they stand for free speech and a diversity of views, to try and sabotage a forum where the views expressed conflict with their own…TYPICAL HYPOCRISY!
They can’t possibly live up to the standards they expect of others, so the fact that they continue to take the moral highground on issues like this and get away with it is OUR failure!Brian, taking the moral high ground is more than trumpeting one’s “moral superiority”. It requires actions to demonstrate that.
Lambert clearly demonstrated his low morals with this stunt of hijacking tim’s blog. He violated copyright laws, infringed on tim’s income, and did so using his university’s network. And he did this merely because he thought tim and Andrea were crushing dissent (a typical whinge from those residing in the Kingdom Of The Banned). Worse, I understand it’s his second use of this harassment technique.
However, the lefties (in their typical “shout opinions until people accept them as facts” routine) ignore all of this. Because they are right, doncha know?!?!!?!? And if you don’t believe me, just ask them.
So taking the morale high ground is a slippery concept. I think we have the high ground. If nothing else, no one here pulled a similar stunt on Lambert. That alone speaks volumes for the RWDB and any “crushing of dissent”.
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2005 03 17 at 01:15 AM • permalinkPhoto Gallery 2
Tim Lambert looking dejected after his boss rips the power cord out to his office and calls him a f’ing wanker.
Lefty Lambert trots out his graduation sandals to perform a UNSW rendition of The Internationale.Posted by Hank Reardon on 2005 03 17 at 04:10 AM • permalinklol hank! so tim lamb-burt’s a five foot nothing over-weight balding ‘academic’ who has NO natural dancing ability eh? lambo needs to wear white socks with those ‘jesus sandals’ he’s wearing - would’nt want to get blisters would you now precious?
Posted by Lucky Nutsacks on 2005 03 17 at 04:30 AM • permalinkhere’s tim lamburt surfing the internets. he’s thinking ‘gosh!, that tim blair, why does he get all the all the attention! i have a PHP’!!CLIK! here’s lambo again at an internet cafe- he had to go there because his betters told him not to use the UNSW servers CLIK! .tim lamburt in his natural habitat…hi!, my name’s lambo the donkey! kick me please!!
Posted by Lucky Nutsacks on 2005 03 17 at 05:10 AM • permalinkHi, Tim. I followed a link from Tim Lambert’s site, to see things from your site.
I’m not a troll, I really am not, I just think that what Lambert writes on the Lancet study seems pretty solid....
(I wonder if the admins will delete this comment. Not that I mind, I’ve given my consent for my message to be edited or deleted for any reason)
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Also, I’ve read Lambert’s account of going ons at this message board, and I can (sort of) understand why he would set up a public forum to discuss your posts, if what he writes is indeed true. And since the moderator called Andrea does indeed compare some posts to urine right above me in this thread, I wonder, why the vitriol? Can you give me some links to show your side of the story as to his banning?
Yours truly, Vintermann.
Posted by Vintermann on 2005 03 17 at 01:45 PM • permalinkUse the search function available on the main page, vintermann. Look for “Lancet” or “riots” or “Iraq.” Eventually you’ll get the gist of things; or you won’t, not my problem either way.
Posted by Andrea Harris, Administrator on 2005 03 17 at 09:33 PM • permalinkVinterman, the Lancet study has been shredded many times. They cherry pick base death rate data in a dishonest way. There is no reason to think its sampling valid and the bias and political motivations of its authors are well documented as well. But the reality is that the Lancet study actually Fisks itself when its only admitted range of 95% confidence is from 8,000 to 194,000. That alone demonstrates that its crap.
Lambert knows its crap but continues to defend it. This tells us much about Lambert but nothing we don’t already know.
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Tim - not only should you leave it for a while, you should mirror the mirror…which would then link back to the original. Then we could all enjoy Infinitely Recursive Tim Blair. Now that’s imperialism, baby.
BTW - first post. Booyah!