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Miklós Zágoni isn’t just a physicist and environmental researcher. He is also a global warming activist and Hungary’s most outspoken supporter of the Kyoto Protocol. Or was.
Read on.
He was able to publish the results of his testing of his theory in Hungary, but not in the U.S. by NASA, because of the political climate that drives funding. And people wonder why I throw such a fit about government funding of science. It’s a foot in the door for the regulators who thrive on precedent. In this case, the power grabbing politics of climate change overrules any science that isn’t a result of government largess. All the rest are mere puppets of evil profit-seeking corporations and cannot be trusted—but the government can.
I don’t know what it is that government has done that makes so many in the population think they ought to be in the business of thinking for the rest of us, but I cannot find the facts that back the theory.
“How did modern researchers make such a mistake? They relied upon equations derived over 80 years ago, equations which left off one term from the final solution.”
Oops
“Currently, funding for climate research tops $5 billion per year.”
Please may I have some?
greenhouse theory is “200 year old science”
Gore is that old?
Posted by stackja1945 on 2008 03 10 at 06:13 AM • permalink“Runaway greenhouse theories contradict energy balance equations,” Miskolczi states. Just as the theory of relativity sets an upper limit on velocity, his theory sets an upper limit on the greenhouse effect, a limit which prevents it from warming the Earth more than a certain amount.
This makes complete sense.
Posted by wronwright on 2008 03 10 at 06:14 AM • permalinkIn spite of this, there really is no reason we shouldn’t elect Obama as the US President and allow him to carry through with his promise to cut greenhouse gasses by 90% by 2050. Most likely by way of transferring American manufacturing to China, India, and other developing countries, all of which have no intention of cutting greenhouse gasses. Ever.
Posted by wronwright on 2008 03 10 at 06:19 AM • permalink#7 Make China, India, and other developing countries, richer. We must be charitable even if poorer.
Posted by stackja1945 on 2008 03 10 at 06:37 AM • permalinkNASA refused to release the results. Miskolczi believes their motivation is simple. “Money”, he tells DailyTech. Research that contradicts the view of an impending crisis jeopardizes funding, not only for his own atmosphere-monitoring project, but all climate-change research. Currently, funding for climate research tops $5 billion per year.
Within the Federal buearuacracy, that amount of money is a significant portion of the budget for an entire agency.
Worth lying for? In the eyes of some, you betcha!
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2008 03 10 at 06:55 AM • permalinkI’m sure he’s getting paid off by Evil Big Oil.
Posted by Mr. Bingley on 2008 03 10 at 06:56 AM • permalink#9
Is it the physics of electromagnetic fields? The earth maybe bi-polar.Posted by stackja1945 on 2008 03 10 at 06:59 AM • permalinkReading those calculations there is only one possible response: well, obviously!
Posted by Tony.T.Teacher on 2008 03 10 at 06:59 AM • permalinkThis idea of CO2 saturation based on global conformity to the second law of thermodynamics has a number of adherents, with any warming being limited to delays in outbound radiation via photon emission; it differs from another school of thought which bases saturation on column spectroscopic effects with Beer’s Law’s linear absorption exponentially declined at successive layers. Zagoni’s theory seems to be of the former type.
I don’t like expletitives, but AGW is fucked. I attended a conference with La Nina/El Nino expert, Stewart Franks, who demonstrated that the climate patterns of the 20thC were entirely due to the Interdecadal Pacific Oscillation interaction with the Ninos as a manifestation of Schwabe cycles.#13 #14 #15
Yes obvious!
Although Beer absorption maybe questioned.Posted by stackja1945 on 2008 03 10 at 07:32 AM • permalinkI was working on my Beer Absorption this weekend.
Posted by Mr. Bingley on 2008 03 10 at 07:54 AM • permalinkOkay everybody,Stop Breathing!
Quotesay scientists who have just published studies indicating that it would require the world to cease carbon emissions altogether within a matter of decades.
Or at least, Stop Exhaling you selfish bastids!!
Do these people even read what they’re writing?
Being liberal means never having to say you’re sorry. It would be redundant to do so.
Don’t worry about their finances, though. They’ll come up with another
scamtheory to scare the masses. Hollywood needs a new cause.Posted by Deborah Leigh on 2008 03 10 at 05:26 PM • permalink“Currently, funding for climate research tops $5 billion per year”
But at what environmental cost?! For every $5 bn of GDP, about 915,000 metric tons of nasty greenhouse gas are emitted.
Save the planet: End climate research funding now!
Posted by arrowhead ripper on 2008 03 10 at 06:34 PM • permalinkOK - let’s not get too carried away.
I am about as sceptical as they come on human caused warming, but this is just another scientist with a model using imprecise data.
If the model does better reflect real world observations than other models then yippee. But as it stands, we can’t accurately predict next month’s rainfall let alone temps in ten years time and that is using the biggest computers in the world.
That poor bastard is going to have a rough time getting any sort of realistic funding to prove up his equations. Let alone valuable time on superputers.
#12 I believe Navier-Stokes is the solution to three-dimensional vector fields, of any sort.
Posted by Wimpy Canadian on 2008 03 10 at 08:34 PM • permalinkAnother thing un-attributed to global warming:
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/rtrs/20080311/tpl-uk-britain-floods-report-f7fdc02.html
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