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I wonder if ABC-defending, Bush-hating, warmy-howling, Blair-obsessing, motorbike-lovin’ Queensland journalist Wayne Sanderson has ever met ABC-defending, Bush-hating, warmy-howling, Blair-obsessing, motorbike-lovin’ Queensland journalist (and constant Catallaxy commenter) “MichaelF”?
Seems they have a lot in common. Although “MichaelF”, who is big on journalistic ethics, would presumably never stoop to lifting NYT columns and selling them at his own website.
UPDATE. It’s almost as though these two chaps are related:
• Wayne: “What about ‘only a few bad apples on one night’ involved with torture ...”
• MichaelF: “He reckoned ... that Abu Ghraib was the work of a few bad apples on the night shift ...”
• Email from Wayne, August 2005: “Your biggest fuck-up: Abu Gahraib abuse wasn’t so bad, only happened on one night, few bad apples.”
• MichaelF: “[Blair wrote] that Abu Gahraib was the work of a couple of bad apples on one Saturday night shift.”
In terms of the direct quote, Mike and Wayne might be getting me mixed up with an unnamed someone once cited by Andrew Sullivan.
UPDATE II. More shared thoughts from Wayne and/or Mike:
• MichaelF: “Blair wrote about the Johannesburg Earth Summit in a column for The Australian, in September 2002. In it, he made the bold prediction that environmentalism was dead.”
• Email from Wayne, August 2005: “You said ‘environmentalism is dead’”.
• MichaelF: “He told Oz readers in a column (around 2003) that ‘environomentalism was dead’”.
I wish it was; I hate environomentalism. But here’s what I actually wrote (link to original column no longer available): “Call me an optimist, but signs of wonderful green death seem to be appearing all over.” This time Wayne (or Mike; or Wayne and Mike; or Loudon WayneMike III) has me confused with Nick Kristof.
UPDATE III. Say what you will, neither Wayne nor Mike are feckless:
• MichaelF: “Did the Bushies miss the warnings and fail to do enough to stop the 9/11 attacks. Of course they feckin’ did.”
• Wayne: “Jeesus Tim, your feckin’ hypocrisy knows no bounds.”
• MichaelF: “They are not a bloody PhD paper where every feckin’ word has to be weighed for its precise meaning.”
UPDATE IV. Catallaxians discuss their imaginative inhabitant.
UPDATE V. Wayne - booted from Crikey (!) in 2006 - is listed as a Queensland government employee, which explains why he has so much time on his hands. He’s - ahem - a “multicultural advocacy manager”. (Via Rog.)
Shhhh! Be vewwy vewwy quiet! We’re hunting sockpuppets.
Posted by Spiny Norman on 2008 03 16 at 12:17 PM • permalinkJeebus, they sound identical. Well spotted, Tim.
Posted by skepticlawyer on 2008 03 16 at 12:31 PM • permalinkFrom MichaelF:
“The guy [Tim Blair] is a jerk, with less morals than an alley-cat. His (heavily monitored and moderated) site has profited by giving succour and comfort to every bigot, racist and brain-dead pig-fucker under the sun.”
A formidable opponent, Tim. He’s obviously a man of wide learning, a wielder of subtle yet penetrating logic, and a human data bank of indisputable facts. Or he could be an internet crank, a dime-a-dozen cylinder filled with toxic gas siphoned off the left wing fever swamps. It’s just so hard to tell, these days.
BTW, Tim, this guy claims to have had “beers” with you; I assume he he made a bee-line to the bathroom when the barkeep brought the tab?
Wayne Sanderson took me to lunch a few years back (2005? 2006?) - said he was a researcher with Australian Story. Was incredibly polite and sucky, telling me how great he thought I was. No wonder he had to use a pseud over at Catallaxy.
Did he ever work for Aus Story?
Posted by skepticlawyer on 2008 03 16 at 12:36 PM • permalink#4 Paco, Wayne once turned up at a Brisbane writers’ fest where I was the token sensible person and had a drink in the carpark afterwards. He seemed a little hurt that I wouldn’t join him later for further drinks.
“MichaelF” also claims that I once put the moves on Margo Kingston. Small problem: we’ve never met.
#6 paco
Nah, I think it is Wayne’s exercise in exploring his inner (foul-mouthed, feral) child.
It’s theraputic, don’t you see?
:^þ
Posted by Spiny Norman on 2008 03 16 at 12:47 PM • permalink#7 Tim
“MichaelF” also claims that I once put the moves on Margo Kingston.
o_O
Posted by Spiny Norman on 2008 03 16 at 12:49 PM • permalinkHere he is putting Jason on the spot over his sockpuppet:
http://catallaxyfiles.com/?p=2613
Classic
Posted by skepticlawyer on 2008 03 16 at 01:09 PM • permalinkIf you dig into the thread (and it’s painful, but worth it). some of the other posters are asking MichealF “Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?”
For example (can’t link for some odd reason):
jimmythespiv
Said this on February 4th, 2008 at 12:01am:“He’s a coward and a glass-jawed bully who has supported every vile and failed policy imaginable ”
Mick, you’re a Keatingesque swineherd.
Blair is the only journo I know that is prepared to debate anyone, anywhere, anytime. And I know heaps of (big named) journos who respect hime for that (incliding leftish oriented ones).
You toad !
And it’s certainly not in favor of MichaelF to have Tim Lambert and fatfingers jump in on his side.
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2008 03 16 at 01:30 PM • permalinkI’m a bigoted, racist, brain-dead pig-fucker?
*snif* That hurts.
Posted by carpefraise on 2008 03 16 at 01:35 PM • permalinkHuh! You all made that thread sound so alluring, so mysteriously interesting;
so breathy-voiced and big-eyed I popped over to see what all the snarling was about.Now I need to detox. Thanks a bunch!
Posted by carpefraise on 2008 03 16 at 02:03 PM • permalinkGrimmy, that depends on what MichaelF’s definition of “sex” is.
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2008 03 16 at 02:35 PM • permalinkAnd isn’t great how MichaelF throws around accusations of racism at Tim and us Blairites, but readily uses phrases like “poor white trash”?
Hypocrisy, thy name is MichaelF. Amongst others.
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2008 03 16 at 02:38 PM • permalinkHere he is bucketing CL and accusing other commenters of ‘stalking’:
http://catallaxyfiles.com/?p=3457
And here he is sticking up for his intellectual twin, Phat Phil:
http://catallaxyfiles.com/?p=3182
http://catallaxyfiles.com/?p=3142
Posted by skepticlawyer on 2008 03 16 at 02:59 PM • permalink#5 “Did he ever work for Aus Story?”
According to Wayne himself, writing in 2006, he “worked briefly for Australian Story a decade ago.”
MichaelF writes about Tim:
“and most of all, he is always, always wrong.”
Now that’s a rare talent. Always wrong, eh? Tim, I want you to start listing numbers that you think will be in next thursday’s Powerball draw. By a process of elimination (crossing off any numbers that you give) I will deduce the correct numbers and win millions.Posted by daddy dave on 2008 03 16 at 04:34 PM • permalinkFor your reading pleasure from the Australian.
Crikey dumps the dumper
WAYNE Sanderson, Crikey’s Brisbane correspondent, made it his mission to clumsily bag The Australian and its Queensland correspondent, Hedley Thomas, over coverage of the ongoing “Dr Death” Jayant Patel affair. We thought it worth reporting that Sanderson has been proved so wrong, he is no longer writing for Crikey. So it seems Thomas has two scalps: the attorney-general, Linda Lavarch, who resigned last week, and Sanderson.
Posted by Sinclair Davidson on 2008 03 16 at 04:52 PM • permalink#18 if you’re prepared to deny everything, then so am I.
Posted by daddy dave on 2008 03 16 at 05:08 PM • permalink#26
Being sacked from Crikey for a lack of accuracy is like being too loopy to contribute to webdiary - an impressive achievement.
Posted by Margos Maid on 2008 03 16 at 05:35 PM • permalinkHe is nasty, vicious, unfair, unbalanced, abusive
He says that like it’s a bad thing.
Posted by Andrea Harris, Administrator on 2008 03 16 at 05:50 PM • permalinkCan Wayne Sanderson get any more pathetic?
The message over at his “The Daily Briefing” website promises his subscribers that The Daily Briefing will be back up and running in 2 weeks. Only one problem though, that message has been there for about the last 10 months.
Tim, by posting this you put yourself in the same position as Adam Smith (“He wrote that because I implied he was a liar, incompetent and useless that he would “at this stage of preceedings like to ask [me] outside to settle things the old fashioned way.”). Don’t be surprised if Wayne now challenges you to a fist fight.
Posted by Hank Reardon on 2008 03 16 at 05:55 PM • permalinkHeres some pics from the last “meet a lefty” BBQ held at RWDB central. It demonstrates that pigs arent the only white meat…
Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2008 03 16 at 06:17 PM • permalinkO/T but I hope this proves correct.
Wreckage of HMAS Sydney locatedMy grandmother was near the battle and was present when the survivors of the Kormeran were brought ashore (near little or lucky bay). The Aussie soldiers who were present told her “the Sydneys gone”.
Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2008 03 16 at 06:23 PM • permalink#32: This morning’s TV headlines are shouting “SYDNEY FOUND”, but the news items under the headlines are saying only that the Kormoran has been found and that the Sydney is likely to be found nearby.
It seems that Mr Rudd isexposing himselfcovering himself in glory a bit prematurely on this one.
Either that or our Fearless Leader knows more than is being released to the media and he is saving it up for something special.33. My guess is they are about 90% sure they have the Sydney but are still confirming. They had sone pretty good sets of navigation as to the last direction the boat was seen going off in.
The smarmy waxgobbler would be announcing a car door opening if he thought it “sounded good”.Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2008 03 16 at 07:16 PM • permalinkHis (heavily monitored and moderated) site has profited by giving succour and comfort to every bigot, racist and brain-dead pig-fucker under the sun
Correction. All the pigs I’ve had sexual relations with have been highly educated. And we made love. Sweet love. Watch your tongue, mister.
Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2008 03 16 at 07:27 PM • permalink#30: “Don’t be surprised if Wayne now challenges you to a fist fight.”
It’s nine o’clock outside of Tim Blair’s house. A pizza delivery boy sprints up to Tim’s front door and raises a hand to knock on the door. Before his knuckles can make contact, an enormous gloved hand, approximately the size of a grizzly bear paw, grabs the boy’s wrist. The startled young fellow looks to his right and sees a large, stocky man, wearing a gray fedora pulled down low and a blue pinstriped double-breasted suit, complemented by a retro necktie and a white silk handkerchief. His face sports a five o’clock shadow (he looks like the sort of man whose five o’clock shadow starts coming on at about two-thirty). A conversation ensues.
Man: What ya got there, sonny?
Boy (Gulping noisily): Crikey, misteh! It’s just a pizza!
Man: Say, Solly; that look like a pizza to you?
Another man steps out of the shadows to the boy’s left. He looks so much like the other bloke that they might be bookends on somebody’s shelf of Raymond Chandler novels.
Solly: Open ‘er up, kid.
Boy (Opening the lid of the box): See?
Solly: Whaddaya think, Tony?
Tony: Smells like puke. Yeh. I guess it’s pizza. (Knocks on door: two raps – pause – three raps).
(The door is opened by yet another fine-tailored gorilla – this one smoking a cigarette).
Solly: Say, Al; this kid’s deliverin’ a pizza. Did Mr. Blair order one?
Al (Blows smoke in the kid’s face): Be kinda strange if he did, seein’ as how he just wolfed down two plates of wombat stew and three slices a’ coconut cake.
Boy (Eyes running from smoke): Heh, heh! Sorry, mates; I think maybe I got the wrong house.
Al: I wouldn’t be surprised, kid, I wouldn’t be surprised at all. Run along, now, sonny. (pulls a double-sawbuck out of his pocket and hands it to the kid). Here’s for yer trouble. And you can leave the pizza. I ain’t much for wombat stew, myself.
The delivery boy walks slowly down the sidewalk. A loud “Psssst!” issues from the boxwood bushes by the street.
Boy: Oh! It’s you, Mr. Sanderson!
Sanderson: Where’s Blair? I gave you ten bucks to keep his door open long enough for me to jump him, you little bastard! You were supposed to whistle; you never whistled. What happened?
Boy (Glances at the twenty in his hand, and smiles at Sanderson): He couldn’t leave the door open, Mr. Sanderson; he was in his pajamas. But all you’ve got to do is knock: two raps – pause for a second – then three more raps. Then you’ll get it – er, I mean, then you’ll get him.
SL that aus story thing just sounds creepy, lol.
Posted by cyclosarin on 2008 03 16 at 07:56 PM • permalinkMichaelF” also claims that I once put the moves on Margo Kingston.
The Big Lie theory blown out of the water.
Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2008 03 16 at 08:32 PM • permalink#1
This reminds me about the word “facist” by those leftist who cannot spell Fascist. The word Fascist derives from fasces for ancient Roman symbolic rods. A rod of iron for the back of the Left? The word faeces probably is better used to describe the left.
Leftists do not like “facists” who insist on facts.Posted by stackja1945 on 2008 03 16 at 08:58 PM • permalinkCreepy and really weird, cyclosarin. Not sure what he was trying to achieve, not sure I really want to think about it, either…
Posted by skepticlawyer on 2008 03 16 at 09:36 PM • permalinkThe message over at his “The Daily Briefing” website promises his subscribers that The Daily Briefing will be back up and running in 2 weeks.
That would make it “The Fortnightly Daily Briefing” then.
Posted by daddy dave on 2008 03 16 at 11:05 PM • permalinkI wonder if both their ISPs are Brazilian. BTW, good day to you, sir.
Posted by andycanuck on 2008 03 16 at 11:32 PM • permalinkLink is busted, Habib, and I’d actually like to see it ;)
Posted by skepticlawyer on 2008 03 16 at 11:36 PM • permalinkDon’t be sendin’ yer pig-fuckers my way, Sanderson - they won’t be comin’ back the same shape they went out.
Posted by SwinishCapitalist on 2008 03 17 at 12:16 AM • permalinkI made a move on Margo… and was knocked back.
Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2008 03 17 at 12:20 AM • permalinkGot it, Habib - had to change browser. Looks ‘interesting…’
Posted by skepticlawyer on 2008 03 17 at 12:53 AM • permalink“The guy [Tim Blair] is a jerk, with less morals than an alley-cat. His (heavily monitored and moderated) site has profited by giving succour and comfort to every bigot, racist and brain-dead pig-fucker under the sun.”
I resent the pig-fucker remark. I’ve never even met this guy’s mother, much less had sex with her.
Posted by Dave Surls on 2008 03 17 at 02:25 AM • permalink‘“MichaelF” also claims that I once put the moves on Margo Kingston.’
MichaelF seems to be obsessed with the idea of male humans having sexual encounters with porcine life forms.
Posted by Dave Surls on 2008 03 17 at 02:46 AM • permalinkTim,
I’d be prepared to wager a decent sum that Sanderson has setup yet another sockpuppet over at Catallaxy. If “Tillman” isn’t Sanderson I’d be very surprised.
Posted by Hank Reardon on 2008 03 17 at 08:50 AM • permalink#63
The name rings a bell. Pat Tillman.I sometimes wonder how many incarnations some of the people in blogs use.
Has Tillman ever conversed with Michaelf on the blog?
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More evidence - as if any more was needed - that leftism is a brain wasting disease.
Again, anything a lefty accuses a rightie of being, is exactly what they are themselves: Fascist, Hitler, liar, whatever.