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Following Webdiary’s latest gullibility episode, Bryan Law provides the usual fake but true defence:
It doesn’t really matter who wrote the speech. It’s an important public speech and it needs to be aired. Congratulations all.
Facts never matter to hoaxed lefties. Here’s Barbra Streisand after she’d fallen for a Shakespeare fraud:
It doesn’t detract from the fact that the words themselves are powerful and true and beautifully written.
The words are true! Similarly, Professor Juan Cole:
The story of the interlibrary loan request for Mao’s Little Red Book that produced an interview by the Department of Homeland Security turns out to be a hoax.
However, it is one of those hoaxes that bespeaks a reality ...
And Jeff Alworth:
Whether or not the turkey was fake has little bearing on its purpose as metaphor ...
Spoken on behalf of the reality-based community.
Facts are Oppression! Facts be damned! It’s our personal “truths” that matter!
*cuckoo!*BTW, today was to be the Patchouli Putsch. Too bad they chickened out.
Posted by Spiny Norman on 2006 03 15 at 01:03 PM • permalinkFacts never matter to hoaxed lefties.
Or hoaxing lefties.
Of course, we’re pedantically talking about facts, which really are insignificant compared to the Truth.
We hide-bound RWDBs have an antiquated view of Truth as a structure, with facts as bricks and reason as mortar. Lefties are too sophisticated for such blue-collar imagery. The Truth just is, man, and you can’t let prosaic shit like “facts” interfere with it.
“Facts”? What are these “facts” that you speak of? Everything is relative, nothing is absolute.
/channeling leftie.
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2006 03 15 at 01:44 PM • permalinkAllow me to Spike this list:
“‘Here’s the thing,’ [Spike Lee] said. ‘Even today, a large part of the African-American community of New Orleans thinks that those levees were bombed. Now, whether that is true or not, that should not be discounted.’
Posted by Ed Driscoll on 2006 03 15 at 02:05 PM • permalinkThe Truth just is, man, and you can’t let prosaic shit like “facts” interfere with it.
—Dave S.
There’s a world of difference between truth and facts.
Facts can obscure truth.—Maya Angelou
Posted by Kyda Sylvester on 2006 03 15 at 03:40 PM • permalinkEd: No, that’s different, actually.
Assuming I’m reading Lee right, he’s saying that the fact that people believe the levees were bombed matters, whether or not they are correct in that belief.
And that’s true. People believing a false thing does matter (possibly more than if they believe the truth!), because if nothing else it affects what else they’ll believe and how they’ll act, given their belief.
#7 ushie,
Oh, yeah, Spiny Norman, it is the Ides of March.
The date was chosen intentionally, I’m certain. Were the barking moonbats hoping for their own Sic semper tyrannis! moment? Heh, until they realized the Secret Service is armed.
Posted by Spiny Norman on 2006 03 15 at 04:26 PM • permalinkDude, truth is, like, a social construct, man. ‘Kay?
Posted by Steve Skubinna on 2006 03 15 at 04:46 PM • permalinkRC Dean,
However, whenever I hear someone say they believe stories such as the bombing of the levees, or that the CIA introduced both AIDS and crack cocaine into the USA in order to decimate the black population, I know one thing for sure: I’m talking to an idiot and his opinions and arguments aren’t worth listening to.
Posted by David Crawford on 2006 03 15 at 05:21 PM • permalink#10 Sigivald: that’s my take too. And more so—what led to a society where a large segment of people are willing to believe such a rediculous thing and how do we go about correcting a problem like that? How do we stop large numnbers of people from embracing such conspiracy theories?
(I have no idea if Spike’s assertion is true. This is the first I’ve hear that people think the levees were bombed.)
Posted by tim maguire on 2006 03 15 at 06:31 PM • permalinkLooking at Margo’s picture—is she related to Barry McKenzie?
Posted by Blithering Bunny on 2006 03 15 at 06:35 PM • permalinkDon’t forget Brit Daily Mirror editor Piers Morgan. After photos in the paper of troops maltreating Iraqi prisoners were found to have been faked, he said they “accurately illustrated the reality about the appalling conduct of some British troops.”
The Boston Globe published a picture of US troops supposedly gang raping an Iraqi prisoner that turned out to be a still from a Hungarian porn movie. The Globe semi-apologized, but published first. No one was fired. And so it goes.Posted by arrowhead ripper on 2006 03 15 at 07:02 PM • permalinkAnd a reverse case. True but fake, featuring George Clooney and HuffPo:
http://tinyurl.com/en6cyPosted by andycanuck on 2006 03 15 at 08:33 PM • permalinkUPDATE! UPDATE! UPDATE!
The apparently cancelled Patchouli Putsch has been rescheduled for this coming Saturday, March 20th. Mark your calendars, folks, hilarious moonbattery is a given!
Posted by Spiny Norman on 2006 03 15 at 08:42 PM • permalinkBest Leftie lie ever: The Soviet Union couldn’t feed itself because of (year you were lying minus 1917) years of “bad weather”! Hoo hoo!
Cockamamie collectivization schemes = no factor in mass starvation.
Heck we were even giving these jokers wheat in the ‘70s when Carter wanted to surrender to them!
Posted by Vanguard of the Commentariat on 2006 03 15 at 09:33 PM • permalinkBest Leftie lie ever: The Soviet Union couldn’t feed itself because of (year you were lying minus 1917) years of “bad weather”! Hoo hoo!
I disagree. The best leftie lie ever has to be “no one’s ever tried communism/socialism/marxism”.
Posted by Rob Crawford on 2006 03 15 at 10:20 PM • permalink27. Good one Rob, that is a classic “Progressive” whopper. I reckon Pol Pot had to have taken some of the starch out of it though, for all but the truest believers (Chomsky et al).
Posted by Vanguard of the Commentariat on 2006 03 15 at 10:27 PM • permalinkThe Right doesn’t even have to try anymore when there’s whack-jobs like these freaks running around claiming “It’s not true, but it should be!”
You can only hope there’s an agent-provocatuer element to such insanity, as in, “I’ll say I’m a Leftie and then act like a complete reality-starved maniac to scare off potential Lefties!”
Posted by LeftieLatteLover on 2006 03 15 at 10:41 PM • permalinkUnfortunately, “act(ing) like a complete reality-starved maniac” doesn’t usually “scare off potential Lefties!” It draws them like flies to fresh shit.
Posted by JorgXMcKie on 2006 03 16 at 01:01 AM • permalinkWhy would you need to get a copy of the Little Red Book through interlibrary loan anyway? Wouldn’t any library have at least a couple of copies (let alone a university library, which I seem to recall was the sort of library in question).
Posted by Sarah Brabazon-Biggar on 2006 03 16 at 01:01 AM • permalinkSpiny Norman
Any chance of a lovely union of far right and left in the same area? Burquas and rainbow flags? Full beardy weirdys and midriff tops on aging hippies?Blairs law in action.
Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2006 03 16 at 01:18 AM • permalinkLLL,
You have to admit that the wing-nut, out there, totally whacked-out conspiroid left occupies a hell of a lot more ground on the left than does the comparable thought does on the right.
My gosh, I’m amazed that the left gets any sleep at night, so afraid of the CIA that they are. The left today (in their fear of the omnipotent powers of the CIA) is no different than the far-right wingers had of the communists in the 1960’s. In the 1960’s, the far right blamed everything bad that happened on a communist plot, today the left blames everyhting bad that happens on the CIA.
Posted by David Crawford on 2006 03 16 at 05:51 AM • permalink#24 The apparently cancelled Patchouli Putsch has been rescheduled for this coming Saturday, March 20th. Mark your calendars, folks, hilarious moonbattery is a given!—Spiny Norman
Ok, I’ll admit it. I want to join them, just for fun. I can even see myself speaking, bringing them to a frothing point just before shouting GO, CHARGE THE NEOCON BASTARDS!
And then, retreating to the shade of a nice cherry blossum tree to watch the carnage. Yes, I admit it, I really am evil. I’ve come to accept it. (If I lived in the Middle Ages, I probably would have watched the Children’s Crusade).
Posted by wronwright on 2006 03 16 at 07:14 AM • permalinkOn the other hand, I could well imagine the crowd of purported leftwing loonies actually being principally comprised of neocon minions there for a lark. People like paco, Stoop Davy Dave, Dave S, MarkL, and Michael Lonie. Yes, I could see it, me shouting like a Boshelvek, screaming to charge the White House!!!, take back the power!!!, and hearing voices of agreement back from the minions.
But when it came time to charge, all but a few cannon fodder lefties, just stay back watching for the ensuing excitement. And then it would next be five minutes of paco trying to extoll SDD to charge, the latter doing the same to Michael Lonie. And then we all throw up our hands and give a big shout of laughter.
No, I suppose I better clean out my garage instead.
Posted by wronwright on 2006 03 16 at 07:21 AM • permalinkUm, you mightnt have been yet but i think karl has you pencilled in for at least one of the crusades next week. thats the problem with the tardis trips, you run into people you are meeting again for the first time.
Does that mean Lenin was a neo con, after all he spent a lot of time being “too important” to risk his neck while others lost theirs.
I also remember that flogbag “street fighting man” having the same excuse.Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2006 03 16 at 07:57 AM • permalink#21. Don’t forget Newsweek’s version of reporting, “Koran stuffed down toilet” lie. People died as a consequence. Newsweek admitted later story was not true, no one was fired.
I never saw any “Newsweek lied, People died” bumper stickers, nor any condemnation from the craven Democratic pols in the USA.
This is just one of so many instances of false reporting by the MSM that it would not be possible to list them all in any space available on the blogs. The New York Times’ criminal reporting would fill several large volumes. (Just look at its corrections list buried deep within its pages, starting with yesterday’s paper. But don’t buy the worthless sheets! I get them from my fish dealer who wraps his merchandise in it.)Stats — I had a picket sign that read just that. The MoveOnBots seemed displeased by it.
Posted by richard mcenroe on 2006 03 16 at 10:30 AM • permalink#37, ‘Flogbag’. Another triumph of new wordery. Briliant.
Posted by LeftieLatteLover on 2006 03 16 at 12:40 PM • permalinkfrom Spiny’s (#24) link:
We Don’t Do Anything Until They Stop the Killing & Mass Imprisonment. No Work, No School, No TV, No Shopping.
So they’re planning to sit the fuck down and shut the fuck up, forever, then? Excellent! What’s the problem?
Destabilize the U.S. Economy the way war criminals Destabilize the World.
Is that how it’s done? U.S. war criminals Destabilize the World by staying home and doing nothing? Interesting method ...
Posted by Stoop Davy Dave on 2006 03 16 at 02:54 PM • permalink#44, being hauled away by Rove’s death squads is not the most important issue.
Will anyone notice when they’re gone? Will anyone even care?
No TV…No Shopping…“I’ve turned off the OC and I’m not buying anymore dread shampoo!”
Now that’s personal sacrfice.
Posted by LeftieLatteLover on 2006 03 16 at 08:00 PM • permalink
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