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Sheik Feiz Mohamed, Australia’s most influential firebrand cleric, has a starring role in the Channel 4 documentary “Dispatches: Undercover Mosque” (aired this week in the UK). Take a look.

Behind him in that footage is an Australian website address for the Global Islamic Youth Centre, where one may buy the Sheik’s latest selection of audio lectures. Their title? The “Death Series”. Enjoy!

(Noted earlier at Thin Man Returns and LGF)

UPDATE. The Daily Telegraph:

Sydney’s most influential radical Muslim cleric has been caught on film calling Jews pigs and urging children to die for Allah.

Firebrand Sheik Feiz Mohammed, head of the Global Islamic Youth Centre in Liverpool, delivered the hateful rants on a collection of DVDs called the Death Series being sold here and overseas.

“Today many parents, they prevent their children from attending lessons. Why? They fear that they might create a place in the their hearts, the love, just a bit of the love, of sacrificing their lives for Allah,” Sheik Feiz says in the video.

“We want to have children and offer them as soldiers defending Islam. Teach them this: There is nothing more beloved to me than wanting to die as a mujahid (holy warrior). Put in their soft, tender hearts the zeal of jihad and a love of martyrdom.”

UPDATE II. Nine’s morning news leads with Sheik Feiz, but doesn’t show any clips.

UPDATE III. The Australian Jewish News:

The director of Islam 1 Productions, Lebanese-born Subi Alshaik, told the AJN that his company had been unaware of the inflammatory nature of some of the DVDs and would “remove them from the shelves” ...

“Obviously we do not agree with racist statements. We are not out to defame anyone. We realise times are changing,” Alshaik said.

However ...

Nonetheless, Alshaik charged Channel 4 and the company that produced the documentary with taking the inflammatory quotes “out of context” and of seeking to “defame Islam”.

He said his company was considering legal action against the documentary’s producers for airing portions of the DVDs without the company’s permission.

UPDATE IV. The Australian government denounces “these reprehensible and offensive remarks.”

UPDATE V: “The Australian Federal Police said it was aware of the DVDs and was making enquiries into the matter.”

Posted by Tim B. on 01/17/2007 at 09:08 AM
  1. Is he the guy working with Jack Bauer because he wants to give peace a chance?

    Posted by andycanuck on 2007 01 17 at 09:40 AM • permalink

  2. Does Sheik Fizzy actually plan on coming back to Australia? Couldn’t you all move, or something, and leave no forwarding address? Personally, I’d recommend that the Australian government invest some of that GDP in purchasing the Tectonitron III, manufactured by Paco Geological Labs. You can shift the tectonic plates beneath Australia and move the whole continent up to a thousand miles in any direction. That way, Sheik Fizzy wouldn’t be able to find his way back at all. Let’s deal!

    Posted by paco on 2007 01 17 at 09:53 AM • permalink

  3. Sheikh Feiz Mohammed conveniently left OZ just before those 23 or so would be terrorists were nabbed late 2005 and he hasn’t been back I don’t think

    Wonder why?

    As for the Global Islamic Youth Centre, my old Rotary Club used to meet directly across the street at a little coffee shop

    The blokes hanging around at 7am were not nice looking at all - it was a very threatening experience once a week

    Often I’d gaze across the street from the coffee shop and think about throwing a brick through the window

    Posted by aussiemagpie on 2007 01 17 at 09:56 AM • permalink

  4. And the Global Islamic Youth Centre in Liverpool is right next door to a pizza place

    Posted by aussiemagpie on 2007 01 17 at 09:58 AM • permalink

  5. #2, as a private citizen of this great land, I’ll personally fund the Tectonitron III. I require delivery as soon as possible, as I have not heard an update on when either Sheik Mohamed or the Thick Sheik are returning, and I would prefer that neither can find us.

    Posted by Ash_ on 2007 01 17 at 10:02 AM • permalink

  6. That Dispatches programme did a decent job in exposing the myth of the moderate muslim, but there will never be a shortage of labour mps or chief constables with sociology degrees prepared to pander to it.

    Posted by rexie on 2007 01 17 at 10:29 AM • permalink

  7. As for the Global Islamic Youth Centre, my old Rotary Club used to meet directly across the street at a little coffee shop

    The blokes hanging around at 7am were not nice looking at all - it was a very threatening experience once a week

    Are you aware of the odd prominence of Rotarians among the list of the enemies of Islam?

    Posted by Rob Crawford on 2007 01 17 at 11:01 AM • permalink

  8. Slightly off topic, but has it really cost the US $1.2 trillion as the NY Times claims?

    Posted by Ash_ on 2007 01 17 at 11:16 AM • permalink

  9. in Iraq. I need learn to finish writing my sentences. It helps people with knowing what I’m talking about.

    Posted by Ash_ on 2007 01 17 at 11:17 AM • permalink

  10. #7 Rob Crawford

    Oh yes - Rotarians are up there with the evil ones

    It’s a vague memory but didn’t Osama himself say something about Rotarians?

    One of Rotary’s major projects is the eradication of polio around the world

    I think this has a lot to do with the anti Rotary feelings - the vaccine somehow can make kiddies turn away from Islam as well as deliberately infecting them with other diseases

    Posted by aussiemagpie on 2007 01 17 at 11:32 AM • permalink

  11. Videos produced locally.
    It’s out of context. It’s fund raising.

    Posted by saint on 2007 01 17 at 11:33 AM • permalink

  12. #11 saint

    Anyone can see it’s all out of context

    The webmaster is on holdays - what can any video producer do?

    But I notice the comapny boss is considering suing CH4 in the UK for airing those vids without his permission

    Why are these people here in OZ

    Posted by aussiemagpie on 2007 01 17 at 12:07 PM • permalink

  13. “The Death Series,” or “back to basics.”

    Posted by Patricia on 2007 01 17 at 12:17 PM • permalink

  14. Now if we could just get our major US networks to air the videos in their prime time newscasts.  What an eye opener that would be for certain segments of society, not least the people who produce the news for major US networks.

    Posted by RebeccaH on 2007 01 17 at 12:53 PM • permalink

  15. Now if we could just get our major US networks to air the videos in their prime time newscasts. 

    I’ll place money that it’ll be Fox, and that the outrage will color the air red. Nobody else will touch it.

    I bet we see a similar show—but going into Christian churches instead of mosques—long before we see the mosque show.

    Posted by Rob Crawford on 2007 01 17 at 01:42 PM • permalink

  16. #12 I hope that means you realise I had my tongue in my cheek…(see my blog)

    Posted by saint on 2007 01 17 at 01:50 PM • permalink

  17. A lot of people will only wake up during the next Feiz phase. Even then, many will say it’s all the fault of ... Bush/Blair/Howard/Jews. The US choice of Democrat over Republican might not have happened if the Middle East had been dealt with more decisively: why is it that only now the inflow of trouble from Syria and Iran is getting some response?
    Colin Powell was sent to talk to the Syrians years ago - that worked a treat. Nothing has been done to Iran yet.

    Posted by blogstrop on 2007 01 17 at 04:36 PM • permalink

  18. Paco,

    I hope with Tectonitron III you’ve managed to iron out some of the bugs from models I & II?

    New Zealand hasn’t been quite the same since has it?

    Posted by rickw on 2007 01 17 at 05:15 PM • permalink

  19. #18 Rick: Yeah, that whole north and south island thing was a bit of an accident.

    Posted by paco on 2007 01 17 at 05:21 PM • permalink

  20. And the story is no where to be seen or heard on the ABC (radio and web) to the best of my knowledge.
    Even the SMH has it on their website as breaking news.
    That’s curious ...

    Posted by Ben Haslem on 2007 01 17 at 06:11 PM • permalink

  21. There are several hours worth of mp3 audio lectures by Feiz available as a free download at the Global Islamic Youth Centre web site linked in Tim’s post.  No doubt there’s more “context” to be found and quoted by anyone with the patience to listen.

    To get things rolling: “Your Last Day On Earth” mentions the fate of those “blown up in an airplane, or by TNT…”, around 32 minutes in.

    Posted by alexs on 2007 01 17 at 06:18 PM • permalink

  22. The firebrand left Australia, he says, because he “felt like an alien in his own country”. Well, he is and, since he more than likely is linked to the 23 arrested over a year ago (what’s happening there?), let’s hope that he never dares to come back.

    The ABC, SMH and their fellow travellers, so ready to smear ordinary, everyday Australians, always hold back in cases like this.  Probably looking for some way or other to make it all John Howard’s fault.

    BTW, if the Federal Government is referred to as “the Howard Government” does that mean it’s notreallythe Australian Government?  Must give the fellow travellers some solace, I guess.

    Posted by ann j on 2007 01 17 at 06:23 PM • permalink

  23. People like this should just dissapear.  As in mysteriously and without a trace.  You know if anyone from ASIO, the CIA or MI5 happens to read this blog, well, I’m just saying is all….

    Posted by bondo on 2007 01 17 at 06:30 PM • permalink

  24. Teach them this: There is nothing more beloved to me than wanting to die as a mujahid (holy warrior).

    I know it’s been pointed out many times before….but why don’t these bastards ever (do us a favor, and) take their own advice!?

    Posted by rinardman on 2007 01 17 at 06:36 PM • permalink

  25. Maybe Chris Murphy could use the “out of context” defence in the Newton matter.

    Posted by boxofmatches on 2007 01 17 at 06:39 PM • permalink

  26. #24, rinardman:

    Sadly enough, they do. This is why their women should be considered nothing more than breeders of weapons and their children as weapons.

    There is no “innocent civilian” in the islamist world.  All us infidel are considered legitimate targets by them and all their men, women and children are weapons to use against us.

    They are, and have been, waging a genocidal war against us, and we’re imprisoning our own Soldiers for being rude or impolite to their murder/death cultists.

    Posted by Grimmy on 2007 01 17 at 06:42 PM • permalink

  27. ...seeking to “defame Islam”.

    I don’t think, technically, you can “defame” by stating what in fact is true.

    Posted by Kyda Sylvester on 2007 01 17 at 06:58 PM • permalink

  28. Dear Sheik Feiz,

    Just a couple of things my soul brother.

    How does one become a Sheik? Is it like getting an MBE as an English cricketer, you just pull on the uniform (explosive belt sold separately)?

    Well, that’s probably enough questions for today. so I’ll leave you with this:

    SUCK MY NUTS!

    Kind regards
    Infidel

    Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 01 17 at 07:32 PM • permalink

  29. The vile little Jihadists at Muslim Village have quickly come out in support of the sheik - http://forums.muslimvillage.net.
    Not all of them, it has to be said, but there is enough of them, a majority it seems, who are willing to defend the indefensible. One seems to have reached for the Protocols of Zion in an attempt to prove that Jews are even more intolerant than Muslims. Great defence - citing fictional anti-semitic propaganda to justify the real words of an Australian Muslim leader. Again, one the rare moderate Muslim Village members has pointed this out.

    It’s a serious worry that these young fundamentalist toe rags are out there in the Australian community. When will they learn that the freedom and prosperity in Australia is due to it NOT being an Islamic nation. Islam means poverty and oppression.

    Posted by Contrail on 2007 01 17 at 07:42 PM • permalink

  30. #28 Infidel Tiger: I laughed so hard at that I am foregoing doing sit-ups tonight.

    Posted by paco on 2007 01 17 at 07:47 PM • permalink

  31. #30 Paco - Laughter is the best medicine ball.

    Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 01 17 at 07:53 PM • permalink

  32. Infidel Tiger put them away and go to your room.

    Posted by JoeJr on 2007 01 17 at 07:54 PM • permalink

  33. “out of context” ?

    The context was a muslim mosque. Actually several different mosques at different times. The message was: fight, kill and otherwise defeat and force into submission non-muslims.


    I’d like to take these guys round the back of their context and “educate” them.

    Posted by Wimpy Canadian on 2007 01 17 at 07:54 PM • permalink

  34. I took a look at the stats for the Global Islamic Youth Centre. They average 29 hits per day, but today there have been 150 already.

    Included in today’s 150 are:

    18 Jan, Thu, 08:22:26 - smtp.abc.net.au
    18 Jan, Thu, 08:33:01 - vpXX.aph.gov.au

    No doubt the ABC visit is for research on a background fluff piece. There’s lots of nice stories on the GIYC site, including the one about girls’ pyjama parties (complete with an “Islam Trivia” game).

    I’m hoping the visit from the APH is to research ways of shutting these bastards down.

    I’d suggest you take a look at the stats soon because they’ll probably take down that counter once our friends over at Muzzie Village read this.

    Posted by Hanyu on 2007 01 17 at 07:58 PM • permalink

  35. #9 Aahhh, Sheik Ash__, are you seeking “context”?

    Posted by Wimpy Canadian on 2007 01 17 at 07:58 PM • permalink

  36. What I dont understand is that the ‘racism’ tag is front page news around the world based on the perceptions of a big brother contestant, though when the same channel airs views about killing jews, martyrdom and jihad,none of this is racist or newsworthy? No questions in Parliament, no complaints to the Prime Minister.

    Posted by Nic on 2007 01 17 at 08:01 PM • permalink

  37. it’s the lead story on sky news this morning and they got clips of sheik ET Feiz.

    they are also running a poll on whether the alien should be banned from preaching (89% yes)

    wonder where they got the story from?

    “We realise times are changing,” Alshaik said- too right- people are beginning to wake up to the danger of allowing the death cult into the country

    Posted by eeniemeenie on 2007 01 17 at 08:05 PM • permalink

  38. #22
    The soft left has a pathological fear of conflict. All the luvvies I know will run from conflict/delude themselves that conflict doesn’t exist, rather than face it squarely and deal with it.

    This begins with how they raise their own children.

    Faced with darlings like Sheik Fizzy their brains melt. They can’t cope with the idea that there could be people like that. They haven’t got a clue what to do about it.

    Babes in the wood. And the wolves are making a comeback. Interesting times.

    Posted by JonathanH on 2007 01 17 at 08:11 PM • permalink

  39. #31

    Infidel Tiger will you stop being so fucking witty

    Posted by JonathanH on 2007 01 17 at 08:14 PM • permalink

  40. #31

    what I mean is, of course, more, more…

    Posted by JonathanH on 2007 01 17 at 08:16 PM • permalink

  41. O/T - Races tonight are at the Muzzie stronghold of Canterbury. I was asked last week to post selections if I liked anything. It all gets back to the value on offer but I think that Miss Hijinx will go close in race 3 and Keltic Flash in race 5. There’s a bit of early pace in race 5 with Zarouk and Rouillac going forward. Keltic Flash will park somewhere between 2nd and 4th, I expect, sprint to the front in the straight and then have to withstand the challenges from Media, Presently and Chaud Roche.

    If they don’t win then at least you’ll have a willing crowd on hand to help burn the grandstand down.

    Posted by Jack Lacton on 2007 01 17 at 08:29 PM • permalink

  42. #38. Jon

    You are spot on there. I grew up inescapably surrounded by the far left of the pacifist (and worse)variety and couldn’t agree more.

    Posted by Penguin on 2007 01 17 at 08:56 PM • permalink

  43. Would love to hear what the correct context is, for this and numerous other obscenities the Sheiks have been spouting off (and Keyser Trad explaining that what Feiz really means is “I’d like to see children blow grow up big and strong” doesn’t count).

    Posted by Dminor on 2007 01 17 at 09:06 PM • permalink

  44. #41, How about Hadaaf in race 4, Zarouk in 5, Sumehra in 6? What’s with the arab conspiracy against good Aussie nag tags like…like Bumpa or Schmoo (race 6)?

    Posted by mareeS on 2007 01 17 at 09:07 PM • permalink

  45. #34 they’ve already taken down the islamic knowledge page with feiz’s lectures.  ummm what’s that word again - taqiyah?

    Posted by KK on 2007 01 17 at 09:15 PM • permalink

  46. #44 - Actually, mareeS, apart from oil, the only useful thing Arabs have given us are thoroughbred horses.

    Legend has it, that the reason Arabian horses are so fast is because they’ve seen what happens to the goats.

    Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 01 17 at 09:17 PM • permalink

  47. #44 - Hadaaf can definitely win. Zarouk will have to do too much work from the gate I would think. Bumpa is having the day off and Schmoo is a definite chance, as I know it’s working well. Lots of arab owned horses run around here, of course, so there’s lots of them with arabic names.

    Posted by Jack Lacton on 2007 01 17 at 09:17 PM • permalink

  48. I notice a reluctance on the part of Fizzy Mo himself to join the ranks of Islamo Blammos- c’mon boy, light up a fuse and live up to your name, there’s more than enough filthy infidels, porcine hebrews and assorted dhimmi detritus for you and your whole flock.

    Posted by Habib on 2007 01 17 at 09:18 PM • permalink

  49. Sydney’s most influential radical Muslim cleric has been caught on film calling Jews pigs

    This is usually where we are told it’s all about Israel…

    Posted by Dan Lewis on 2007 01 17 at 09:27 PM • permalink

  50. #38 & #42
    Agreed. I do not normally discuss these topics at work but talked through some stuff with a work colleague 2 days ago. Her thinking proved to be most fuzzy & illogical but that didn’t surprise me, as I work in a very pc luvvie kind of place.

    Her main objection seemed to be that the US shouldn’t stick it’s nose into affairs in the world because it only makes things worse. And as it contributed to conditions in the past it has no right to try to change things now. The US should be isolationist and let the world do its own thing.

    I now have this image of putting hands over one’s ears and going ‘la la la’ while at the same time pointing a finger and shaking it sternly in a disapproving school teacher manner.  This image of course implies the person has 3 hands, but when the logic of the underpinning belief system is that faulty, anything is possible.

    Does anyone have a link to refute last year’s BMJ study into Iraq mortality rates?  This colleague was listening to the main author recently on Radio National (of course) and was utterly convinced of the methodology and results. I’d love to send some hard evidence to refute this piece of pernicious propaganda.

    Posted by Junia on 2007 01 17 at 09:33 PM • permalink

  51. Re the support of the left for the Islamofacists, there’s a brilliant quote from Martin Amis in today’s Australian:

    People of liberal sympathies, stupefied by relativism, have become the apologists for a creedal wave that is racist, misogynist, homophobic, imperialist and genocidal. To put it another way, they are up the arse of those that want them dead.

    Posted by Art Vandelay on 2007 01 17 at 09:35 PM • permalink

  52. some forthright views on islamofascism from martin amis

    The phrase “horrorism”, which you invented to describe 9/11, is unintentionally hilarious. Have you got any more? JONATHAN BROOKS, by email

    MARTIN AMIS Yes, I have. Here’s a good one (though I can hardly claim it as my own): the phrase is “fuck off”.

    read to the end

    Posted by eeniemeenie on 2007 01 17 at 09:39 PM • permalink

  53. Her main objection seemed to be that the US shouldn’t stick it’s nose into affairs in the world because it only makes things worse. And as it contributed to conditions in the past it has no right to try to change things now. The US should be isolationist and let the world do its own thing.

    And the minute we do that, we’re called ignorant, no-good isolationists and blamed for all the evil that happens.

    Posted by Rob Crawford on 2007 01 17 at 09:39 PM • permalink

  54. #41   -  Cheers Jack and keep the tips coming. I’ve just returned to Australia for some surgery after 4 years up in China and I’m afraid my concentration can’t hold up to doing any form.

    Been offline for a couple of months but must say being back and catching up with my virtual family has improved my health and happines markedly.

    #26   -  Ahh Grimmy   -  my favourite hitman. Lost 80% use of my right arm on 02.11.2000 in an accident. On 02.11.2006 another accident, this one off a motorbike, will probably result in similar loss to my left arm, but when the time comes brother I’ll be alongside you with my devistating head-butt perfected after many years as a rugby league front rower in the 60’s and 70’s before the game changed.

    Posted by LaoHuLi on 2007 01 17 at 09:49 PM • permalink

  55. #54 - Jeebus! May I ask what is special about 2/11?

    Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 01 17 at 09:53 PM • permalink

  56. #54, LaoHuLi:

    Hey!! I’ve been growing a bit worried about you. Now I see there was reason to be worried!

    I do hope you heal up much better than you seem to expect.

    As far as standing the line goes, all that’s required is a stout heart and you sound like you’ve got that covered inside and out.

    Posted by Grimmy on 2007 01 17 at 09:57 PM • permalink

  57. #51

    Good comment by Amis, except last part should be passive, not active and should therefore read: “They present their arses to those who want them dead”.

    Posted by mr magoo on 2007 01 17 at 10:01 PM • permalink

  58. There are only two types of muslims. Impatient and patient.


    There is another group that identify themselves as muslims; they don’t believe the Quran must be taken literally, they believe in separation of church and state, pluralism, tolerance, they embrace modernity, peaceful pluralism etc etc.

    But, unfortunately for them (and us), they are a tiny minority, none are in positions of leadership within Islam and they are considered apostates by real muslims (of both aforementioned types.)

    We are in for a rough century.

    Posted by Penguin on 2007 01 17 at 10:48 PM • permalink

  59. #49 Dan,
    you know, you can only shake your head. You can call jews pigs and say that you want to kill them, and that’s ok by the media. However, let a teacher call a student a ‘terrorist’ and its a spot in ACA and a spread in the Telegraph. Some perspective it would seem has gone missing.

    Posted by Nic on 2007 01 17 at 10:53 PM • permalink

  60. #58 Penguin - there are only two types of Muslim: inpatient and outpatient.

    Posted by Dminor on 2007 01 17 at 11:17 PM • permalink

  61. #58

    The one statistic that gives me hope is that only 30% of Muslims in Oz attend mosques. Can’t remember where I read this, unfortunately. Must check it sometime. But if true, to me that means a lot of Muslims are out there chasing the Great Australian Dream and not dreaming of Khilafah.

    Don’t know what will happen to this 70% when the 30% mosque-going become more radicalised, as this new generation of death-cult Wahhabist whackos grows up.

    Crystal ball shows no pictures on that one.

    Posted by JonathanH on 2007 01 17 at 11:31 PM • permalink

  62. ABC on-line has finally posted the story at 2.05pm Sydney time.
    The angle? Kaysar Trad has condemned the comments.
    They must have been waiting to hear the Muslim community’s side of the story before telling the rest of us ...

    Posted by Ben Haslem on 2007 01 17 at 11:34 PM • permalink

  63. #54   -  IT   Don’t know where I’ll be on 02.11.2012 but if I’m still about I’ll be stayin’ in bed!

    Posted by LaoHuLi on 2007 01 17 at 11:52 PM • permalink

  64. #62

    Trad has been quoted out of context.

    Posted by Margos Maid on 2007 01 17 at 11:54 PM • permalink

  65. from the abc’s very brief story:

    The head of the Global Islam Youth Centre, Sheikh Feiz Mohammed, has also referred to Jewish people as “pigs”, in a video of one of his lectures.

    [well thats putting it mildly]

    The DVDs were reportedly found being sold by children outside a mosque in Britain.

    -so they haven’t actually watched it?- it’s quite clearly shown.

    perhaps they haven’t- it’s disappeared from youtube

    Posted by eeniemeenie on 2007 01 17 at 11:55 PM • permalink

  66. On the other hand, there are still heroes iheroes n this world.

    Posted by saint on 2007 01 18 at 12:00 AM • permalink

  67. If sheik Fizz beleives in Martyrdom, and dying for the cause, why doesn’t he set the example by going first?

    I’d like to see them all do something kind of like the scene towards the end of “Life of Brian”

    Posted by wanglese on 2007 01 18 at 12:02 AM • permalink

  68. Junia @50
    You might check out the “Reality Check” as recounted by the Iraq Body Count website. Or you might consult the commentariate at TimBlair.net.

    Cheers

    Posted by J.M. Heinrichs on 2007 01 18 at 12:04 AM • permalink

  69. The Australian Government “denounces these reprehensible and offensive remarks”. The bloody Australian government allowed these people into the country in the first place. Now, we, the taxpaying citizens must reap what has been sown, by politicians and a bloated beaucracy. Regardless of ‘citizenship status’, deport the lot, and bring the incompetents to book.

    Posted by BJM on 2007 01 18 at 12:09 AM • permalink

  70. Australia was founded on Christian priciples, for good or bad that is up to each person to believe. If people want to go on about civil liberties, I suggest they go to Saudi Arabia where their foundation is based on Islam and a very strict form of Islam at that, and they don’t accept any other form of religion, so basically there is no room for tolerance by them. I ws warned in a safety meeting for a job to be mobilized in Saudi that under no circumstances were people allowed to wear small crosses on chains around their neck as this will offend the locals, fair enough its there country, again shows a lack of tolerance.

    Australia is a tolerant society, wether this is good or not is again up to individual opinion (mine says if you dont like how we live here then fuck off) but when you have individuals who express openly their ideas about Australia and how we live, then we need to wake up to ourselves and do something about.

    We need to quit saying sorry to every minority who claims “I am being descriminated against by the govt of Australia”. Australia is a fantastic place to live, we have stable govt and economy and it is about as unpolluted as you can get in this polluted world. We need to be strong in our identity and I do not need to crap on about our identity as it is already well known to us all.

    These people (sheiky 1 & 2, sounds like bananas in pyjamas but deadly) need to be stopped and if it means jail time or citizenship revocation then so be it. Australia is geographically a long way from the rest of the worlds problems, lets not let these pricks bring their problems here. And I dont just mean islamic radical like Sheiky 1 & 2 but everyones, including the Croats and Serbs as of the other day.

    AUSTRALIA WAKE UP!!!!!!!

    Posted by artful-dodger on 2007 01 18 at 12:12 AM • permalink

  71. #70 Artful

    But they won’t.

    Over in the UK, after the Disptaches program was aired, the media was full of racist stories and motions in Parliament - over Celebrity Big Brother.  Barely a peep about the growing death cult in my country.

    More 18-35 year olds vote in Big Brother polls than voted at the last General Election (voting is not compulsory in the UK). 

    I weep.

    Posted by pommygranate on 2007 01 18 at 12:20 AM • permalink

  72. #58 We are in for a rough century.

    One way or another things will be coming to a head in the next decade. If this malarkey is still going on in a century then we deserve our fate.

    Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 01 18 at 12:24 AM • permalink

  73. #71 pommygranate.

    I follow John Brignell’s Numberwatch website. If what he has to say regarding the state of affairs in the UK is true, I’ll weep for you, too. Looks like you’ve got some tough choices coming up in the next election, with the Tories calling for an 80% reduction in carbon emissions - that’s 20% more than Labour’s dared suggest!

    Posted by Dminor on 2007 01 18 at 12:49 AM • permalink

  74. UPDATE V: “The Australian Federal Police said it was aware of the DVDs and was making enquiries into the matter.”

    Did anyone notice that the first person quoted by the SMH in the article from which the above was quoted, was Kevin Rudd? Kevin Blody Rudd!! Since when has he got anything to do with Government policy??

    Oh, I forgot, it’s the Herald. In their minds, Kevin is already PM, and Peter Garrett is the President. Of course, there’s that small matter of an election later this year…

    Posted by AlburyShifton on 2007 01 18 at 01:13 AM • permalink

  75. High on a hill was a lonely Sheike
    Called O Mo-dumb-Lay ee Mo-dumb-layee mo Mo_faz-lay hee hoo Porky doo!! (o o )
    Loud was the voice of the dumb dumb Sheik
    Mo-Lay ee MO-odl-lay ee Mo the doo

    Meat in a town that was quite remote heard
    Sheike Mo-doo-lay-dee mo doo looooooo
    Lusty and clear from the Pork chops throat heard
    Kiddies ho dee die dumb ho dee die dumb ho dee loo!!!

    MO(hyphen)ho lay dee odl lee o, mo ho lay dee odl ay
    O ho lay dee odl lee o, lay dee odl lee o lay

    Posted by 1.618 on 2007 01 18 at 01:41 AM • permalink

  76. p.s. Islamb lovers must be big meat experts.

    We have Sheik H with the uncovered meat, Islamb (the dumb dumb spelling) pork chops (jew jew hating) Does the koran fairy tale endorse halal kangaroo chops?

    Posted by 1.618 on 2007 01 18 at 01:43 AM • permalink

  77. #75 1.618

    Great work. If I tried singing it, however, I think my head would explode.

    Posted by JonathanH on 2007 01 18 at 01:47 AM • permalink

  78. #73 dminor

    Don’t get me started on the Tories. A bunch of paternalistic, statist toffs.

    Posted by pommygranate on 2007 01 18 at 01:51 AM • permalink

  79. The ABC are now on the case (ignored this morning on both Early AM and the News).

    The ABC website is quoting You Know Who - now that Rudd says it’s OK to talk about Sheik Feiz Mohamed and the DVD’s, well, let’s get right on it! There’s not a moment to lose!

    “Let’s get a crew out to Ruddy, we need a quote from him about this Mohamed guy for the 7 o’clock news….”

    Posted by Bonmot on 2007 01 18 at 02:12 AM • permalink

  80. Outrage continues at Muslim Village. One little scrotum called AbuSufyaan wants to know who told the media that one of their clerics was preaching murder. Apparently these plans are supposed to be secret. Witch hunt underway in the village streets now.

    Posted by Contrail on 2007 01 18 at 02:23 AM • permalink

  81. #80, Contrail:

    I dont recall the exact spelling of the name of the guy that we got to infiltrate their site for us…

    Mommad, Mohammad..Moh somthing, wasnt it?

    Posted by Grimmy on 2007 01 18 at 02:29 AM • permalink

  82. the comments on the article in the tele were the usual mix, but one commenter stood out - for his name not his comments - Muhunghruhl Khant. beautiful

    Posted by KK on 2007 01 18 at 02:44 AM • permalink

  83. For God’s /Allah’s (whoever)‘s sake, Penguin, I’m hanging out for the statement from Geezer Trash on this.

    Yes, yes, Sheep Fizz was quoted out of context obviously, but what else does Geezer have to say?

    Posted by Stop Continental Drift! on 2007 01 18 at 03:23 AM • permalink

  84. #79- yeah funny how they didn’t report it until they got heavy kevvie’s views, and the kruddster had to wait until he’d consulted opinion polls to know how to react which seems to be why they were so late with the story.

    at least now we should be spared sarcastic comments from the left about JWH turning 2007 into the ‘muslim election’- that is if the leftards have any sense of shame at all.

    ABC Ruddio National- all kevvie all the time

    Posted by eeniemeenie on 2007 01 18 at 03:43 AM • permalink

  85. islam is dying. it cant survive a world of earthly paradise (No-one on earth has lived as well as the average “Joe” on the street does now.
    Not Emporers, Popes or Kings. we are free from hunger, most disease is treatable, and our “bread and circus’s” in the form of the idiot box and internet provide endless entertainment.
    You can live as an Exclusive bretheren, feral hippie, or devout Muslim largely free from state or offical harrassment.

    In short life for people in the west is as close to paradise as can be found, it has its flaws, irritations, and problems but compared to even 50 years ago it is materialy better.

    Now compare that to the jihadis pitch. “Life sucks, and things like sex, food and good things await you if you deny yourself EVERYTHING available now.”
    It might work well in Iraq (Why do you think they are so scared of material progress?) or lower goathump in Yemen but doesnt get much traction here in the west.
    The threat comes from the death struggles of the fanatics as the conditions in which they thrive (Hunger, oppression and poverty) are slowly made better.
    Qurantine the shitholes, let no-one in for 25 years and make the statement “There is no safety valve in develloped countries for your problems” Deal with your own poverty, dont export it to us.

    Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2007 01 18 at 03:45 AM • permalink

  86. Keysar Trad was just quoted briefly on ACA.  Even he’s not willing to defend Feiz on this one.

    Rather more bewildering was one anonymous Muslim woman interviewed on the street.  I’m paraphrasing from memory, but essentially she said Feiz’s comment would make perfect sense if you understood what Islam was about.

    She didn’t elaborate.

    Posted by alexs on 2007 01 18 at 03:47 AM • permalink

  87. The stats at the Global Islamic Youth Centre are interesting, especially the ones for unique visitors. I liked this one:

    18 Jan, Thu, 16:11:19: legalaid.wa.gov.au (which has the slogan “We help more people than you think”). I bet they’re right. No doubt they’re already offering advice to offended Muslims on taking legal action over hurt feelings.

    The GIYC has never had so many hits; today they’ve cracked the 500 mark (which has pushed their daily average up to 31). Hey, what if it turns out the Sheik is a hit whore and a cowardly, murderous slime bag…

    Posted by Hanyu on 2007 01 18 at 03:50 AM • permalink

  88. “Out of context” huh?

    Out of his head with hate, more like.

    Posted by carpefraise on 2007 01 18 at 04:10 AM • permalink

  89. G.I.Y.C.
    Gay Islamic Young Chaps.

    Posted by Squiffy on 2007 01 18 at 04:13 AM • permalink

  90. Give a man a fish and he eats for a day.
    Give a muslim a fish and he makes a fishbomb.

    - mohaajunkie (commenter on Stuck Mojo’s “Open Season” page at youtube.)

    Posted by Grimmy on 2007 01 18 at 04:39 AM • permalink

  91. Well, it was all over the 7pm news on ABC tonight, complete with clips of Fizzy (gotta love that one. MAkes me think of lollies.)

    The newsreader mentioned that the story was all over the internet, too! yay!

    In a somewhat related sidenote, with respect to the poor shake feeling like an alien in his own country, how about you come have a chat with my friends, Aussies who were Egyptians?

    I was chatting with the wife the other day, and she said to me that she can’t believe the way it’s changing in the area. When she came here as a child, her father told her mother that at last he could breathe, because he was in a Christian country. He was free, and could do what he wanted.

    Now, she tells me, all you hear about are the muslims, and she knows how her father felt in Egypt - they are a cancer, and she is finding it hard to breathe herself.

    Over there, her husband’s family shop was the only one on the street not trashed by muslims because it had an islamic-sounding name. Indeed, her husband and her son have islamic-sounding names as protective camouflage.

    Definitely a few…. challenging.... years ahead.

    Posted by Nilknarf Arbed on 2007 01 18 at 04:52 AM • permalink

  92. Slightly off topic, but a campaign is underway to make the mentaly retarded put signs up in windows to display their affliction.
    Really someone should do something about it, like start a petition….

    http://tinyurl.com/ybsxgx

    I am tempted to order a few dozen myself to help whith their finances.
    Ps: Antone know much about this group of knuckehumpers??

    Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2007 01 18 at 05:03 AM • permalink

  93. From #41 - “O/T - Races tonight are at the Muzzie stronghold of Canterbury. I was asked last week to post selections if I liked anything. It all gets back to the value on offer but I think that Miss Hijinx will go close in race 3…”

    Miss Hijinx, being willed on by the punting Blairites, has just lobbed at a juicy $5+.

    Posted by Jack Lacton on 2007 01 18 at 05:12 AM • permalink

  94. They are not being quoted out of context. They are trying to pretend that the context and/or subtext does not exist, for political/taqqiya reasons.
    A guy who lectures in a mosque, sells hateful books or DVDs through, at or near the mosque, and wants to raise children for jihad is well and truly in context, as someone else pointed out recently.

    Posted by blogstrop on 2007 01 18 at 05:12 AM • permalink

  95. #41 Jack Lacton
    Races at Canterbury.
    It was me Jack - keen to get your tips.
    Mate, Keltic Flash will be hard to beat. I do like Media tho - lack of racing a bit of a worry. Yeah. I’ll go with Keltic Flash.

    Maybe a coupla bob EW on Three Tenors in the last if he gets a start.

    We’ll catch up somewhere tomorrow.

    Posted by Bonmot on 2007 01 18 at 05:22 AM • permalink

  96. #95 - Hope you got on Miss Hijinx! Three Tenors is out. I know there’s some stable confidence about Texarcana in the last but you really have to get her on her night as she’s only won 3/22. I reckon Keltic Flash will be in front at some point in the straight. We’ll see if I can rack up 3/3 in about 1/2 hour.

    Posted by Jack Lacton on 2007 01 18 at 05:27 AM • permalink

  97. Youtube are’nt that efficient undercover mosque can still be viewed here.

    also includes a response from one of the fascists pigs ubermenschen taqqiya trolls   preachers

    Posted by eeniemeenie on 2007 01 18 at 05:31 AM • permalink

  98. HOWARD WINS 2007 ELECTION IN LANDSLIDE

    This will be the inevitable headline since Sheik Mumbojumbo (he of the sparse chin whiskers) stating on his DVD that Howard, Bush and Blair are criminals and that jihad or fatwah or somesuch dingbat ritual must be delared against them. You see, any friend of the sheik is an enemy of mine and any enemy of the sheik is my friend.

    I can hear Ruddy now - “Declare a fatwah on me sheik, me, me, me sheik - don’t favour Howard, you know you hate him, me sheik, fatwah me…”

    Posted by Bonmot on 2007 01 18 at 05:34 AM • permalink

  99. #96 Jack - no, I passed on Miss Hijinx - I thought she was going to be shorter than what she paid. Bugger.
    What do you think of Ferocious in the 6th?

    Posted by Bonmot on 2007 01 18 at 05:39 AM • permalink

  100. #99 - Well don’t blame me if you’re not ahead! Race 6 is a lottery. If I can get around $16 on either Flavoursome and/or Schmoo then I might be interested otherwise I’ll let it pass.

    Posted by Jack Lacton on 2007 01 18 at 05:47 AM • permalink

  101. KEYSER TRAD PRESS CONFERENCE

    Hello, please move towards the front, crowd in there, we have to get everyone in. Terry Lane, Margo, good to see you here.

    Sorry that its so hot in here but we no longer run our airconditioner as this allows us to funnel carbon credits into various islamic charities and friendship societies. Those people have a lot to do and they always need money. Always making new friends, chums, buddies and pals…. its like a 60’s love in but without any of the good stuff.

    The payments are also part of our efforts to improve the environment. Makes for a more palatable future so to speak, well at least for those concerned for the future in the same way we are anyway.

    Sorry I’m late, but I have just been visiting other Islamic Friendship Societies in Los Angeles and the airport was snowed in due to global warming.

    Which reminds me, please take a pamphlet for Sheik Mohammed Abdul’s speech next week. The Sheik is a renowned Islamic scientist…...what….....no really what?...........what are you chuckling about?

    Yeah anyway, he’s giving a speech on Islam and global warming. Basically, his contention is that as ice and snow is very rare in the bulk of muslim lands, global warming is caused by atheism, pluralism and unbelief. Yeah I know! Insightful huh?

    He goes on further to say that the spread of Islam will therefore reduce global warming. Hey, sounds righteous to me.

    Anyhow, I could talk about the spread of Islam all day but I won’t excite you. I’m here to read a statement from the Mufti Of Australia…..mmhemmm..

    “Good people of Australia, and others. This is your Mufti speaking. By the grace of Allah the merciful, the benificent, I shall return to my dearly beloved Australia soon. How I miss Australia and in particular her wonderful people. Did I mention that I love you? I know you await my arrival with great joy.

    I would first like to address the recent speech made by Sheik Faiz. I am totally opposed to everything he stands for. Let’s face it, if I was not, then he might usurp me as Mufti of Australia. Also, as a muslim he is supposed to be humble, like me for example. It also against the teachings of Islam to want young children to become Shahid. Everyone knows this. Nine is the age for marriage and sixteen for matyrdom. This is Allah’s law no matter what Sheik Faiz is preaching.

    Finally, concerning Sheik Faiz he has committed an act that is haram, namely he has used a DVD. Such western technology is unislamic, just ask the Taliban. For that he will join President Reagan in hell.

    So, I shall be back among you soon as I have learnt that I am surrounded by snakes and vipers here, and that only includes the Egyptian TV people who ‘did me in’ as you say.

    May Allah’s peace and wisdom be upon you.”


    ...well that’s pretty straight forward, any questions?

    Terry Lane, The Age. Keyser do you have anything disparaging to say about the great satan?

    Sorry Terry the who?....oh you mean the US, haven’t heard that nickname in a while, its obviously stuck in your head. Ah let’s see, aaahhh how about something along the lines of ....aaah, oh I got one, we have proof that a new procedure used in Guantanamo Bay is being used by the CIA and Mossad where they remove an innocent muslims brain and transplant a CIA agents brain into the skull and then sew it back up. They are then releasing the spy back into the community. We know this. Good enough Terry?

    Scoop!

    Posted by Penguin on 2007 01 18 at 05:48 AM • permalink

  102. #100 - $16 on either Flavoursome and/or Schmoo
    Hmmmm - tasty!

    Posted by Bonmot on 2007 01 18 at 05:56 AM • permalink

  103. #102 - Well the best horse in the field won race 5, 59kg and all. I thought that was beyond him. Media did what she always does - flashes home late to break punters’ hearts.

    Posted by Jack Lacton on 2007 01 18 at 06:04 AM • permalink

  104. “The Australian Federal Police said it was aware of the DVDs and was making enquiries into the matter.”

    Sounds like it’s in the hands of the humorless.  That’s the trouble with no Constitution.

    Posted by rhhardin on 2007 01 18 at 06:27 AM • permalink

  105. #102 - I believe that I am officially a Legend. Got the lot there.

    Posted by Jack Lacton on 2007 01 18 at 06:34 AM • permalink

  106. Rather more bewildering was one anonymous Muslim woman interviewed on the street.  I’m paraphrasing from memory, but essentially she said Feiz’s comment would make perfect sense if you understood what Islam was about.

    What’s bewildering about it? She was speaking the truth.

    Posted by Rob Crawford on 2007 01 18 at 06:55 AM • permalink

  107. Trad down under

    Travelling with a fried-out commie
    On a hippie trail, head full of zombie
    I met a strange lady, she made me nervous
    She took me in to RN breakfast
    And she said,


    “Are you Trad from down under?
    Where women are for men to plunder?
    Can’t you hear, can’t you hear the chunder?
    You better run, you better take cover.”


    Buying bread from a man in Brussels
    He was six foot four and full of muscles
    He said, “Do you speak-a my language?”
    I just smiled and gave him a knuckle sandwich
    And he said,


    “Are you Trad from down under?
    Where beer does flow and men chunder
    Can’t you hear, can’t you hear the chunder?
    You better run, you better take cover.”


    Lying in a den in Bombay
    With a slack jaw, and not much to say
    I said to the man, “Are you trying to tempt me
    Because I come from the land of plenty?”
    And he said,


    “Oh! Are you Trad from down under? (oh yeah yeah)
    Where women are for men to plunder?
    Can’t you hear, can’t you hear the chunder?
    You better run, you better take cover

    Posted by egg_ on 2007 01 18 at 06:58 AM • permalink

  108. Youtube are’nt that efficient undercover mosque can still be viewed here.

    I grabbed copies of the three-part AND six-part versions, because I expected them to disappear.

    Posted by Rob Crawford on 2007 01 18 at 06:59 AM • permalink

  109. #92 - Just went to their website and asked for 4 signs, but with a slight alteration.

    Can you please alter it slightly to read “Bring david hicks home - in a box”.

    Posted by mr creosote on 2007 01 18 at 07:44 AM • permalink

  110. mr creosote

    Nice.

    Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2007 01 18 at 08:00 AM • permalink

  111. I ordered me some signs too. My request was:

    Can you make mine say: “Bring Mahommed Dawood home”? This is his chosen name.

    Posted by der FRED on 2007 01 18 at 08:15 AM • permalink

  112. I just watched SBS news which featured an item regarding pressure for Olmert and others to resign and generally gloating over the propect.
    But what is interesting, and i wonder if Anyone else has picked this up too, is that the report is signed off as coming from SBS reporters, yet the Scottish voice is the same as is present in many BBC mid east reports.
    So is SBS passing off BBC reports as its own reporting?

    Posted by davo on 2007 01 18 at 08:45 AM • permalink

  113. Sheikh Feiz Mohammed is simply reflecting the teaching of the Qur’an and ahadith…...the Jews, whom Mohammed called “brothers of monkeys.” ( 2:62-65, 5:59-60 and 7:166 etc etc — where the Qur’an records that “Allah transformed the Sabbath-breaking Jews into pigs and monkeys.”)
    If the police are going to ban his DVD and prosecute him for racial vilification and promoting violence and religious hatred, why don’t they ban the source - the Qur’an and ahadith. And while they’re about it they might as well ban Islam. All the politicians (on both sides) wittering on about how disgusting this piece of shit is should maybe bone up on Islam (and I don’t mean get a stiffy!). Why attack the symptoms of this idealogical cancer when we can easily attack the source of this disease.
    The Australian government denounces “these reprehensible and offensive remarks.”
    “The Australian Federal Police said it was aware of the DVDs and was making enquiries into the matter.” Hello! anyone out there with a spine? Howard, Downer, Ruddock, Rudd, Garrett???
    The Waleed Alys, Irfan Yusefs, Keysar Trads and various ‘moderates’ they wheel out to reassure us unsuspecting kaffirs that Sheikh Feiz Mohammed doesn’t represent true Islam are either lying through their teeth or just stupid (I suspect they’re taqiyya merchants to a man). “Out of context” my arse!
    Old Cat Meat Hilali is doing exactly the same in everything he says -  reflecting the teaching of the Qur’an and ahadith.
    If the government is not going to do anything about these cunts (Muslims), then the people should rise up in righteous indignation and expel these fuckers from our society. They should start deporting Muslims NOW and not wait for the bloodbath that will inevitably happen here. All Muslims that want to apostacize and assimilate into our tolerant society can stay. The rest can fuck off to the dung-heaps where Islam rules!
    Problem solved.
    Meanwhile, in the real world where milksops rule…......

    Posted by Skid Marx on 2007 01 18 at 09:42 AM • permalink

  114. #113 Skid Marx. Glad to see you use ‘milksop’ instead of the pretentious (and frenchified) ‘milquetoast’ that seems to be trendy right now.

    Posted by flying pigs over mecca on 2007 01 18 at 10:00 AM • permalink

  115. #28 - Infidel, I believe that the time is ripe to begin a concerted SUCK MY NUTS! campaign aimed at unruly Imams.

    Posted by boxofmatches on 2007 01 18 at 10:33 AM • permalink

  116. Islam is genrally is a religion in impoverished and very backward and uneducated areas of the world. It is used as a tool by the intelligent ones or by the ones who rule either by fear or heriditery rule. Basically it is dangerous as all forms of zealotry are. Ban Islam as the Saudi’s ban christianity in Saudi and as yet I am to hear of anyone who speaks out about that.

    I currently live in the Middle East and believe me there are many men walking around trying to imitate JC. They believe that subjugation is natural and are willing to take it just like sheep. Hold that thought, that is why they send so many sheep to this region to show the rest of them how to behave

    Posted by artful-dodger on 2007 01 18 at 10:53 AM • permalink

  117. Ishaq:262 “Some Muslims remained friends with the Jews, so Allah sent down a Qur’an forbidding them to take Jews as friends. From their mouths hatred has already shown itself and what they conceal is worse.”
    Qur’an 2:59 “We sent a plague upon the Jews from heaven, for their evil-doing.”
    Qur’an 59:14 “They are a divided people devoid of sense. There is a grievous punishment awaiting them. Satan tells them not to believe so both of them will end up in Hell.”
    Bukhari:V4B56N679 “Allah’s Apostle said, ‘Plague is a means of torture sent on the Israelis.’”
    Ishaq:253 “Allah cursed them for their unbelief. When a scripture comes to them from Allah confirming what they already have, they deny it. Allah’s curse is on them.”
    Phew! Pretty hard to take out of context, innit?
    A lot of codswallop has been written recently that antisemitism in Islam is a recent phenomenon, learned from Christianity and the Nazis (some retards even call Hitler a Christian - you know the guy who wrote: “Had Charles Martel not been victorious at Poitiers - already, you see, the world had already fallen into the hands of the Jews, so gutless a thing Christianity! - then we should in all probability have been converted to Mohammedanism, that cult which glorifies the heroism and which opens up the seventh Heaven to the bold warrior alone. Then the Germanic races would have conquered the world. Christianity alone prevented them from doing so.”
    [August 28, 1942, midday] p. 667 “Hitler’s Table Talk; 1941-1944” translated by N. Cameron and R.H. Stevens, Enigma Books,1953). In fact the Nazis got a lot of ideas from Muslims (i.e. star-of-David i.d. patches for Jews - just like dhimmis had to wear). Amin al-Husseini, the grand mufti of Jerusalem, became a prominent Muslim activist on behalf of the Axis cause. After fleeing the Middle East for Berlin, he broadcast rabidly antisemitic propaganda for the Nazis’ Arabic radio service as well as organizing Muslim Waffen SS units for rounding up Jews.
    Antisemitism, with Qur’anic and entirely non-Western motifs, was rampant throughout Islamic history. These Islamic sources were and continue to be exploited, now, by Cairo’s Al Azhar University and its Grand Imam Sheikh Tantawi. Tantawi wrote the following in his 700 page treatise rationalizing Muslim Jew hatred, Banu Isra’il fi al-Qur’an wa al-Sunna [Jews in the Qur’an and the Traditions], originally published in the 1970s, and then re-issued in 1986/87:
    The Qur’an describes the Jews with their own particular degenerate characteristics, i.e. killing the prophets of Allah, corrupting His words by putting them in the wrong places, consuming the people’s wealth frivolously, refusal to distance themselves from the evil they do, and other ugly characteristics caused by their deep-rooted lasciviousness…only a minority of the Jews keep their word….All Jews are not the same. The good ones become Muslims, the bad ones do not.
    Tantawi was apparently rewarded for this scholarly effort by being named Grand Imam of Al-Azhar University in 1996, a position he still holds. These are the expressed, “carefully researched” views on Jews held by the nearest Muslim equivalent to a Pope—the head of the most prestigious center of Muslim learning in Sunni Islam, which represents 90% of the world’s Muslims. And Sheikh Tantawi has not mollified such hatemongering beliefs since becoming the Grand Imam of Al-Azhar as his statements on the Jews as “enemies of Allah, descendants of apes and pigs”, the legitimacy of homicide bombing of Jews, make clear.
    …anyone who avoids meeting with the enemies in order to counter their dubious claims and stick fingers into their eyes, is a coward. My stance stems from Allah’s book [the Qur’an], more than one-third of which deals with the Jews…I wrote a dissertation dealing with them [the Jews], all their false claims and their punishment by Allah. I still believe in everything written in that dissertation.
    As the late, great comedian, Peter Cook once wrote: “Let the Spubes commence!”

    Posted by Skid Marx on 2007 01 18 at 12:07 PM • permalink

  118. #117

    Ishaq:262 “Some Muslims remained friends with the Jews, so Allah sent down a Qur’an forbidding them to take Jews as friends. From their mouths hatred has already shown itself and what they conceal is worse.

    Sounds like the big A could be talking about Australia’s muslim community…

    Posted by flying pigs over mecca on 2007 01 18 at 12:29 PM • permalink

  119. Attention Jack Lacton (Legend)
    Very Flavoursome indeed $12.00!

    Now that we have got rid of the mid weeks, let’s get serious. Saturday!

    One runner, one race. That’s all we crave Jack….

    Posted by Bonmot on 2007 01 18 at 04:17 PM • permalink

  120. Yes, but spare a thought for the humble intelligent PIG, he’s the one stuck in all of this mud match!

    Posted by 1.618 on 2007 01 18 at 08:23 PM • permalink

  121. Jack Lacton is a soothsayer!

    I went to the trouble of putting money in the account, wrote down the tips, checked the odds… forgot to place bets. Checked the results this morning and you’ve even tipped people into a $12 shot! Freakin’ genius. You need a racing blog or hotline.

    Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 01 18 at 09:17 PM • permalink

  122. #107
    More ‘moderate’ chorus:

    Can’t you hear, can’t you hear their thunder?
    You better run, you better take cover.”

    input welcome.

    #79
    Sheik has ABC Ruddled, but not rolled?

    Posted by egg_ on 2007 01 18 at 11:32 PM • permalink

  123. #121 - Thanks, Infidel. I’ve had a bit of a good run lately but if there’s a take away that people ought to work out then it’s to pick your races and look for value (I got $20 on Betfair for Flavoursome) otherwise leave them alone. If you can’t articulate, in some detail, the reasons for backing a horse then that’s gotta tell you something!

    Posted by Jack Lacton on 2007 01 18 at 11:37 PM • permalink

  124. Here’s another RoPer who’s taken the Qur’an ‘out of context’!
    American-Born Imam Spews Message of Hate in England
    A report by George Kindel for FoxNews:
    NEW YORK — A New Jersey-born Muslim cleric with links to a suspected Al Qaeda operative who surfaced at a college not far from the cleric’s Peoria, Ill., mosque the day before the Sept. 11 attacks has found a new home.
    The imam now is spewing his message of hate to a growing group of followers at a mosque in Birmingham, England.
    His target: the United States, the United Kingdom, Christians and Jews.
    Abu Usamah at-Thahabi, who preached at the Islamic Center of Peoria in 2001, is the subject of a British news documentary that revealed Monday how he regularly exhorts worshippers at the Green Lane Masjid, or mosque, in Birmingham to hate Westerners, whom he calls “pathological liars” and “kuffar,” a derogatory term for non-Muslims.
    He also calls for the public crucifixion of all “kuffar” and says they should be “left there to bleed to death for three days.”
    Crucifixion of those who cause fitnah, or trouble in the land, is in accord with Qur’an 5:33: “The only reward of those who make war upon Allah and His messenger and strive after corruption in the land will be that they will be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet on alternate sides cut off, or will be expelled out of the land. Such will be their degradation in the world, and in the Hereafter theirs will be an awful doom.”
    Sources tell FOX News that Abu Usamah is a mysterious character — no one, including federal agents and fellow imams, seems to know what his name was prior to his conversion to Islam.
    But sources in Peoria say that though his public teachings there were moderate, he occasionally stepped over the line into anti-Semitic rhetoric.
    Just prior to the invasion of Iraq in 2003, he called President Bush a “pathological liar” and constantly argued to his followers that “Jews controlled the media.”...
    In the days immediately after Sept. 11, he asked Peoria residents not to judge the Muslim community by the actions of the terrorists who carried out the attack and thanked the local Christian community for its support.
    “More faiths, different groups reached out to us,” he told the Peoria Journal Star newspaper a year after the attacks.
    He went on to thank “those open-minded people who judge everyone individually.”
    The New Jersey-born imam, who claims to have studied a strict version of Islam at the Islamic University of Medina in Saudi Arabia, has since changed his tune.
    “Lying is part of their religion,” Abu Usamah is heard telling his followers in the special report produced by the British news show “Dispatches” on Channel 4.
    “They do whatever they want to do. They are liars, they are terrorists themselves. They are lying, you can’t believe them.
    “They are pathological liars,” he rants.
    Ironic in light of, for example, Ibn Kathir’s commentary on Qur’an 3:28: “...‘unless you indeed fear a danger from them’ meaning, except those believers who in some areas or times fear for their safety from the disbelievers. In this case, such believers are allowed to show friendship to the disbelievers outwardly, but never inwardly. For instance, Al-Bukhari recorded that Abu Ad-Darda’ said, ‘We smile in the face of some people although our hearts curse them.’ Al-Bukhari said that Al-Hasan said, ‘The Tuqyah [taqiyya] is allowed until the Day of Resurrection.’”
    The mosque’s official Web site says its purpose is to counter Muslim stereotyping, but the Channel 4 report found there is a secret chat room area of the site that only mosque members know about, where At-Thahabi’s lectures are broadcast.
    It is in this chat room, the report says, that Abu Usamah preaches the creation of a “total Islamic state” that advocates harsh punishments for non-believers.
    “Whoever changes his religion from Islam,” he declares, “kill him, in the Islamic state.”
    This is a quote from Mohammed, who said: “Whoever changes his religion, kill him” - Bukhari Volume 9, Book 84, Number 57.
    What part of “Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.” (Qur’an 9:29)  don’t the gutless British government understand?

    Posted by Skid Marx on 2007 01 19 at 12:45 AM • permalink

  125. #7, #10
    Oddly enough in the Hamas Covenant wherein they swear to obliterate Israel and other such fun stuff, I discovered that they “think” that Rotary is controlled by the Zionists.
    Isn’t that cute?
    # 7, ever felt any Zionist-type commands wafting through your brain? Oh wait, you DID feel like throwing a brick through the cafe window…not that you did, but you FELT like it…tsk tsk…

    Posted by carpefraise on 2007 01 19 at 05:13 AM • permalink

  126. #33 You can take the context out of the sheik but you can never take the sheik out of context.

    Posted by carpefraise on 2007 01 19 at 05:16 AM • permalink

  127. Yasser Soliman and Waleed Aly should think very carefully before they launch into victim mode and compare the Catch the Fire ministers with Muslim jihadists. Together with a reality-challenged Green spokeswoman, they smeared the 2 Dannys as “far-Right” fundamentalists and “groups which have a history of toxic-hate speech.”
    Why do newspapers, or the radio, or television, permit this propagandistic use of epithets for which not the slightest evidence is presented? The word “far right” or “right-wing” should not be used, as it has been used, to blacken the name and reputation of anyone at all who happens to grimly perceive the menace of Islam. What made Pim Fortuyn, the bemused libertine, “right-wing,” as he was routinely called, so stupidly, in the European, American and Australian press? What? There was nothing. Was Bertrand Russell “right-wing” because of how he saw Islam? Churchill—was he “right-wing” or “far right-wing”? Spinoza? Hume? John Quincy Adams? Mark Twain? Are they all “right-wing” because they grasped the essence of Islam?
    During the war that the Muslims, the “Palestinians” and the locals unleashed on the Christians of Lebanon, a phrase appeared all over the Western world. It was always and everywhere “the right-wing Christians.” In what did their “right-wingness” consist? Were they for a certain economic policy normally associated with the “right-wing”? Were they supporters of, or supported by, Fascists and unreconstructed Nazis all over the world? No, the Fascists and the Nazis, including known war criminals, had always been on the side of Muslims.
    Toxic hate speech!?
    So, quoting violent, racist, supremacist passages in the Qur’an and Sunnah and being alarmed at these hateful texts in the privacy of their own church is hate speech? Why shouldn’t we non-Muslims examine the very real threat we face from Islam? Are Christians rioting over cartoons, plotting to mass-murder non-Christians, demanding endless apologies, causing trouble in nearly every country on Earth, calling Jews apes and pigs, calling non-Christians unbelievers and filth, torching mosques and marching through non-Christian areas with signs that say “Christianity will dominate”? No, Muslims are.
    Which brings me to the jihadists.
    Sheikh Feiz Mohammed’s hateful ranting is simply reflecting the teaching of the Qur’an and the main recensions of the hadith, and the sira (the biography of Mohammed)......the Jews, whom Mohammed called “brothers of monkeys.” ( 2:62-65, 5:59-60 and 7:166 etc etc — where the Qur’an records that “Allah transformed the Sabbath-breaking Jews into pigs and monkeys.”). It is not surprising that Jihadists take delight in killing Jews considering the actions of their prophet
    Hilali is doing exactly the same in everything he says -  reflecting the teaching of the Qur’an and ahadith.
    Ditto bin Laden, al-Zawahiri, al-Zarqawi (not any more), Ahmadinejad, Hamas, Hizb’allah, Hizb ut-Tahrir etc etc.
    They all quote the Qur’an and the Traditions and no Muslim can refute them - how can they? They’re only saying what the Qur’an teaches.
    The Catch the Fire ministers and other alarmed non-Muslims quote EXACTLY the same verses and suddenly they’re “far right-wing”, bigots, racists and Islamophobes.
    Mr Soliman…... said Mr Howard should think twice about addressing the group.
    “It is a dangerous thing for a senior politician to do,” he said.
    Is that some kind of veiled threat?
    Waleed Aly described Catch the Fire as “spectacularly ignorant”.
    Well Waleed, smooth-talking taqiyya-merchant that you are, perhaps you can enlighten us - did they take the Qur’an quotes “out of context”? Are we infidels so spectacularly ignorant to think literally hundreds of verses of the Qur’an are violent, supremacist, misogynystic etc? What bit of “We will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve….. Jews and Christians are under Allah’s curse…...unbelievers are the “vilest of creatures”.....they will be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet on alternate sides cut off…...Men are in charge of women, because Allah hath made the one of them to excel the other….etc” don’t we understand?
    Federal Opposition Leader Kevin Rudd called the Sheik’s rant obscene and demanded action. What? Does this mean he’s all for outlawing the Qur’an? After all, Sheikh Feiz Mohammed is merely the monkey, not the organ-grinder.
    Good on you, Mr Howard, a leader of a Judeo-Christian country should never cave in to Muslim threats and whining.
    I hope you learn a thing or two from the 2 Dannys.

    Posted by Skid Marx on 2007 01 19 at 10:17 AM • permalink

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