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An email to reader Kae:
Dear Kaelene,
Thank you for your email of 28 March 2008 to the Minister for Veterans’ Affairs, the Hon Alan Griffin MP, concerning the use of the word ‘Anzac’ which appears on Perth Indymedia’s website.
The Minister does take issues about the misuse of the word Anzac seriously. The department’s Commemorations area is investigating this matter urgently, and you will be informed of the outcome of the investigation as soon as it is known.
Thank you for bringing this matter to the Minister’s attention.
Regards
Aaron Jobsz, Assistant Adviser
The Hon Alan Griffin MP, Minister for Veterans’ Affairs
UPDATE. Don’t forget our Kiwi friends.
WTF is up with that Perth Indymedia site? Did they buy up all the extra stationary and fonts from the LOTR film makers?
Posted by Mr. Bingley on 2008 03 27 at 09:55 PM • permalinkBut will they act or pull a iemma and “look into it”
Posted by surfmaster on 2008 03 27 at 09:56 PM • permalinkI do believe that Kaelene has earned herself, a golf-clap.
Posted by Admonkeystrator on 2008 03 27 at 10:01 PM • permalinkGreat work, I’m impressed with the tone of the email- hopefully they chase it up!!
OT, Australian Wildlife running wild in New Zealand.
http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2008/03/27/1206207282301.html#6
NZ under Clark, eh? We can look forward to this kind of stuff if Labor gets in for multiple terms. Oh, the humanity!
Posted by AlburyShifton on 2008 03 27 at 10:19 PM • permalinkI wonder how many of those fancy LOTR flyers they’ve printed? And how many are flyposted all around Perth?
Posted by skepticlawyer on 2008 03 27 at 10:29 PM • permalinkI have no quarrel with Perth Indymedia adopting the name ANZAC, so long as those responsible are willing to take part in a recreation of the Nek.
Posted by Margos Maid on 2008 03 27 at 10:39 PM • permalinkThe real Anzacs will be doing about 2 billion revolutions a minute knowing that they helped create a society so safe and bountiful, that idiocy such as this can flourish unpunished.
Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2008 03 27 at 10:51 PM • permalinkIll post this where its got its own thread now, away from Bryla doing his seagull impression back on the ANZAC post.
Got my reply back to.
Keep piling on folks, they will get the message.“Dear Mr thefrollickingmole (name changed to protect the innocent)
Thank you for your email of 27 March 2008 to the Minister for Veterans’ Affairs, the Hon Alan Griffin MP, concerning the use of the word ‘Anzac’ which appears on Perth Indymedia’s website.
The Minister does take issues about the misuse of the word Anzac seriously. The department’s Commemorations area is investigating this matter urgently, and you will be informed of the outcome of the investigation as soon as it is known.
Thank you for bringing this matter to the Minister’s attention.
Regards”
Looks like its gone from a look at the matter to “investigating this matter urgently” all from a good handfull of Blairs bretheren pestering them.
Well done evryone!Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2008 03 27 at 11:05 PM • permalinkI’d prefer the matter was handled locally, with “investigations” being conducted by the chook chokers.
#4
‘snot my fault! It coulda been worse, it coulda been “Narelle”.My letter:
Dear Mr Griffin
I wish to register my disgust at the use of the acronym ANZAC by a group of people who are clueless about the history, honour and suffering behind the ANZAC name, and who sully this tradition by their disrespect of ANZAC.
Link: to Indymedia site
From the above link:
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As an ex-member of the Army Reserve (Military Number, Name, C Coy 4RNSWR in the late 70s), and a citizen with a deep respect of the Military of Australia, I am extremely annoyed at the hijacking of ANZAC name.
The use of the acronym ANZAC is illegal, outlined at the Department of Veterans Affairs webpage (link: to Dept Veteran Affairs “Protection of Anzac page)
I doubt that permission has been sought to use the ANZAC name, however, if permission has been obtained by these people I would strongly recommend that permission be withdrawn and that they be compelled to abandon the use of the ANZAC acronym.
Kind regards
Kae
Woo Hoo!!!
Just got my confirmation reply back from Hon A Griffin.
Same standard reply as Mole’s and Harry Buttle’s.
Good to see he spent a bit more effort on Kae’s reply. The mention of her time in the Reserves holds extra weight.
Any current and Ex servos, make sure you mention your credentials in your emails.
Maintain the Rage everyone.I’ll be surprised if the Minister for Vets’ Affairs doesn’t take this seriously, especially if the RSL gets to hear about it. The RSL is vigilant about people playing fast and loose with the Anzac name, and politicians listen when the RSL speaks.
Posted by s.r.intulom on 2008 03 27 at 11:50 PM • permalinkJust sent my email to Vet Affairs and the NZ High Commission. Keep em pouring in folks!!!!! Send a copy to all of your friends, this is one email worth sending.
Posted by surfmaster on 2008 03 28 at 12:20 AM • permalinkWoo Hoo!!!
The RSL are on the Hunt!
Thanks XXXX - please note that I only this morning asked the Minister to
intervene on this issue immediately. It is indeed inappropriate. Kind
regards.________________________________________
Derek Robson
National Secretary
RSL National Headquarters
GPO Box 303
Canberra ACT 2601 Australia
Phone: (02) 6248 7199
Fax: (02) 6247 7637
E-mail: .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)
Website: http://www.rsl.org.au
Had to remove my name to protect my innocence. ;)Yeehaaa just got this!
“..Good afternoon
The Minister would like to thank you for bringing this issue concerning the use of the word ‘ANZAC’ which appeared on Perth Indymedia’s website to his attention.
The group responsible has now changed their name. All references to the ANZAC camp are being removed from the Indymedia website.
Regards
Aaron Jobsz | Assistant Adviser
The Hon Alan Griffin MP | Minister for Veterans’ Affairs..”So much for the big bad Brlays boast about not backing down.
Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2008 03 28 at 01:42 AM • permalinkThe article has been removed from Perth Indymedia:
This story has been deleted
Editorial comment: Due to legal concerns etc over the use of the word ANZAC the author of this article has requested its removal - thanks eds
Posted by flying pigs over mecca on 2008 03 28 at 01:43 AM • permalinkVICTORY!!!!!!
Office of the Minister of Veterans Affairsshow details 4:39 PM (4 minutes ago)
Reply
Good afternoonThe Minister would like to thank you for bringing this issue concerning the use of the word ‘ANZAC’ which appeared on Perth Indymedia’s website to his attention.
The group responsible has now changed their name. All references to the ANZAC camp are being removed from the Indymedia website.
Regards
Aaron Jobsz | Assistant Adviser
The Hon Alan Griffin MP | Minister for Veterans’ AffairsM1-17 Parliament House Canberra ACT 2606
Got the same two responses as above, too. Well done everyone!
Posted by Villeurbanne on 2008 03 28 at 01:49 AM • permalinkIf the Turks had the fighting spirit of Perth Indymedia, the good folk of Istanbul would now be enjoying vegemite on toast for breakfast.
Posted by Margos Maid on 2008 03 28 at 01:59 AM • permalinkThey are saying it was all a mistake.
This is the crap they are putting on their blog now:
Owing to a typographical error on our original flyer we have provided this updated invite to the training weekend ;-)No offence was intended to any of the millions of men and women who lost their lives in the horrific bloodbaths of the 20th century.
Please continue with the fiery discussion about the nature and usefulness of nonviolence though - it’s exactly the conversation we were trying to provoke and i was really enjoying it.
cheers,
the aznac crew
Posted by surfmaster on 2008 03 28 at 02:04 AM • permalinkO/T but the full list of the 2020 bollockfest has been released.
Its a bit weird to read Male/Female after each name though.
Some usual suspects.Mr Waleed Aly Male VIC
Ms Sharan Burrow Female VIC
Mr Phillip Adams Male NSW
Mr David Marr Male NSW
Father Frank Brennan Male VIC
Professor Ross Garnaut Male VIC
Professor John Quiggin Male QLDFor a conference looking for ideas out of the box, it seems to contain a lot of people who have been spouting the same ideas for decades.
Heres the
link.Theres bound to be a lot of fun had googleing some of the names.
Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2008 03 28 at 02:06 AM • permalinkAnd Sydney Indymedia are giving the polar bears another run with fossil fools day.
Target the Fools - Pull a prank that packs a punch!
If they won’t set targets, target them instead! Mining executives,
bossy bankers, members of parliament - find clowns investing in coal
and corporate contortionists in your community, grab a bunch of
friends (or in your enviro collective/climate action group)and tell
the media as you oust the fools! Pranks can include polar bears at
petrol stations;
This indymedia lot are a bunch of dickwits.
Posted by surfmaster on 2008 03 28 at 02:19 AM • permalinkKae,
The Minister for Fair Trading would be appropriate as well. It’s virtually impossible to register a trading name containing “ANZAC” and as such, they are probably in breach having not set up any form of structure for the organisation.
But then, considering two pissed off Arabs can form “Australian Coalition for Palestinian Goat Herders” and sign an ad in The Australian, I suspect it’s pretty common… Can’t imagine they’d have much in the way of assets beyond a hairshirt and maybe a bong or two.
It’s a bit late for this thread now, but this is the response I got from the RSL.
Thank you for your consideration. Please be advised that I have passed this detail direct to the Minister’s Chief of Staff requesting urgent and appropriate action be taken against those who would seek to use the word in this manner. Than you for bringing this to my attention – and kind regards.
Posted by Richard Sharpe on 2008 03 28 at 03:29 AM • permalinkWell done to all readers and commenters here who took the time and trouble to correspond with Alan Griffin (Minister for Veteran’s Affairs).
Not often I give a pat on the back to any ALP polly, but in this case it is well deserved.
Prompt and decisive action. Well done, Minister.
Posted by Pedro the Ignorant on 2008 03 28 at 03:54 AM • permalinkI wasn’t only me, I’m sure there were many emails the Minister for Veterans Affairs, the RSL and the New Zealand High Commission.
Pickles, as soon as my email is working again I’ll be sending off another email about the site.
Hey, I just got 4 emails timestamped 6:25pm… posted here at 5:13pm… er, maybe my email is constipated?
It must be a lefty plot!
The Ode
We will remember them.
Onya 10kaePosted by stackja1945 on 2008 03 28 at 05:50 AM • permalinkOnya Kae, if only the Kenna Club at Merrylands was still there I would buy you a drink.
Posted by surfmaster on 2008 03 28 at 06:07 AM • permalinkSorry, not to be a lefty, but rather a libertarian, surely it is free speech to call yourselves “ANZAC,” even if misguided, no? Why should the government be involved? And yes, I am a student of history and fully understand the sacrifices made at Gallipoli, New Guinea, North Africa and elsewhere, and I surely recognize these people have no particular right to that moniker. And yet, government intervention does not seem to be the answer to me. Rather, ridicule from good citizens, such as commenters here, seems more sporting and much more in line with freedom of speech. [/ducks]
Posted by Tommy Shanks on 2008 03 28 at 01:31 PM • permalink#49
Because it’s illegal.
Because the name is licensed, and rightly so, because it’s inappropriate for it to be attached to so much drek going on in the world today.
And it’s quite obvious that without some sort of intervention the acronym would not have been changed, because the disrespectful fools at wIndy Media would not have been forced to change their use of the ANZAC name, because they think it’s all a huge joke.
And it isn’t a joke at all.
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I’m impressed!
Good work Kae and well done to the Minister’s office. Let’s see what comes of this.
—Nora