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Apparently we were invaded by the United Nations overnight:
An $8 million Islamic institute funded by the Australian taxpayer will be the centrepiece of a new $35 million push to bring Muslim and non-Muslim communities closer together ...
The Institute of Islamic Studies, to be established at an as-yet-unnamed university, will provide tertiary accredited undergraduate and postgraduate qualifications and teach subjects ranging from art and commerce to architecture.
We already teach those subjects. How will teaching them to Muslims at an Islamic institute “bring Muslim and non-Muslim communities closer together”?
[Parliamentary Secretary to the Immigration Minister Andrew] Robb said the institute would be an important vehicle for teaching Islam in an Australian context, applying the usual academic rigour of the university system.
I’d love to know what that “Australian context” might be.
The centre is expected to attract moderate Islamic scholars from around the world ...
So much for that “Australian context”, then.
Mr Robb said the institute would be particularly helpful to young Australian Muslims wanting to understand the role of Muslims in Australia.
Should be a short course. “You’re in Australia. Be friendly.”
Other initiatives include a volunteer-staffed counselling and support helpline for the Muslim community based on a successful project in the United Kingdom.
Based on a project in the UK, you say? That’s comforting.
Sounds like appeasement to me. Or maybe “Equal but separate”.
But certainly silly, and a duplication of effort.
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2006 07 16 at 04:23 PM • permalinkSo, nobody in your Immigration Department, rather like ourse, either watches the news or reads the newspapers, let alone the blogs.
How about, “You’re in Australia. Behave.”)
Posted by richard mcenroe on 2006 07 16 at 04:30 PM • permalinkMr Robb said the institute would be an important vehicle for teaching Islam in an Australian context, applying the usual academic rigour of the university system.
Academic weaselspeak for applying multiculti cattle prods to recalcitrant dhimmis.
Other initiatives include a volunteer-staffed counselling and support helpline for the Muslim community based on a successful project in the United Kingdom.
And we have seen how well that works.
“moderate islamic scholars” is one of those word groupings that, while technically not gramatically incorrect, remains highly…uh….improbable, anyway.
other examples include “a dashing syrian officer”; “a level-headed liberal”; and the ever-popular “a conservative college professor”.
Posted by jimmy quest on 2006 07 16 at 05:12 PM • permalinkThe enemy has had years to study the west. They know just how to game the system and how to use our own contradictions against us. The so-called culture war isn’t. It is a war of ideas. If we don’t regain those that allowed us to exist in the first place, we’ll lose. And we’ll (continue to) pay for the privilege.
If it’s anything like any other uni, the kids will spend most of their time drinking beers and sitting on their fat arses.
Posted by Quentin George on 2006 07 16 at 05:59 PM • permalinkGeez, I can’t wait to have an Islamic Australian prime minister, that’ll make me throw up!
The thirty five million dollars is the only thing that’ll bring the communities together!!! It keeps them occupied and ready for the next phase which is acknowledgment within the community which dos’nt want them to be here. I think islam is a delusion in combination with Australian culture. Otherwise we’d still be living in tents if were Islamic state.
Australian government is pathetic.
Remember, it’s important the colony favours Islamites, like in Britain.
While we’re at it… Australia, can we please have more “HONOUR” Islamic killings please for the women? (sic.)
I can’t wait to have more families come here who still believe in this ritual!!
Song for the day!! Nos 3 on the ChartsJust a spoon full of Islam helps the Infidels go down,
The Infidels go down, the Infidels go down,
Just a spoon full of Islam helps the infidels go down, in the most delightful way.Do you have anything to say? This is all umbrage and insinuation designed to set your dogs barking. What exactly is your point? What is your suggestion? Should Muslim and non-Muslim communities NOT be encouraged to understand eachother? It says in the link that the money will “also target disadvantaged Australians who fear and misunderstand Muslims”. Is this your real beef? that you’ll lose your core audience to a rising tide of goodwill between people?
Good to see you dribbling out the corner of your mouth again.
Posted by Miranda Divide on 2006 07 16 at 06:37 PM • permalinkDear Mr. Robb,
It is with great concern I awake today to the news of a new, taxpayer-funded, Institute of Islamic Studies. With all the publicity about health systems in decline, education systems likewise, I am wondering exactly what value this new institute will add.
Also, if our taxes are to be contributing towards more understanding of the Islamic way of life, is there the possibility of and Institute of Buddhist Studies, or Christian Studies, or Scientological Studies?
It is ridiculous and offensive that the government is going out of its way to pander to one minor segment of the community without consideration for all the other minor segments.
As an Anglo-Aussie (under the new, improved nomenclature for Australian citizens), I resent the implication that we have a country full of universities that are so incapable of teaching “subjects ranging from art and commerce to architecture”, that we need to create a new school to do just that. Within an Islamic context.
This new institute is divisive and outrageously discriminatory. There are plenty of existing courses that address Islamic concerns, just as there are existing courses that apply to non-Islamic concerns. Why on earth replicate these?
I also note that you wish to base this new institute on the British model.
The 7/7 London bombers were products of the British system of education and understanding, and nobody considered them to be radical.
How can you guarantee that your new “moderate Islamic scholars” are that? And by whose standards?
Please note that I live in Victoria, and I am well aware of the laws regarding so-called “hate-speech” (aka speaking your mind).
This opinion is my own, although I don’t doubt that there are plenty other members of our country who would feel the same way. They are just afraid of being prosecuted for vilification or discrimination for expressing such an opinion.
Yours sincerely,
Nilk
Posted by Nilknarf Arbed on 2006 07 16 at 06:40 PM • permalink.(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) for those so inclined.
It is monday morning, I am on the tail end of a head cold and I am happy to wake up to this. grrrr.
Posted by Nilknarf Arbed on 2006 07 16 at 06:41 PM • permalink19 Miranda, those “disadvantaged Australians who fear misunderstand Islam?”
What’s to misunderstand? Read Sura and verse 4.34 lately? Read any good ahadith lately?
Did you see the footage of the two US soldiers after the Islamists had finished with them?
Or are we talking of using it as a carrot to get some of those who can’t afford to buy a place at the universities? Lower entry scores, lower HECS, just accept a little lovin from our friendly mullahs?
/really pissed about this. Sorry.
When we can see comparable institutes provided for every other minority then I’ll accept it. We are talking what, 3% of the population?
F*CK THAT!
Posted by Nilknarf Arbed on 2006 07 16 at 06:47 PM • permalinkThe centre is expected to attract moderate Islamic scholars from around the world ...
Both of’em?
It’s surely going to include that Canadian guy from a few threads down who’s only in favour of holy war in the Middle East but not in Western nations. Doesn’t get much more moderate than that!
(That last sentence was supposed to be a joke, but it’s probably pretty close to reality, actually.)
Miranda you self-righteous trull, can you name one country in the world where the Muslim immigrant population does NOT demand their hosts understand and accommodate them while the Muslims DO make the slighest effort to ‘tolerate’ the values already established in those cultures?
Posted by richard mcenroe on 2006 07 16 at 07:29 PM • permalinkSeriously though guys, they are teaching ‘Islamic Commerce’.
I wouldn’t mind sitting in on a few lectures, because I sure as hell can’t imagine how that works…..
Posted by Rachel Corrie's Flatmate on 2006 07 16 at 07:45 PM • permalinkProbably either QUT or Griffith are battling each other for the honours.
Last year I did a subject called “How to become a poof and limpwrist and cry over spilled soup.”
12 credit points.
Got a High Distinction. Cynical me!
Then went to a graduation at Griffith when the idiot of a Chancellor (former Governor - Labour- of Queensland- L. Forde-) started off her address “Before I start, let us all remember the traditional owners of this land upon whom we are presently standing blah blah.”Always great to remember the dinosaurs who owned the land for several million years- longer than any other claimants, putative and pussi, to date
This may be a partial explanation Masculinity & Islam
Posted by WeekByWeek on 2006 07 16 at 08:29 PM • permalinkHmmmm.
I’d love to know what that “Australian context” might be.
Perhaps:
“Achmed! Kill the infidels! And put another halal steak on the barbie!”
Posted by memomachine on 2006 07 16 at 08:29 PM • permalink“disadvantaged Australians who fear and misunderstand Islam?”
And who might these people be? Let me guess - prison inmates with a grudge against society? ‘Disadvantaged’ people who do not have the skills or the intelligence to support themselves? Both are good starting points to recruit followers.
And we Misunderstanders of Islam’ are expected to pay for this privilege? The onus is upon the Islamic community to ‘understand’ the society they have supposedly chosen to live in.
“Good to see you dribbling out the corner of your mouth again.”
If you cant see the agenda behind this project, you are the one doing the dribbling.
saltydog
No, no, no. It’s REversion. We’re all really Muslims, don’t you know, we just need to get back to that old time religion.
Ahhh yes. Knee slapping, church rockin’, roof raisin’, organ vibrating through ones body and mind, OR goose bump raising a cappella, Gregorian Chants, that grab the soul…Something like this
The Islamic, is a truly dreadful person. It is no wonder they wish to die. It is an escape, a freedom.
As someone posted ( I think it was you) “we fight to live, they fight to die”. I can understand why. They really are, the living dead…zombies.
Should Muslim and non-Muslim communities NOT be encouraged to understand each other?
Why does this require application of large sums of taxpayer money?
It says in the link that the money will “also target disadvantaged Australians who fear and misunderstand Muslims”.
The problem is that this is multiculti codespeak for “teach the stupid white proles to kiss Muslim ass and watch what comes out of their troglodyte mouths.” Wanna bet that this “mutual understanding” will be a one-way street?
Hey, here’s a suggestion, Miranda - how about millions of taxpayer dollars to encourage rabid leftys to understand conservatives?
Is this your real beef? that you’ll lose your core audience to a rising tide of goodwill between people?
Ha, ha. Good one. I guess the fact that nowhere in the fucking world do Muslims get along with their neighbors must be because of “misunderstanding” on the part of the dhimmis that can be remedied with some cultural outreach, and watch that goodwill tide rise!
Good to see you dribbling out the corner of your mouth again.
Oh, fuck off, you lefty mouth-breather. The only idiots around here are the ones like you who stubbornly cling to your multiculti fantasies in the face of 1300 years of contrary historical record and the blinding obviousness of current events.
Here’s a plan for you - put on your nicest strapless gown and high heels, do up your hair nice, and ponce off to Saudi and get into some dialogue with the locals in the interest of mutual understanding. And yes, I know you’re a guy.
#10 Jimmy
Dude,
I’m a conservative college professor. At a state university no less. And yes, it is a bit lonely. Fortunately the students are a lot more conservative today than they ever were.
Last time the university asked for suggestions for campus speakers I suggested Ann Coulter. Haven’t gotten a follow-up call yet….We understand Muslims quite well, Miranda. We also understand the rage of people like you: it hurts to have one’s blinders ripped off and be made to face the truth. It’s no wonder you always seem like you’re about to have a rage-induced stroke.
Posted by Andrea Harris, Administrator on 2006 07 16 at 09:13 PM • permalinkAnd Addamo, don’t you dare say a fucking word in this thread. Not one fucking word. You drop a turd of nonsense and run away like a coward while your factually wrong, temporally anachronistic, stunningly illogical spewings get carved and filleted. You don’t have the backbone to defend your idiocy or the dignity to admit it was wrong - you just bleat and flee. Sack up or get lost, you pussy.
Is this your real beef? that you’ll lose your core audience to a rising tide of goodwill between people?
If you and your ilk think that we RWDB’s wouldn’t welcome a “rising tide of goodwill between people”, you are a daft as you seem!
I, for one, would welcome that “tide” with open arms. But, that tide is going to have to be started by the graviational influence of the Religion of Peace, not by those of us (infidels) who are the targets of radical Islamists. What are we to do, show our “goodwill” by gathering in convenient groups to make their self-exploding murderers’ jobs’ easier?
I think the onus is on the Muslims to prove they can share the world peacefully.
Mmmm, people offering me weapons! And they say Christmas comes but once a year. I do believe I’ll take one of each.
Posted by Andrea Harris, Administrator on 2006 07 16 at 09:52 PM • permalinkRobb said the institute would be an important vehicle for teaching Islam in an Australian context, applying the usual academic rigour of the university system.
One, why a special Islamic studies institute to teach art, commerce and architecture—subjects already taught in multiple existing tertiary institutions?
Two, “the usual academic rigour”? Not sure what that is, to judge by output of most university departments with “studies” in the name.
If intellectual rigour were really applied, the institute simply wouldn’t be built.
And if there’s need for a special islamic institute, why doesn’t the government fund a special place where Buddhists (who are far more numerous in Aust than Muslims) can study art, commerce etc? And another one for the Scientologists, and so on?
Dhimmi twaddle.
Posted by arrowhead ripper on 2006 07 16 at 10:30 PM • permalinkConsiderate to have courses studying architecture. The will know the most vulnerable points on the sky-scrapers for the planes to hit.
Posted by Susan Norton on 2006 07 16 at 10:56 PM • permalinkMiranda, woof, woof.
What this all boils down to is educating Australians how to behave. This education will be one way only. Your resident terrorists don’t give a rats about changing ANYTHING except for your country. What they want is real-estate and power. They don’t want to get along. They want to dominate. Show me one place in the world where muslims are actively seeking acceptance in their host nation. You can’t because that place doesn’t exist. If the aren’t actively trying to destroy all that doesn’t conform to them, they are utterly silent and biding their time.
the money will “also target disadvantaged Australians who fear and misunderstand Muslims”.
Well, technically, what the words say is that money will be spent re-educating feckheads like Miranda. At this juncture, education - let alone re-education - appears to be impossible with such regressive cases.
Bearing this impossibility in mind, I fear they are instead trying to take the soft option of trying to drag everyone else down to their level.
Lobotomies would be cheaper. They also could be effectively applied to the needy like the twat who trolled above. They do great things with liposuction needles these days.
Posted by stahlblume on 2006 07 17 at 09:14 AM • permalinkSeriously though guys, they are teaching ‘Islamic Commerce’.
I wouldn’t mind sitting in on a few lectures, because I sure as hell can’t imagine how that works…..
in Islamic Commerce, charging interest is forbidden so they need to teach these students how to apply fees that always seem to add up to Prime + 1%. It’s all very complicated and probably requires several semesters of study.
An $8 million Islamic institute funded by the Australian taxpayer will be the centrepiece of a new $35 million push to bring Muslim and non-Muslim communities closer together…
...and the other $27 million (also “funded by the Australian taxpayer”)...?
Posted by Old Grouch on 2006 07 17 at 02:02 PM • permalink#58 Thanks, Ushie. Luckily, no keyboard required, although I had just finished one coughing fit!
ROFLMAO
Posted by Nilknarf Arbed on 2006 07 17 at 07:12 PM • permalinkThe only wisdom you creeps have is received.
Posted by Miranda Divide on 2006 07 17 at 07:27 PM • permalinkHuzzah! Another Miranda classic.
And we thank you for the wisdom received from you Miranda, which you see reflected back every day in this blog.
A thousand low bows and petals spread on your path.
Posted by Stop Continental Drift! on 2006 07 17 at 08:22 PM • permalink
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Academic rigour?, in a university?, no f*****g chance.