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Barack Obama is the new George McGovern:
If you look at Obama’s vote in Pennsylvania, you begin to see the outlines of the old George McGovern coalition that haunted the Democrats during the ‘70s and ‘80s, led by college students and minorities. In Pennsylvania, Obama did best in college towns (60 to 40 percent in Penn State’s Centre County) and in heavily black areas like Philadelphia.
Scroll down for previous 1972-ish thoughts. Meanwhile, Hillary is the new Al Gore:
One thing many people haven’t noticed about Hillary Clinton’s 55% to 45% victory over Barack Obama in the Pennsylvania primary is that it put her ahead of Obama in the popular vote.
(Via James Taranto)
UPDATE. The New York Times is in deep Democrat despair. Paul Krugman:
Mr. Obama was supposed to be a transformational figure, with an almost magical ability to transcend partisan differences and unify the nation. Once voters got to know him — and once he had eliminated Hillary Clinton’s initial financial and organizational advantage — he was supposed to sweep easily to the nomination, then march on to a huge victory in November.
Well, now he has an overwhelming money advantage and the support of much of the Democratic establishment — yet he still can’t seem to win over large blocs of Democratic voters, especially among the white working class ...
Unless Democrats can get past this self-inflicted state of confusion, there’s a very good chance that they’ll snatch defeat from the jaws of victory this fall.
You can almost feel the air seeping out of the Obama phenomenon. The candidate and his aides are brainstorming ways to counter the Clinton death-ray machine and regain the momentum. They need to generate some new excitement and enthusiasm, and they need to do it soon.
One of the problems is that anger is growing like a cancer among Democrats ...
What we’re witnessing here — in what was supposed to have been a championship season for Democrats — is a potential train wreck.
Hillary grows more and more glowy as Obama grows more and more wan.
Is she draining him of his precious bodily fluids? Leeching his magic? Siphoning off his aura?
Only Frank Rich is holding fast to the dream:
The Democrats’ unending brawl may be supplying prime time with a goodly share of melodrama right now, but there will be laughter aplenty once the Republican campaign that’s not ready for prime time emerges from the wings.
Keep those chins up, Frank.
Counting popular votes unduly discounts the results from caucuses, in which many fewer people participate than in primaries. And the Democratic Party can’t afford to alienate the young and black voters who enthusiastically back Obama.
These arguments will probably prevail. Yet Clinton’s popular-vote lead is one piece of evidence that suggests that Obama will be a weak general-election candidate.
Probably true. Too bad the GOP is saddled with an even weaker one, whose strategy for victory seems to be attacking his own party, rather than his opponent’s.
Also, Hillary’s “popular vote” total includes Michigan and Florida, which DNC Chairman Howard “I have a Scream” Dean has insisted will not be counted.
Posted by Spiny Norman on 2008 04 27 at 12:27 PM • permalinkObama as the “new George McGovern” (or, as I noted at C.L.‘s place, “Generation X’s George McGovern”) is certainly possible, but that’s only if Obama loses. If he wins, Obama will become the “new Jimmy Carter”.
But the McGovern scenario tickles my fancy the most, as cause the chattering class (national and international) to implode over us xenophobic, gun clinging religious fanatics not giving a damn about racial qualifications for the White House.
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2008 04 27 at 12:42 PM • permalinkracial qualifications
Really. How many of those European countries whose “sophisticates” are so disdainful of the US have had a black man as a President or Prime Minister, or even one considered a viable candidate? Hell, I don’t expect the most disdainful of them all, France, to have one in my lifetime.
Posted by Spiny Norman on 2008 04 27 at 12:56 PM • permalinkThe “Clinton death-ray machine”?
Wronwright, did you leave the back gate to Area 51 open again?
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2008 04 27 at 12:56 PM • permalinkOh, and MoDo ought to know about draining body fluids. I suspect that she sleeps during the day in a dirt filled coffin.
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2008 04 27 at 12:57 PM • permalinkSpiny, spot on. Hypocrites one and all.
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2008 04 27 at 12:59 PM • permalinkThe Left as personified in Obama is once more trying to evoke the Children’s Crusade.
Fact: I didn’t know jack at age 21
Fact: You didn’t know jack at age 21
Fact: No one knows jack at age 21So, who the thinks that the judgment of a lot of 21-year-olds makes a valid political movement? Only those who cynically exploit them.
Posted by Harry Bergeron on 2008 04 27 at 01:02 PM • permalinkFrom MoDo’s column.
James Clyburn, the influential black congressman from South Carolina, says that some blacks are buying into the 2012 Tonya Harding conspiracy theory: that the Clintons know they can’t beat Obama this time, so they are “hell-bound,” as Clyburn put it, to shred him so he’ll lose to McCain and Hillary will be able to try again in 2012 — when McCain is 76.
Well duh.
Spiny Norman—France will never have a black President.
A Caliph, now that’s possible…
Thomas—That would assume the Clintons believe the Republicans seen McCain as more than a one-term ‘anyone but THOSE two’ candidate. I assure you, that is not a certainty.
Posted by richard mcenroe on 2008 04 27 at 01:56 PM • permalinkI haven’t really kept up with Obama’s ethnic appeal…I suppose his “appeal with minorities” really just means appeal with blacks, but not so much with any other group?
It would be incredibly funny to see Obama nominated and then do worse than even McGovern. Though really, I’d settle for him doing as “well” as Carter in 1980 or Mondale in 1984.
It would be incredibly funny to see Obama nominated and then do worse than even McGovern.
Given that McGovern lost in HUGE landslide to Nixon, that would be hard to match. But hilarious, I agree!
I suppose his “appeal with minorities” really just means appeal with blacks, but not so much with any other group?
Not so much “appeal”, PW, as it is the left’s “identity politics”, especially since Obama isn’t much of a minority (his mother being white and all).
In this sense, the left does indeed reach back to it’s Democratic party pre-Civil War roots, when one was classified by race, period. If one had only one black parent, one was “black”, and so on. Too bad they had to keep this nonsense alive.
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2008 04 27 at 04:19 PM • permalink...20 years of accomplishing almost nothing, and a total lack of substance in his so-called “plan for the nation and the world”?
John Kerry redux?
BTW, Kerry has been in the US Senate for 20 years and accomplished exactly nothing except get reelected.
Posted by Spiny Norman on 2008 04 27 at 04:26 PM • permalink“Is she draining him of his precious bodily fluids?”
Perhaps she got some pointers from Monika.
Posted by brian_smaller on 2008 04 27 at 05:57 PM • permalinkYou can almost feel the air seeping out of the Obama phenomenon.
Not on Sunday ABC Arts Show, where Virginia Trioli made sure her jazz singer guest had his chance to comment on US politics, just because he claims friendship with Obama.
Obama was going to be a transformative, wonderful change for the USA, he said.. Surprise, surprise.#16 RebeccaH -
So, Obama’s fading star has everything to do with Hillary Clinton’s death-ray machine, and nothing to do with Reverend Wright, William Ayers, 20 years of accomplishing almost nothing, and a total lack of substance in his so-called “plan for the nation and the world”?
Well, yes. Karl’s orders. I’m supposed to go retrieve the death race machine (it’s on wheels, I have a hitch on the back of my SUV) in about a week. If Obama doesn’t surge back, then I release some more videos of Hillary (one of her in a mini-skirt, circa 1970) etc.
Back and forth, back and forth. That’s Karl’s orders.
Posted by wronwright on 2008 04 27 at 07:28 PM • permalinkyet he still can’t seem to win over large blocs of Democratic voters
Could it be that even these lowly white working class voters are, actually, like, you know, patriotic. And they don’t like Obama’s lack of patriotism????
Posted by Wimpy Canadian on 2008 04 27 at 08:57 PM • permalinkMcGovern tut-tutted after Watergate. Dems hoping for a re-run?
Posted by stackja1945 on 2008 04 27 at 09:31 PM • permalink#21— Dammit, wronwright, do I gotta do everything around here…?
Posted by Deborah Leigh on 2008 04 27 at 11:10 PM • permalinkRe #26, AAAAIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!
MUST FIND BLEACH….....
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2008 04 27 at 11:47 PM • permalinkOw. *sigh* Ow. #26 was me, too… Richard McEnroe.
Ow.
Posted by Deborah Leigh on 2008 04 27 at 11:51 PM • permalink#26 Debotrah,
Bill said he married Hillary for her mind. That, I guess, is the single true statement he made in his entire life.Posted by Michael Lonie on 2008 04 28 at 12:17 AM • permalink#29 Michael; Married her for her open, way open mind. “Do you, Hillary, promise to overlook, ennable, and protect Bill’s philandering, so long as you both have a shot at power?” “I do.”
Posted by dean martin on 2008 04 28 at 03:50 AM • permalink#26 Thanks Deborah. That’s one I can cross off. If we eventually need to post it, could you post the one of Hillary in a bikini with a come hither look, circa 1971? I don’t think I have the guts to do it.
Posted by wronwright on 2008 04 28 at 05:52 AM • permalink#33 Wron, you didn’t receive the memo? Richard (McEnroe) tried to let everyone know that he was using my laptop at the party last night (after placed a few jabs to his arm). The lapse could be blamed on the pints, the food, frivolity, but mostly the pints. I couldn’t bring myself to post that, but I know someone who could, and would. Oh, Richard! Your services are needed!
Posted by Deborah Leigh on 2008 04 28 at 02:20 PM • permalink#33—wronwright: What about this? Or this?
or this one? Too bad that ain’t Michelle Obama...
Posted by richard mcenroe on 2008 04 28 at 08:25 PM • permalinkOwwwww. Why didn’t I just trust that McEnroe had authentic photos of Hillary? Why must I always have to double check them?
Okay, we’ll release them a week after we release another Rev. Wright video explaining that blacks can’t be racist because they’re better than whitey. That one shows Michelle nodding yes.
Posted by wronwright on 2008 04 29 at 05:13 AM • permalink
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Hey, I was young and naive, and in college…a follower, if you will. A McGovernite, but not hard core lefty material. It was…ummm…just a youthful fling.
Oh, you had no idea?
Damn!