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Popular anti-Bush (but pro-forces) site bartcop.com used to run a prominent daily body count of US troops killed in Iraq. It’s now been reduced to a mere link. The publisher explains:

Since feedback tells me a clear majority of bartcop.com readers believe our soldiers are “no different” than the scumbag 9-11 hijackers, I felt uncomfortable counting the who sacrificed their lives for their country, as tho they got what was coming to them.

Imagine running a site that attracts a “clear majority” of people who think like that. And imagine how heartbreaking it must be when they’re from your side.

Posted by Tim B. on 06/25/2005 at 12:27 PM
  1. Nice readership.

    Posted by Mr. Bingley on 2005 06 25 at 01:52 PM • permalink

  2. Imagine how much of an idiot one must be to not have seen this coming, running a site with content like that.

    Posted by PW on 2005 06 25 at 02:30 PM • permalink

  3. You’d think that would be an eye-opener, wouldn’t you?

    Posted by RebeccaH on 2005 06 25 at 03:51 PM • permalink

  4. His eyes won’t open, RebeccaH.  I’ve given up expecting they ever will.  When will we finally accept that what we are asked to dismiss as the “fringe” of the Democratic Party is actually its voice?  How many times to we have to hear a Dean, a Durbin, a Pelosi, Reid, Kennedy or other “mainstream” Democrat parrot a line bubbling up out of the mire of the DU or Daily Kos before we acknowledge that?

    Posted by richard mcenroe on 2005 06 25 at 04:38 PM • permalink

  5. You know the old saying: “Lie down with dogs, get up with fleas.”

    Posted by Quentin George on 2005 06 25 at 06:36 PM • permalink

  6. Anti-Bush but Pro-Forces?
    Sounds like confused ALP-type thinking.
    Yeah! We love the Forces, support them all the way. Don’t like them actually being used, unless it is in a disarmed UN Peacekeeping role. Prefer that they shrink over time and cost even less, until they are incapable of being used for anything meaningful.
    After the next disastrous terror attack, they might realise that this time it is really about who can be the biggest bastard, and that nice guys will, in fact, run last.
    The Forces know this already.

    Posted by blogstrop on 2005 06 25 at 07:46 PM • permalink

  7. *sigh*

    I think you’re right, richard.

    Posted by RebeccaH on 2005 06 25 at 09:37 PM • permalink

  8. The only thing creepier than the celebration by the left of the thousandth coalition death in Iraq (including non-combat deaths) was the second celebration of the thousandth death (combat related only) as if the first celebration had never occured.

    Posted by Thomas on 2005 06 25 at 09:48 PM • permalink

  9. Douglas Wood lost his freedom at gunpoint; Danny Nalliah and Daniel Scot lost theirs by court-ordered political correctness. We know who rescued Mr. Wood; who will save the pastors?

    Posted by guinsPen on 2005 06 25 at 10:34 PM • permalink

  10. Yeah! We love the Forces, support them all the way. Don’t like them actually being used, unless it is in a disarmed UN Peacekeeping role. Prefer that they shrink over time and cost even less, until they are incapable of being used for anything meaningful.

    And don’t you ever even try to close a base in my district, you racist fascist reactionary baby killers!!!

    Posted by nofixedabode on 2005 06 25 at 10:45 PM • permalink

  11. You forgot ‘imperialist,’ nofixedabode.

    Posted by Achillea on 2005 06 26 at 12:41 AM • permalink

  12. You know the old saying: “Lie down with dogs, get up with fleas.”

    Bingo. I have no doubt that there are lefty people who earnestly oppose Bush for principled reasons (even if I might think those principles are crap); the problem is that they’re still part of the whole “the ends justify the means” thinking that infests the base of the Left, resulting in them using the same over-the-top rhetoric that the truly deranged far-left elements use.

    Reasonable lefties who don’t believe in TEJTM have jumped ship to Dubya in the last election, realizing where their priorities should be, and appalled at their former brethren who don’t seem to recognize any boundaries in political discourse anymore. And reasonable lefties who do believe in TEJTM are frequently flabbergasted that there are people who seem to sound exactly like them 95% of the time (other reasonable lefties, surely), but will additionally call for soldiers to be killed and Republicans to be assassinated (whoops, not so reasonable after all?). The Bartcop guy is merely exhibit 1,745 of this phenomenon.

    Frankly, I’m close to reaching the same stage as Richard already has. If these people haven’t wised up to the true nature of their “friends” on the far Left, I can only conclude they’re willfully deluding themselves. By now, the rhetoric of hate is the basis of the Democratic Party. A strong minority actively espouses it, and a passive majority closes their eyes and ears and goes along with it. Hmm, dare I draw parallels to Islam and its Islamofascist minority?

    Posted by PW on 2005 06 26 at 03:16 AM • permalink

  13. Hmm, dare I draw parallels to Islam and its Islamofascist minority?

    Dare, PW.  Because I think you nailed this one on the head. 

    More to the point, I think they are afraid of change.  The Democratic National Party has always practiced a form of conservative behavior (i.e., maintain the status quo), and offered this to their constituents.  This brought about some truly bizarre behavior that I observed when I lived in Chicago (a genuine Democratic bastion) years ago.

    Now, the DNC itself has changed, and not for the better.  The passive majority, always used to the status quo, can’t accept the change emotionally, and delude themselves that the DNC remains the same.  The few that think for themselves jumped ship to Dubya.  The rest cower in their homes, and stick with the same political party that their parents were in, because it’s more comfortable. 

    Lord, we are comparing the members of a world wide religion to the members of a long standing American political party.  How pathetic can this get?  The DNC must be digging every hour of every day to have gotten this low.

    Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2005 06 26 at 03:54 AM • permalink

  14. I think ther always is a tendency to defend the indefensible if an individual’s views are otherwise in alignment with your own. 

    What about on the right? I would like to think that those who are right of centre would disown a lunar right, gun toting survivalist, but I bet even describing them in such a fashion could have some righties coming out in their defense.

    Personally, I believe that the right has been more successful in dissasociating themselves from its fringe dwellers, which I am sure is the secret of recent electoral success.

    The left OTOH appears to have embraced the moonbats on the extreme fringe, or at least allowed them to be its spokesmen (sorry, spokespersons).  With consequent electoral devestation.

    Ironic really, when often there is little difference in actual philosophy between the lunar right and the moonbat left, the key differences in opinion being who should be in charge.

    Posted by entropy on 2005 06 26 at 07:35 AM • permalink

  15. That and they tend to keep to themselves as they’re usually quite paranoid.

    Posted by Aging Gamer on 2005 06 26 at 12:58 PM • permalink

  16. Achillea-

    Duly noted, thanks.

    Posted by nofixedabode on 2005 06 26 at 02:42 PM • permalink

  17. entropy — We don’t have to.  They disown us.

    Posted by richard mcenroe on 2005 06 27 at 12:06 AM • permalink

  18. Yes, the main difference between left-wing crazies and right-wing whackos is that the militia types are anti-any-government (and thus not particularly amenable to party structures anyway), while the hard-left folks are merely anti-Republican-Party-government. Or in fewer words, the right-wing guys retreat to the fringe, while the left-wing guys try to bring the fringe into the center.

    Posted by PW on 2005 06 27 at 12:32 AM • permalink

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