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“NORMAL HUMAN CONTEXT” MISSING
Taliban embed David Loyn fields a few questions from BBC viewers:
Q: Do the Taleban foresee a time when they will lay down their arms and stop fighting? What is their objective and can they see a time when there will be peace?
Edward McCarthy, Edinburgh, UKA: ‘Islam’ means ‘the way of peace’. That is their dream. But it may not be achievable in any normal human context, Edward. Rather like the dreams of communism the struggle may be as important as the result. They were very surprised that when they brought relative security to most of the country in 1996 the international community did not congratulate them.
Ingrates. More on this from J.F. Beck.
They were very surprised that when they brought relative security to most of the country in 1996 the international community did not congratulate them.
Anyone see the video from the soccer stadium of 10-11 Burqa clad women who were on their knees while the Taliban executioner casually walked behind them and shot each one in the back of the head? Couldn’t have those purported adulteresses running around destabilizing the relative security now could they? To hell with them and anyone who supports them (David Haw Haw Loyn).
You’ve come to expect that your average mussie in many backward parts of the world is a bit of a mental defective, but what the hell would be the excuse for this friggin’ clown….
I’d suggest that the BBC ought to punish this @rsehole by, if not firing his lame @ss outright, then sending him to the fartherest flung sh!thole until he can acquire some semblance of a clue…
But lets face it, if he’s covering the Taliban in Afghanistan, someone there has probably already tried this remedy with him, and the fruitcake is no closer to wising up… These are the sort of people you might almost like the Taliban to practice a bit of their patented relative security on…
A sturdy unused goal post should suffice to string this @sshole up, maybe they could get him to write a final column before they let him dangle, see if he can add any context then to what is about to befall him, and the relative merits of both the struggle and the dream!!!!
I never cease to be amazed by the likes of David Loyn and their ability to overlook such things as the human rights records of groups like the Taliban especially where women are concerned. Does anybody ask them nasty questions or do they just surround themselves with blinkered nit wits like themselves. I am quite sure the left will only be satisfied when all women are wearing burqas. David Loyn will help sew the bloody things as a sign of mutual respect. Do they think of womens rights at all.
It isn’t just women’s rights, it is the right of the individual to own his or her own life. As such, the men there don’t have rights anymore than the women (which is probably why they’ve nothing better to do than go around murdering all and sundry). Have a scraggly beard? Then you’re in trouble. Want to play some music? No. Want to watch a little TV? No. Want to fly a kite? No. Want to think for yourself? No. Want to live? HA!
There is no excuse for the likes of Mr. Lyon and his fellow travelers. They are the enemy. The Taliban is nothing. Mr. Lyon, and his employers, are the enablers. It is they who are soaking the world in blood.
Anyone see the video from the soccer stadium of 10-11 Burqa clad women who were on their knees while the Taliban executioner casually walked behind them and shot each one in the back of the head?
No, but I have seen one of a couple of women being stoned to death for alleged adultery in that same haven of progressive thought.
Hmmm… two women but no men, eh? Funny about that. Especially considering that Islam is the ‘Religion of Peace which was the First Religion to Support Equal Rights for Women’.
Watching the two women cower on the ground while a couple of hundred bearded thugs pelted them with cricket ball-sized rocks while screaming “Allah al akbah” is an emetic experience.
And I have seen few things sadder than watching the poor women cower under the stones while they tried keep their bleeding heads covered by their burqas - to protect their modesty of course.
They should show it on TV every night, in the news hour, just to remind us what the Religion of Peace is all about.
NEVER FORGET.
Posted by Apparatchik on 2006 10 30 at 05:50 AM • permalinkDerrida, seeing all sides and their faults, comes down on the side of the West
Despite my very strong reservations about the American, indeed European, political posture, about the ``international terrorist’’ coalition, despite all the de facto betrayals, all the failures to live up to democracy, international law, and the very international institutions that the states of this ``coalition’’ themselves founded and supported up to a certain point, I would take the side of the camp that, in principle, by right of law, leaves a perspective open to perfectibility in the name of the ``political,’’ democracy, international law, international institutions, and so forth. Even if this ``in the name of’’ is still merely an assertion and a purely verbal committment. Even in its most cynical mode, such an assertion still lets resonate within it an invincible promise. I don’t hear any such promise coming from ``bin Laden,’’ at least not one in this world.
Whereas the left sees cynicism as a superior political position to be taken. ``We are better than you : we can deplore the West.’‘
That also postpones the payoff to the next world
This guy is “embedded” with the taliban? So when the good guys finally drop a 1000lb bomb on these pricks, they will have been “deliberately targeting journalists”...
Lets hope its full of napalm.
Posted by The_Wizard_of_WOZ on 2006 10 30 at 08:52 AM • permalinkbut it is impossible to say how enthusiastic the villagers really are.
... possibly because their guests are holding AK-47s?
Why is the BBC consorting with the enmey, distributing their propaganda?
Posted by Wimpy Canadian on 2006 10 30 at 09:20 AM • permalink#13, “Why is the BBC consorting with the enmey, distributing their propaganda?”
“... possibly because their guests are holding AK-47s?”
You answered your own question methinks…
Posted by The_Wizard_of_WOZ on 2006 10 30 at 09:54 AM • permalinkEnemy*, Sorry I had meant to correct that before submitting.
Posted by The_Wizard_of_WOZ on 2006 10 30 at 09:55 AM • permalinkDont laugh. Remember that “journalist” from the UK that decided it was ok to drive a white SUV around intermixed with Iraqi fighters in white SUVs and got himself killed?
BBC’s spin on that“He said it was his view the American tanks had been first to open fire on the ITN crew’s two vehicles.” - Link in #16
He was fired on by a tank and only had bullet wounds? Methinks restraint has been clearly exercised.
White van vs 120mm smoothbore? Anyone in the forces (we have M1’s down under now) got some evidence as to the results? For that matter, how about Ol’ Ma Deuce vs white van?
“I have no doubt it was the fact that the vehicle stopped to pick up survivors that prompted the Americans to fire on that vehicle,”
Hmm, tanks open fire on suspicious vehicles, another suspicious vehicle (may or may not have been marked as ambo, linked story doesnt say) comes to take the ‘survivors’ away.
Tanks have very poor external visibility (for a real good reason). What would you do?
Posted by The_Wizard_of_WOZ on 2006 10 30 at 10:35 AM • permalinkThanks heaps Tex, lets me know if the reply didnt work.
Posted by The_Wizard_of_WOZ on 2006 10 30 at 01:41 PM • permalinkI did not see any women during my stay. They always remain behind closed doors when men are around. These may look like severe restrictions. The Taleban see them as a mark of respect.
Or perhaps, of abject fear?
This idiot Loyn already had his agenda marked out before he ever set foot in the country. In his eyes, the Taliban are romantic revolutionaries, and he will not see them any other way.
CREDIT WHERE DUE
“They were very surprised that when they brought relative security to most of the country in 1996 the international community did not congratulate them.”
Those were some of the nicest looking mass graves I’ve ever seen.
Posted by Dave Surls on 2006 10 30 at 09:41 PM • permalink
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So it’s a surprise when ‘the religion of peace’ actually achieves peace (via the sacrifice of every freedom) while every Western country has it…well, except France- interesting.