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ONCE, TWICE, THREE TIMES HILALI
The Australian’s Richard Kerbaj—who deserves a Walkley award, and police protection, for his work exposing the views of Australia’s Muslim leaders—continues checking the record:
Taj Din al-Hilali has praised militant jihadists in Iraq and Afghanistan, calling them men of the highest order for fighting against coalition forces - which include Australian soldiers - to “liberate” their homelands.
In an interview on Arabic radio two weeks ago, the imam based at Sydney’s Lakemba mosque said he was opposed to terror attacks in Madrid, London and New York but strongly endorsed fighters in the Palestinian territories, Iraq and Afghanistan.
In the interview, Sheik Hilali pays tribute to Sayyid Qutb, the ideologue of the Muslim Brotherhood and intellectual mentor of Osama bin Laden and al-Qa’ida.
“Jihad of the liberator of Palestine, that’s the greatest and cleanest and highest ... jihad which lifts our heads in pride in south Lebanon,” Sheik Hilali says in the October 17 interview.
Hilali is on the same page as insurgent groupie Antony Loewenstein:
The Iraq war has never been more unpopular and delusions have never been greater. Working towards, and advocating, “Coalition” defeat has been achieved.
Further from Imam Antony:
The simple truth is that Israel’s long-term security lies with the Arab world, not a superpower thousands of miles away. A superpower, it should be noted, that has suffered an inglorious and welcome defeat in Iraq ...
Loewenstein has previously claimed not to be anti-American. Speaking of liars, wailin’ Hilali is spinning like a Wankel:
On Thursday the imam of the Lakemba Mosque, Sheik Taj el-Din al Hilaly, went on television and lied. Brazenly. In an interview with A Current Affair, Hilaly was asked to justify his comments that women bore the ultimate responsibility for the crime of rape, specifically his comment: “If one puts uncovered meat out in the street then the cats come and eat it, is it the fault of the cat or the uncovered meat? The uncovered meat is the problem.”
Hilaly’s response, in Arabic, came via his translator and spin doctor, Keysar Trad: “He’s saying that the man is responsible, that the cat is responsible.”
Absolute rubbish.
It’s all part of a campaign to demonise Islam:
A radical Islamic group accused of infiltrating mosques and urging Muslims to rise up against Australian troops serving in Iraq has again been caught distributing inflammatory leaflets.
Members of the Hizb ut-Tahrir (Party of Liberation) were seen handing out leaflets outside Sydney’s Lakemba mosque, claiming the furore about Sheik Taj Din al-Hilali’s comments was the latest effort in the West’s “campaign to demonise Islam and intimidate the Muslim community”.
Hizbies are legal here, for some reason.
UPDATE. Medical drama in Lakemba:
An ambulance and riot squad officers have arrived at the Sydney mosque where Muslim leaders are meeting to discuss the future of controversial cleric Sheik Taj al-Din al-Hilaly.
Two paramedics took oxygen resuscitation equipment into the sheik’s office at the Lakemba mosque but it was unclear whom they were going to treat.
An ambulance spokesman said officers were tending to a person who was believed to have collapsed.
It’s a rare collapse that is attended by the riot squad:
Officers from the NSW police riot squad arrived at the mosque shortly after the ambulance turned up.
NSW police said they were there as a precaution.
UPDATE II. Sheik down:
The beleaguered Sheik Taj el-Din al Hilaly has been rushed to hospital after falling ill as a meeting with the Lebanese Muslim Association met to decide his future.
Even Muslims are fed up with Antony Loewenstein.
Only one number missing from this little quote from the thicksheik.
“In the radio interview, Sheik Hilali says Qutb interpreted the Koran in the “finest manner”. “Sayyid Qutb is an intellectual man ... who gave up his soul in 66 for Islam.”
I think the right number might be 666, One of those lovely intellectuals allong the lines of Mao or Pol Pot perhaps?
Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2006 10 29 at 09:18 PM • permalink#4
Can we also award an anonymous, and hopefully not posthumous, Walkley to the brave soul who taped and leaked Hilali’s cat-meat rant?
Not as brave as you think. A large number of Muslims take tape recorders to Mosque and record important sermons in much the same way a student might tape-record a lecture. In other words, carrying a recording device into Lakemba Mosque won’t attract much attention. Rather like Glock pistols I suppose.
As for the ‘leak’, bear in mind there are a considerable number of Muslims who would love to stick it up Hilaly for various reasons.
Regardless, Hilaly is not the sole problem, and sacking or deporting him will not solve the problem - that there are many, many who agree with him on this matter and plenty more. They, and their offspring are the problem.
Ok, someone has to explain this to me.
I can understand being “anti-war” in the sense of abhorring casualties and destruction, and wanting it to end. I can see the reason there.
But surely any sane person, if given the choice, would want the triumph of the Iraqi government and the Coalition forces over the “insurgents”.
I mean, these insurgents are killing Muslims indiscriminatly, blowing up mosques and issuing proclamations that are, without any shadow of a doubt, repressive and fascist.
So why does anyone, Muslim or otherwise, want these guys to win? Especially so-called “liberals?”
Posted by Quentin George on 2006 10 29 at 09:55 PM • permalinkNo wonder actual liberals like Oliver Kamm or Christopher Hitchens must feel like they’ve slipped into some sort of bizarro world…
Posted by Quentin George on 2006 10 29 at 09:55 PM • permalinkThe man who allowed the Sheik to stay in Australia, <a href=“http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,20668331-1702,00.html”>Paul Keating<>, has something in common with the sexist “Mufti”:
And he also singled out
uncovered meata female journalist, telling her: “I will not be harassed by journalists, even by pretty ones like you.#2 Was the comment you referenced the one that’s (now) been censored, Dan? And if yes, maybe you can paraphrase it for us.
Posted by andycanuck on 2006 10 29 at 09:58 PM • permalinkHeh. Bill Leak’s latest cartoon could apply to either the Sheik or the “harrassed” Paul Keating!
I still don’t even begin to understand Antoine’s fascination with the crazy world of modern Islam. Maybe he saw that old Shirley Temple movie, Wee Willie Winkie, on television as a kid and he’s had a man-crush on Cesar Romero’s Muslim-chieftain character all these years. Or maybe the camel was his favorite animal at the zoo. Or maybe he’s into the polygamy thing. Hard to tell. But nothing he’s written explains it.
#10, Quentin George:
Kinda makes you wonder doesn’t it? This seems as broken and dysfunctional as the kind of person that would sit at a booth at a restaurant, waiting for the waitress to give him his bill, while the place is burning down around him.
Don’t laugh. That kind of thing happens. Some people are so locked into a particular “pattern” that nothing, not even threat of horrid death, can shake them out of it.
Somewhat OT, but Dan, where can I get a swimsuit with the ‘uncovered meat’ design?
I think it would be perfect for me to wear down the local pool.
We have a lot of members of a broad strata of society here, and I’m sure in their rush to support women of all makes and sizes I won’t be stoned if I wear it.
Posted by Nilknarf Arbed on 2006 10 29 at 10:41 PM • permalinkI agree with #8.
Australia’s had enough experience with crocodile relocation programs to know that just because you move a 10 foot croc out of an area close to civilisation doesn’t guarantee that the next croc that moves in and takes up residence will be any smaller. Sometimes you move the 10 foot croc on, only to have it replaced by a 16 footer.
Mark Steyn comments elsewhere today in his discourse on the growing globalisation of extreme Islam:-
“The invaluable Brussels Journal recently translated an interview with the writer Oscar van den Boogaard from the Belgian paper De Standaard. A Dutch gay “humanist” (which is pretty much the trifecta of Eurocool), van den Boogaard was reflecting on the accelerating Islamification of the Continent and concluding that the jig was up for the Europe he loved. “I am not a warrior, but who is?” he shrugged. “I have never learned to fight for my freedom. I was only good at enjoying it.”Such profundity. This applies to Australia as well. Europe might be a lost cause, and I suspect it is, but maybe there is still hope here. Well, whilever Howard remains Prime Minister anyway. It will be a very slippery slope to Euroislamification if Beasley gets in, no doubt about it.
Hilaly may be a 7th century freakshow, but at least he’s opened some very important eyes in this country. Many of the denialists are now aware that there really is a problem. For that we can thank him as he gets bundled off into the shadows of anonymity.
#14
Was the comment you referenced the one that’s (now) been censored, Dan? And if yes, maybe you can paraphrase it for us.
Not sure what you mean. I linke to a Muslim discussin thread, not Loewenstein’s censor-blog. It doesn’t appear to have been changed. Basically, it was a real nice sounding Islamist called “Intifada” giving a half-arsed disinterested mention of Loewenstein’s latest appearance. After giving the details, he commented:
i personally am not that enthused but, yanno…
and
i don’t really like loewenstein’s politics and to be honest i’m rather bored of him nowadays.. but i know there are people out there who do so this is just a headsup for them
Perhaps he was referring to the Neo-Nazis. They still have a soft spot for young Antony.
Sheikh eats dodgy meat. Rushed to hospital.
Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2006 10 29 at 11:23 PM • permalinkIt appears to me that Muslims like Shiekh Al-Hillbilly and the Hizbizzies are doing a bang-up job of demonizing Islam themselves, with no help from we devious Neocons.
#10 Quentin
In the first place you must understand that a lot of the people cheering for the defeat of the US and its allies in Iraq, and the destruction of the nascent Iraqi democracy, are people who think the wrong side lost the Cold War. Noam Chomsky, for example, has been cheering for the defeat of the USA since he decided the Commies should win the Vietnam War, apparently so there could be more entertaining mass murders in the world, since that was the predictable result of his desire. Another example is that old Commie terrorist Carlos the Jackal, who converted to Islam in prison some years ago (long before 9/11) on the grounds that radical Islam was the only force capable of defeating America in the world now.There are many people out there, in the USA and its fellow western countries, who think the USA is the fount and origin of evil in the world. Considering the mass murders, famines, continental wide impoverishment, and genocides our enemies have got up to, and the way these oh-so-morally-righteous lefties cheer on the murderers, such a view is ludicrous, but there are some people who will believe things because they are stupid things.
There is also the rising popularity, especially on the left, of antisemitism, metastatizing once agian like a loathsome cancer in the body politic. Anti-Americanism has become the other side of the coin to this ancient hatred, and not just, or even primarily because of the US role as the foremost supporter of Israel. It antedates the US taking Israel’s part in the dispute with the Arabs (in the 50s the Eisenhower Administration was very cool towards Israel, and had an arms embargo on her; the Arabs mostly became enemies of the US anyway during that time).
Ant should reflect on that old saying: Be careful what you wish for, you might get it. Neither China nor a new Caliphate will be anywhere near as benign hegemons as the non-Imperialist USA. Ask the Tibetans and the Maronites how they have fared under such rule.
Posted by Michael Lonie on 2006 10 29 at 11:25 PM • permalink#26 Bonmot,
“I am not a warrior, but who is?” van den Boogaard asked. When I read that I thought “The Americans.” That’s in a European context of course, if he lived in Papua New Guinea I’d have thought of the Ozzies too. Of course Myheer Bugger has probably spent his entire adult lifetime sneering at and denouncing Americans. You can tell that by his advice to Dutch to go to Oz and Enzed, not America. Suddenly he needs soldiers, and can’t find them. America protected Europe from both its outside enemies and its own inner demons for 45 years and the Euros discarded the ability to defend themselves. Now they will pay for the long vacation from responsibility.Posted by Michael Lonie on 2006 10 29 at 11:39 PM • permalink#30.Infidel Tiger.The report to which you kindly link reveals that the Riot Squad was at the Mosque in case of trouble.The mind boggles! I wonder what trouble our highly politicised and thoroughly incompetent Police Bosses were anticipating.Did they perhaps expect 40 car loads of Glock-carrying Anglo surfers from the Shire to rampage through the peaceful streets of leafy Lakemba or were they just trying to appear to be doing something and as usual looking stupid.
Don’t forget Ikea’s patented design, and lots more at the Amazon.com of meat covers.
Posted by arrowhead ripper on 2006 10 29 at 11:52 PM • permalinkLew - Riot squads at mosques makes a lot of sense actually. Response times are second to none!
The Caliphate crowd and the Church fete crowd do have some minor differences - “SAS deployed to Sunday School picnic. Red cordial blamed”
Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2006 10 29 at 11:53 PM • permalinkThe Sheik must be feeling hard-done-by.
He’s been spouting the same sort of stuff for 20 years now, about Jews and Christians being subhuman filth, women being the agents of satan, and no-one’s called him on it before. Why now?
He can’t understand that Patience is a finite commodity, and we’ve run out.
Oh dear. I hope His Muftiness is fit and well after his fainting spell.
*runs off, zig zagging, dodging lighning bolts*
Posted by Pedro the Ignorant on 2006 10 30 at 12:27 AM • permalink#s30 & 34. This will be the sheik’s patented get out of jail free plan.
He will suddenly be overcome by stress and depression and be unable to preach.
That way, the MLA get to save face by not kicking him out to placate the hordes of pissed off kaffirs (blokes and sheilas), and he can do a Keysar and live happily ever after on the disability pension with all the concessions that implies.
He’s laughing all the way to the bank and in our faces.
Fark him. Deport him now.
Posted by Nilknarf Arbed on 2006 10 30 at 12:35 AM • permalinkThe reports from the Australian Newspaper make horrifying reading..
Sheik Hilaly was a member of the Muslim Brotherhood which inspired Bin Laden and Al Q’aida and another group Soldiers of God who were suspected of assassinating Egyptian President Anwar Sadat (promoter of harmony between Arab countries and the state of Israel)-in 1981.
The Sheik arrived in Australia in 1982 on a temporary visa.An agent at the Australian Embassy in Cairo reported to ASIO that the Egyptians were concerned he had trained in Lybia and about his influence on expat Egyptians in Australia.They believed he may have come to Australia to train extremists.
The reports came to ASIO in 1984 and were PASSED ON TO THE FED LABOR GOV IN CANBERRA..but were"STALLED BECAUSE OF THE IMPORTANCE OF THE ETHNIC VOTE TO THE LABOR PARTY..”Controversy, Collapse, O2 - FMD Shiek ‘yerbouti’ Al Hilaly has become Chris Skase!
Posted by Harry Buttle on 2006 10 30 at 12:49 AM • permalinkThis guy reminds me of the mother out of everybody loves raymond
Posted by Mr Trouble on 2006 10 30 at 01:01 AM • permalinkLooks like cat-meat Hilali’s a bit more of a pussy than his tough talking would have us believe.
Posted by Texas Ranger on 2006 10 30 at 01:37 AM • permalinknilknarf joins the 1000 posters club!
Onya nilk.
Posted by Margos Maid on 2006 10 30 at 01:46 AM • permalinkThanks Geoff, but it is unlikely this event will go unnoticed since I will certainly congratulate myself heartily.
The cunning plan is to note every milestone until I get there. All the while the pink lint beanbag nears fullness. Does life get any better than this? Yeerhaww!
Posted by Margos Maid on 2006 10 30 at 01:59 AM • permalinknilknarf joins the 1000 posters club!
There’s a club? Where’s my invitation? [glares]
NSW police said they were there as a precaution.
Evidently one of the post-cronulla recommendations was: “In future cases involving Lebanese-Muslims, do not fuck around”.
Personally, I’d like to have seen the Mosque searched top to bottom while they were there.
They should also look for any hidden rooms.
This lying and disgusting little man was putting forward a five year anti terrorist plan this time last year. http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2005/10/19/1129401317131.html?from=rss
WOW! Thanks, MM! I didn’t even realise that I was close to 1000.
I think that calls for a celebratory drink.
What about a hogshead of alcadel infihol?
Djrinnks all round!
Posted by Nilknarf Arbed on 2006 10 30 at 02:15 AM • permalinkFalling ill and collapsing? Wasn’t he saying the other day that only Allah can sack him?
Posted by flying pigs over mecca on 2006 10 30 at 02:20 AM • permalinkDan #55 “They should also look for any hidden rooms.” Perhaps someone could tell us precisely what sort of evidence would be required for a search to be authorised.
One of the commenters on an earlier thread
comment seemed to think there might be legitimate questions to raise.One thing seems to have been forgotten in all of this.
The Sheik said at the beginning of his latest folish sermon that Christians and Jews are the worst of God’s creations.Some years ago, two pastors in Victoria were prosecuted when they bagged out Islam…...
Secondly, why am I thinking of Christopher Skase when I’m reading about the Sheik-down?He went to Iraq, and claimed he was under threat for his own life when he went to “rescue” Woods. Yet he was able to function under those threats, and this “Storm in a cup” as he describes it, knocks him down????
Hilaly in hospital . . . . all I can say is “die c*nt, die”.
Posted by Oafish and Infantile on 2006 10 30 at 04:56 AM • permalink68. Its a lot more common than you might think. Im in the mining game at the moment and we recieve regular bullitens about explosive thefts.
Seem to be a large one every other month or so. 99.9% would be a small operator, farmer, or prospector getting a couple of years worth for themselves.
That remaining .01%
???
Guidelines for magazines were upgraded recently to include a much more ‘bunker” like structure of reinforced concrete.Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2006 10 30 at 05:59 AM • permalinkAnd the Sheik deserves not a Walkely, but a Dively Award for his superbly timed and dramatic fall!
Onlookers report that the sirens on the ambulance carrying him away from his date with destiny seemed to be wailing the operatic tune vissi d’arte, from Puccini’s famous opera Tosser, wherein the heroine flings herself to her death from the battlements to avoid earthly retribution.
It may be said of him one day:
He dived with a felafel in his hand.How good am I?
The sheik had asked for “indefinite leave” from preaching at Lakemba Mosque and would decide shortly what steps to take, Mr Zreika said.
Sheik Alhilali’s statement said: “In due course I will take the necessary decision that shall lift the pressures that have been placed on our Australian Muslims and that which will benefit all Australians.”
In his letter he again apologised for offence taken by his comments and described women as “the cherished pearls, the dearest thing in the world”.
He confessed his analogy comparing immodestly dressed women to uncovered meat was “inappropriate and unacceptable for the Australian society and the western society in general”.
The sheik was to have released a statement tonight as to whether or not he would heed calls to step down or hold onto his position as Australia’s leading Muslim cleric.
He is under intense pressure to quit following comments made in the sermon delivered last month.
Just heard on the news headlines (can’t find a link yet), the catmeety sheek is going to stop preaching. He is going to take extended leave, and not come back.
Good to see that some things never change - save face at all costs.
Of course, what he doesn’t realise is that we see, we hear, we remember, and we despise the weakness and cowardice inherent in his position.
He can’t come out and say, “I was wrong, I will step aside like a man.”
He slinks off to the background using the transparent ploy of ill health.
Well, Hilali, you could fly into danger to pretend to rescue Douglas Wood, but you couldn’t deal with the cold hard light of a kaffir nation’s disgust.
Allah’s chosen?
Chosen what?
Posted by Nilknarf Arbed on 2006 10 30 at 07:59 AM • permalinkOf course, I could be totally wrong and full of myself in error.
Posted by Nilknarf Arbed on 2006 10 30 at 08:05 AM • permalinkIt’s been reported that Hilali might have suffered a heart attack. Unfortunately, according to a poster at Muslim Village, this has not yet been confirmed.
Posted by flying pigs over mecca on 2006 10 30 at 08:35 AM • permalinkMuch as I loathe his opinions, it does seem he takes his pastoral duties seriously.
Posted by flying pigs over mecca on 2006 10 30 at 10:04 AM • permalinkIn his letter he [Hilali] again apologised for offence taken by his comments and described women as “the cherished pearls, the dearest thing in the world”.
What a misandrist! ;)
Posted by flying pigs over mecca on 2006 10 30 at 12:57 PM • permalink“Regardless, Hilaly is not the sole problem, and sacking or deporting him will not solve the problem…”
He’s cheering for the enemy, for the guys who are shooting at Australian troops.
He’s an out and out traitor, and ought to be dealt with accordingly…and we all know how traitors are dealt with.
Ask Lord Haw Haw what happens to guys who betray by doing propaganda for the enemy.
Posted by Dave Surls on 2006 10 30 at 02:00 PM • permalink#2 Dan, Interesting Islamic site.
Contains a fetching-looking, heavily made-up girl with an apologetic scarf failing to cover her hair… Sic her, Hilai!And he’s their ideological colour - Red and Victim:
those who are poor and powerless to break out of their poverty
are also those who by and large are non-white, non-western, third world
poverty and powerlessness are interwined in colour, in race discrimination and exploitation feed into each other today
under global capitalismOR under any number of Islamic Regimes??
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