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ONE GRAND ON THE LINE
Reader Andrew Richards is in a dilly of a pickle:
Do I pay up or not?
I challenged Labor: “I will give $1000 to charity if the ALP nominates as the candidate to replace Latham someone who is not a union official and/or a teacher and/or a political functionary and/or a lawyer.�
And now (perhaps hoping to avoid the headline “ALP deprives Salvation Army of $1000�) they have nominated Mr. Hayes, who is a former assistant national secretary of the Australian Workers Union.
I suppose I could get all legal about it and ask if he is still a paid-up member of the AWU. Would that would settle matters? What do your in-house ethicists think?
Over to you, ethicists!
Show them you’re the more ethical man, Andrew. Write the check despite the fact he’s a union guy.
Posted by Tex Lovera on 2005 02 04 at 10:17 AM • permalinkSend the check to me, Andrew. I’m not a charity, so that’ll leave you in the clear.
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2005 02 04 at 10:41 AM • permalinkOnce a union member always a union member. There is not cure or treatment, so send a check to bona fide charity if you can fine one.
When things like this come up, I always give to the local humane society (animal shelter) which is run largely by local residents, so I know whatever they get, goes to taking care of stray animals and not to administrative costs.
Has the swine ever held any other job or position? If not, I’d say you’re in the clear.
If your concience bothers you, make a $500 donation to reflect his “former” status.
Posted by richard mcenroe on 2005 02 04 at 11:21 AM • permalinkWell, according to the Herald Sun:
After finishing school, he worked at the Sydney Water Board before entering union work in 1978, firstly for the Public Service Professional Officers Association of NSW and later for the AWU.
He worked as a senior adviser for the Police Federation of Australia and New Zealand before starting his own business in mediation.
and his official ALP bio page shows
Diploma in Labour Relations and Law (Sydney University)
IMO, your $1000 is safe.
Posted by Old Grouch on 2005 02 04 at 12:27 PM • permalinkA unionista AND a lawyer? Oy vey - he wasn’t just drinking the Kool-Aid, he was brewing it for distribution. IMO, the ALP owes YOU a grand.
Posted by Distrudeaupia on 2005 02 04 at 12:32 PM • permalinkYour challenge did not include “former” union officials. If he was not a union official at the time of his nomination, you are stuck. Even if he is a paying member of the union at present, that would not make him an officer.
You are correct much of the time, but you are not infallible. Pick a good charity and pay up in good humor.
Posted by Mystery Meat on 2005 02 04 at 12:52 PM • permalinkUnless Mr. Hayes can produce evidence he successfully completed the 12-step program to cure him of his union addiction (the crack cocaine of government employees) keep your money.
But if my fellow ethicists convince you differently, might I suggest giving your money to PETA (People for the Ethical Treatment of Arty). I know those guys, they’re a fine outfit and I can almost guarantee your money won’t be diddled away on a pub-crawl, table dancing and cab fare.
Send $500 and tell whoever gets it the other $500 is the amount of tax they’d have to pay if the ALP takes control.
Posted by Gary from Jersey on 2005 02 04 at 02:23 PM • permalinkThe <a href=“http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,12149734-421,00.html”>Daily Telegraph quotes “unnamed sources” (possibly the Allawi shooting witness) to say that the Libs aren’t going to run in Werriwa.
Posted by Quentin George on 2005 02 04 at 05:55 PM • permalinkOK lets face it for 21 of the last 26 years he has been a union official; over the last 5 years he has been a “consultant’ or a ‘mediator’ ‘business advisor’ … so what does that mean?? It means he has been employed by businesses who don’t know what the f*ck to do about some union /personell problem they have so they employ a Mr FixIt with a union background to ring up a few mates and smooth things over , all for a fee of a few thou each time. Am I wrong?
In which case he is a unionist and the ALP’s Claytons Small Businessman (“The small businessman you have when you don’t have a small businessman� for those who have forgotten their cultural references)Posted by arnienelly on 2005 02 04 at 06:34 PM • permalinkNote from his web site
“Major Advisory/mediation roles:
Work has included private mediation in the areas of Sydney Airport, National Crime Authority, printing industry and health and aged care sector.
Was appointed mediator of disputes at Sydney Airport for the six month period preceding and including the Olympic Games. This period successfully passed without major industrial dramas.
Retained as an advisor to the Police Federation of Australia�Game set and match to the “he-is-still-a-unionist� school of thought
Also I wonder about his role in the Sydney Games
“This period successfully passed without major industrial dramas.� Well he would say that wouldn’t he?
I wonder if any “that-bastard-is-no-small-businessman-He-made-me-pay-four-times-the-award-rate-to-his-unionist-mates-to-get-the-job-finished-on-time� stories around
Posted by arnienelly on 2005 02 04 at 08:04 PM • permalinkSigh. I’m not fixing this shit anymore. You guys have got to learn.
Posted by Andrea Harris, Administrator on 2005 02 05 at 02:40 AM • permalinkHe is a parasitic union hack like most of the ALP but he is former official so pay $500.
Posted by Astonished on 2005 02 05 at 04:05 AM • permalink
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It’s simple. Would you, if you had cynically predicted : one thing we know is that the nominee will be a union official, a teacher or a political functionary - would you have claimed to have been right?
If so, you don’t pay up. If not, you do. My own inclination is that it’s a successful prediction; that is, it makes its point and scores.