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Some background, from Daniel Pipes, on London’s home-based Islamist menace:
An Islamist British group called Al-Muhajiroun - “the immigrants” in Arabic - for some time publicly stated that Britain was immune from Islamist violence because of its acceptable behavior toward Muslims within the country’s borders. In an April 2004 conversation, the 24-year-old Sayful Islam, who heads Al-Muhajiroun’s Luton branch, announced that he supported Osama Bin Laden “100%” in the quest to achieve “the worldwide domination of Islam,” but went on to voice an aversion to himself performing terrorist acts in Britain.
Yet, Mr. Islam endorsed terrorism in Britain in a broader sense. “When a bomb attack happens here, I won’t be against it, even if it kills my own children. … But it is against Islam for me to engage personally in acts of terrorism in the UK because I live here. According to Islam, I have a covenant of security with the UK, as long as they allow us Muslims to live here in peace.” He further explained. “If we want to engage in terrorism, we would have to leave the country. It is against Islam to do otherwise.”
Which may explain why British cops are looking for this guy:
Media reports said police had requested European counterparts seek out information on radical Moroccan cleric Mohammed al-Garbuzi, who lived in Britain for 16 years before vanishing from his north London home last year.
(Via Dr T. Matthew Ciolek)
Dr. Radu, you are one of the West’s most respected experts on terrorism. Let’s suppose Prime Minister Blair calls you tonight and asks: “Dr. Radu, I need your advice. What do I do to protect my homeland better and what do I do to fight terrorism more effectively overall, at home and abroad?” What do you tell him?
Radu: a) Stop being politically correct and define the enemy clearly - it is Islamism. If established Muslim groups persist in opposing common sense measures to counter terrorism, make it clear that that amounts to indirect support for it, never mind the declared intentions.
b) Completely reform the asylum and immigration policies;
c) Either legalize indefinite internment for non-citizen radicals, or extradite them. If that requires changes in the EU human rights legislation or UK rejection of it, so be it.
d) Criminalize recruiting and indoctrination of radicals by UK residents.
E) Learn from the French - yes, from the French.
FP: What is it exactly that the French have done right?
Radu: They have learned from the wave of Islamic terror in France in the mid-1990s. For instance, imams coming to France now must speak French; the process of training them in France has began; imams preaching anti-Semitism or the murder of “infidels” are often expelled….expeditiously; at government instigation, a French Council of the Muslim Religion (Conseil français du culte musulman - CFCM) has been established, institutionalizing the dialogue with the authorities; mosques, whether legal or illegal, are under permanent surveillance; suspected terrorists are detained for longer periods, and the simple intention to join or have association with terrorists is a crime.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=18697
Red nosed Irish Australian catholic priest Flynn defends accused suspected war criminal in Australia.He is 82 and “a very good catholic who never would have committed such crimes”.Anti semitism from elderly catholics is not so unusual.The jewish teenager who was tortured and murdered in the 1940s deserves a hearing too.
It’s a crazy world when the French are doing something right.
Posted by Aging Gamer on 2005 07 09 at 08:51 AM • permalink‘even if it kills my own children’
would that it kill your parents, your grandparents and the whole line back to pond scum, bacteria or wherever it is you came from
take your long beards and your dull, stupid eyes, take your wooden attitudes, take your idiot theories and your victim mentalities and bury them somewhere
somewhere far away
and take your fucking bombs
oh, i forgot to mention, take your women
of course you would take your women - except your women, dark eyes flashing, may not like to be taken back to their dark past - and your fat, stolid, bearded stupidity masquerading as mastery
maybe they would prefer the lightness and joy of freedom, the pleasure of liberation, the release from your evil grip
and so it comes around
you threaten your own children with death
the seed of your own loins
in australia, where people can be free,
someone described you as sub-human filththey were right
you are sub-human filth and deserve to be crushed beneath the shoe of any free person walking down the street
But it is against Islam for me to engage personally in acts of terrorism in the UK because I live here.
So Gitmo is safe?
Posted by richard mcenroe on 2005 07 09 at 10:45 AM • permalinkApparently another guy of interest is Mustafa Nasar, who was the alleged mastermind behind the Madrid bombings and has gone on uncaptured. He also lived in London in the late 90s. Seems London is an extremists safe haven in the West. More here
Posted by Nik Cubrilovic on 2005 07 10 at 12:09 AM • permalink
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But it is against Islam for me to engage personally in acts of terrorism in the UK because I live here.
Apart from that it’s ok.