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A reminder that the whole Jews-are-the-new-Nazis thing isn’t a completely new phenomenon:
[A protester] returned with, god help me, a placard featuring the Star of David with a Swastika in the middle. What little Jewish blood I have in me was extremely pissed off by this little display. Yes, the occupation is brutal, yes Israel has done some very nasty things to the Palestinians - but interconnecting Nazism with the most sacred of Jewish symbols is quite simply not on.
That post (by an appalled lefty) recalls events in 2003. The far left has since graduated to such slogans as Nazi Kikes Out of Lebanon.
yes Israel has done some very nasty things to the Palestinians
What, like, fighting back?
Posted by Jim Geones on 2006 08 22 at 03:54 AM • permalinkI’ve decided that this is a tactic of theirs based on psychological projection. By claiming their opposition is doing what they are doing, despite the reality or facts, they are able to prevent valid debate. You end up going round and round with counter-claims.
And of course, say it enough times, loudly enough, and there are people who will believe it’s true.
I agree that it is pernicious in the extreme to juxtapose the swastika and the star of David, but I would just like to point out that the latter is not a “most sacred of Jewish symbols.” In fact, it is not a religious symbol at all, and it is an utter mystery how this design ever became emblematic of Judaism or the Jewish people (google away!). A religious Jew would not be the slightest bit offended (in a religious sense) if a star of David would be “desecrated,” burnt, discarded, or even touched by an ungloved Gitmo guard.
Grybstein
I just watched a Ch 9 doco on the recon (Tiger) platoon of 5RAR, and part of the file fottage of protests after their return in ‘67 had a loon waving a sign featuring a skeleton waving an Israeli flag in one claw, a US one in the other with the epithet “Jews American Murderers”.
Now either they had their file footage fucked up and it was from the 6 Day War, Yom Kippur or similar, or these bottom burps were harbouring these deranged views nearly 40 years before the current conflict- I don’t recall the IDF playing a major role in Indochina, or there being any great geopolitical benefit to Israel in combatting commies in SE Asia, but I’m probably missing the big picture- all those Jewish owned banks, brothels and heroin labs in Saigon and Vung Tau, not to mention the valuable matzoh ball harvest from the Mekong Delta- and matzohs being on the endangered species list as well.
Tut tut.
The “Jews = Nazis” slur has been around virtually since 1945. Certainly, some people argued that the Nuremburg trials was the Jews’ revenge against the Nazis and made the Jews as bad as them. Modern “Jews=Nazis” propaganda, however, has its roots in the Soviet Union (surprised anyone?). A good summary is in the following article. It is long, but well worth the read.
Robert Wistrich -The Old New Anti-Semitism
Posted by lewisinnyc on 2006 08 22 at 10:26 AM • permalink#4 spyder
I’ve decided that this is a tactic of theirs based on psychological projection. By claiming their opposition is doing what they are doing, despite the reality or facts, they are able to prevent valid debate. You end up going round and round with counter-claims.
Too much credit is given. Most of them are simply intellectually inbred. They believe what they say, have no concept that what they say can be wrong and are as confused by the non-disfuctional as we are of them.
And of course, say it enough times, loudly enough, and there are people who will believe it’s true.
Yep, that’s how propaganda works.
#7 Habib:
Now either they had their file footage fucked up and it was from the 6 Day War, Yom Kippur or similar, or these bottom burps were harbouring these deranged views nearly 40 years before the current conflict-
Actually, anti-Americanism predates the foundation of the USA as a nation. The “scientific truth” of the day was that since the new world was so humid and different, that nothing but mutants and perverted evil could ever come from there.
Anti-Americanism and anti-Semitism have shared the same rhetoric, same imagry, same accusations from day one. Neither antiism is distinguishable from the other except when explicitly naming the target.SBS’s Nick Lazaredes on Dateline just did a hopelessly biased, propagandistic piece on the Hezbollah ‘pieces’ and areas of Beirut.
It was ‘point at the damage and click’ stuff with no attempt at any analysis.
He even found an American prof ‘of international law’ who explained that he was only interested in the ‘American bombs’ not any used against Israel. A real specialist in bias!
Nobody was even asked if Iranian rockets were stored in these suburbs illegally, the Israeli claim.
Lazaredes managed to find only one point of view in the whole country, a commentary on him rather than the Lebanese.
Ironically, the next piece emphasised the keen debate and political flak in Israel excessively, but didn’t provide even a hint of the war damage done to them. Is that already a myth?
Lazardes even offered the view ‘many say that Hezbollah started the war by attacking’ -not even able to state the bleeding obvious as fact.
Appallingly lazy and intellectually-insulting SBS journalism once again, even after this has been widely exposed as done by other MSM in this war.
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Whenever the media covers incidents like this, they always point out that local Jews are offended and outraged at the equation of Zionism with Naziism. Funny, I would have thought that’s the sort of thing that pretty much any decent-hearted person would be offended by, whether Jewish or not.
I always get this weird sort of sneering “Well, naturally the Jews took exception—typical of them” tone from such stories. Hell with that… you don’t have to be a member of the Chosen Tribe to be outraged at this sort of symbology.
I daresay it’s a little more of a universal sentiment than, say, being shocked and appalled by a few Danish cartoons of guys in turbans.