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Leftist Melody Kemp mourns the lack of romantic admiration for the likes of Jew-hating breast-requester David Hicks:
My family were Spanish socialists. I should not brag about that, as they lost. But in those days, going overseas or to another country, to fight for an ideal, was to be a partisan and to be admired, romanticized, courted by artists, and writers. Now it’s orange jumpsuits and terrorist charges.
US, British, and Australian troops, among others, have lately gone overseas to fight for an ideal; Melody is quite right that they aren’t admired by artists and writers. Hicks, however, receives more than his share of artistic admiration. Reader SezaGeoff emailed last night:
I have just returned from the Roger Waters concert in Melbourne. Not a bad do, but I had to laugh during a track from Animals when they had a large pink pig flying around the Rod Laver arena.
On one side of the pig was the slogan “Bring David Hicks home”. The delicious irony of painting our favourite radical Muslim’s name on such an unclean animal and promoting it at a musical event when his preferred Taliban friends outlawed music meant that I was not offended - just bemused. It also had “impeach George Bush” painted on its bum.
Roger also seemed to not understand the difference between the Berlin Wall (erected to keep people in with murderers) and the Israeli Wall (erected to keep murderers away) in film clips accompanying pieces from The Wall.
I think support from the crowd of ageing hippies and old rockers was about 30-40%, but nowhere near overwhelming.
“My family were Spanish socialists. I should not brag about that”
True.
“On the rare occasions when I am in Australia I read the job ads, and simply cannot understand what the person actually is required to do?”
Work.
Posted by Dave Surls on 2007 02 02 at 01:55 PM • permalinkI have a soft spot for Spanish Socialists. They were about opposing tyranny.
What do they have to do with David Hicks?
(Jorg, exactly how they deserve blame for being on the receiving end of Nazi bombs escapes me as well. And they were betrayed and destroyed by the Soviets even more so than by the fascists.)
Posted by tim maguire on 2007 02 02 at 02:27 PM • permalinkBut in those days, going overseas or to another country, to fight for an ideal, was to be a partisan and to be admired, romanticized, courted by artists, and writers.
That’s the problem with the left. Everything is supposed to be romantic and, gosh darn it, fun. Instead, you go to all these protests that are supposed to be romantic and fun, and you find yourself surrounded by wheezing old geezers waving home-made misspelled signs, it’s embarrassing, man, and there are all these scary dark-skinned dudes wrapped up to the eyeballs in table clothes, and all these even scarier butch-looking screechy women. Where the hell is all the fun?
But in those days, going overseas or to another country, to fight for an ideal, was to be a partisan and to be admired, romanticized, courted by artists, and writers. Now it’s orange jumpsuits and terrorist charges.
Lord Haw Haw was “partisan” as well, in “those days” the rope was the consequence of treason.
Spanish Socialists and their mercenary International Marxists had about as much ‘fun’ as Hicks has had in Gitmo for years - except that they died much quicker.
Both fought against western religion and culture and for a far worse form of fascist intolerance than Franco ever produced.What’s Romantic Melody complaining about then?
#3 Tim, your ‘soft spot’ just shows how successful leftist propagandists have been over the Spanish Civil War.
Didn’t Spain and Portugal stay neutral in WWII and offer an escape route for anti-Nazis for years?
All their ‘brave socialists’ achieved was to give Hitler’s killing machine a trial run -on Spaniards.Maybe if Melody thought of Hicks as having gone off and joined the Afghan equivalent of the Condor Legion she might understand why he is in Gitmo. I’d guess, however, that she doesn’t know what the Condor Legion was.
Posted by Michael Lonie on 2007 02 02 at 07:45 PM • permalinkno wait… that should have been spanish socialites, flitting from one heavenly guerilla party to another, sipping the nectar of the flowers of war, slipping in & out of the passionate embraces of those byronic partisans…
that the fuckhead chooses to live in laos says it all - a wholly owned subsidiary of the vietnamese revolution, nominally run by the lao people’s revolutionary party
Robert Fisk spurred me on
What is about Lefty chicks and their need to share the sordid details of their sexlives with us??
Posted by AlburyShifton on 2007 02 02 at 08:50 PM • permalinkRight, so if get this right, the charges, as delineated by the Grand Wizard of the Blogsheep are: (1) anti-semitism and (2) overt prefence for big tits. So, what was the statutory sentence for such crimes at Geelong Grammar?
Posted by Miranda Divide on 2007 02 02 at 08:55 PM • permalinkOh, and Hicksie, there was that little matter of being captured on the battlefield fighting alongside the armies of our country’s enemy. It’s just not cricket.
Posted by AlburyShifton on 2007 02 02 at 08:59 PM • permalinkas delineated by the Grand Wizard of the Blogsheep
Nice logic, Fuckhead!
Posted by AlburyShifton on 2007 02 02 at 09:01 PM • permalinkMiranda Divide
Was Dawood captured in uniform?=No
Was Dawood carrying the ID of his “army?”=No
Was Dawood on his way to surrender to a competent military authority?=No
Was Dawood in India scoping out soft tagets like embassies for LET?+reportedly yes.These all remove him from the status of a recognised combatant as per the Geneva conventions.
Pretty simple really.Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2007 02 02 at 09:32 PM • permalinkSo what are the charges, dirt mouth?
Go and Die! </Marieke Hardy>
Posted by AlburyShifton on 2007 02 02 at 09:47 PM • permalinkI would point out to Miranda Divide, that at the time WW2 broke out, there was no legal grounds for the War Crimes which were laster brought out. Then, as now, the laws needed to catch up with what they were dealing with.
Or would Miranda argue that because there were no laws covering it at the time, that Goering, Eichmann, etc should not have faced trial?
Dear Miranda
Since we are supposed to be on the topic of socialists and the Spanish Civil War, perhaps you might like to enlighten us as to how many prisoners the socialsts took, and how many survived encarceration?
A statistic on the side might include how many people the socialists just shot out of hand as soon as they got them because they were enemies of the revolution.
If anyone knows, can they enlighten me as to whether the two sides fighting the Civil War were signatories to the Geneva Convention, or whether they had any agreement between them on how to handle prisoners etc etc?
Posted by mr creosote on 2007 02 02 at 10:20 PM • permalink#24 i guess you got up a bit late today & missed the top headline story in pravda. too many sherbets with traaaaceeee perhaps?
Colonel Moe Davis, chief prosecutor for the US Office of Military Commissions told theage.com.au his team had submitted charges of attempted murder and material support for terrorism against Hicks under the Military Commissions Act of 2006.
The draft charges must now be considered by the military commission’s Convening Authority, who will determine whether there is enough evidence to support formal charges against Hicks.
If so, he will be committed to stand trial on the formal charges. Both charges - attempted murder and material support for terrorism - carry a maximum penalty of life imprisonment.
#24 Miranda
So what are the charges, dirt mouth?
Well here they are, and it looks like these may be just for starters:
Two charges have been laid including providing material support for terrorism and attempted murder in violation of the law of war.
Chief prosecutor in the Guantanamo war crimes trials, air force Colonel Morris Davis said, “We’re going to start with three (a Canadian, a Yeminin and Hicks) and add on from there,”
Any more questions?
Strange that we didn’t hear about anyone protesting about those other nationals.
The Melbourne Herald Sun (not exactly The Age) reported that it was a Flying Elephant, not a pig:
As for the giant pink elephant that floated across the crowd with the message “Bring David Hicks Home”, it is not for this reviewer to comment.
Did that paper get it wrong?
Right, so if get this right, the charges, as delineated by the Grand Wizard of the Blogsheep are….overt prefence for big tits.
What’s wrong with admiring large breasts? On human females, anyway.
Which, God be praised, excludes Miranda Divide, no matter how you cut it.
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2007 02 03 at 02:25 AM • permalink#36 - Dan,
It was definitely a pig - unless it was one of those very short trunked mini elephants beloved by some Israelis for certain feasts.
The cover of Pink Floyd’s Animals album shows the pig flying between the chimneys of Battersea Power Station - and that was the tracks they were playing at the time.“Leftist Melody Kemp mourns the lack of romantic admiration for the likes of Jew-hating breast-requester David Hicks:”
That’s because she’s a typical America-hating leftist twat.
She’s for ANYONE, no matter how horrible they are, who is against America, as her asinine writings amply demonstrate.
Posted by Dave Surls on 2007 02 03 at 04:31 AM • permalinkTime for the art of discrimination to reassert itself.
Posted by carpefraise on 2007 02 03 at 04:35 AM • permalinkA little traitor like Hicks bearly merits a moment’s attention. That he is getting more than a moment’s attention from doting appeasers, addle-brained peaceniks, pathological anti-americans, faux-subversive lefties and activist journos is more concerning. Idiots like Hicks pop up occasionally but it’s the size of the Caravan of the Deluded - many of them claiming some education - that baffles me.
How is it that those who are so concerned about civil liberties and their supposed erosion can be so blind to a group whose first ambition is to destroy those liberties forever? And what of the liberties of millions round the world who live under real oppression and injustice? We are told with Pontius Pilate-like sanctimony that that is ‘their culture’. Better to cry crocodile tears over the contemptible Hicks and bugger those we condemn to live in ‘identity ghettoes’.
#41 - Not to mention the shit between her ears.
Posted by SwinishCapitalist on 2007 02 03 at 07:29 AM • permalink#42
That he is getting more than a moment’s attention from doting appeasers, addle-brained peaceniks, pathological anti-americans, faux-subversive lefties and activist journos is more concerning. Idiots like Hicks pop up occasionally but it’s the size of the Caravan of the Deluded - many of them claiming some education - that baffles me.
The good thing about this is they have been drawn out into the open, and we know who they are. And when this is an issue long gone off the political radar, we will remember them for their treachery and their willingness to sell us out to those who would harm us and ours. And we have VERY long memories…
Posted by AlburyShifton on 2007 02 03 at 07:41 AM • permalink
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I wonder if any of those ‘Spanish socialists’ or their supporters ever expressed any remorse or regret for being a testing ground for both the Nazi govt in Germany and the Soviet style govts in Eastern Europe from 1945-1990 or so? Undoubtedly not. They’re too self-satisified at believing the right things to worry about doing the right thing. Looks like it’s genetic in this case.