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Nigel Lawson on red greens:
Those who wish to order us how to run our lives, faced with the uncomfortable evidence that economic prosperity is more likely to be achieved by less government intervention rather than more, naturally welcome the emergence of a new licence to intrude, to interfere, to tax and to regulate: all in the great cause of saving the planet from the alleged horrors of global warming ...
People still feel the need for the comfort and higher values that religion can provide; and it is the quasi-religion of green alarmism, of which the global warming issue is the most striking example, which has filled the vacuum, with reasoned questioning of its mantras regarded as little short of sacrilege.
naturally welcome the emergence of a new licence to intrude, to interfere, to tax,,,,
These are the folks that scream the loudest at any perceived intrusion. These are the same people who are supporting two of the biggest taxers in American history…Hillary and Obama.
Posted by Deborah Leigh on 2008 04 06 at 11:37 AM • permalinkIf it weren’t global warming, it would be some other hobgoblin the statists would be trying to foist on us, as an excuse to exercise control over the body politic. Here, in pictures, is the typical leftist’s m.o. (Via Maggie’s Farm).
Here’s a thought experiment: imagine that the best perceived way to reduce glowball warmening would be to cut welfare, privatize government owned entities, and spend more on defense. If this were the case, does anyone think carping about climate change would dominate the lefty agenda?
It’s the ordering people about part that they like.
Posted by Ernst Blofeld on 2008 04 06 at 03:00 PM • permalinkHedging his bets?
It makes sense, too, to invest in research in the hoped-for technology of generating electricity using commercial carbon capture (so that carbon dioxide emissions might be “captured” before they can escape into the atmosphere) and also, as the U.S. is already doing, in the technology of geoengineering to cool the planet artificially.
I still call bullshit on “capturing carbon”.
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I still call bullshit on “capturing carbon”.
I totally agree in all ways. It’s crazy, would be extremely costly, fraught with huge technical difficulties with a certain end result of achieving nothing.
Perhaps I should qualify my comment: before this is all settled as a futile and costly exercise, expect to see and hear from the rent seekers who put out their hands for government money as they try to turn the charade into a business making venture.
Lawson: We appear to have entered a new age of unreason, which threatens to be as economically harmful as it is profoundly disquieting. It is from this, above all, that we really do need to save the planet.
Quite so - but actually Lawson is rather measured in his response to this nonsense, which perhaps is an indication of his political negotiating skills not to offend opponents.
However, I rather like this other approach from David Archibald: Air execs gasp on call for more CO2
The more carbon dioxide we can put into the atmosphere, the better off the planet will be for humans and all other living things. If David Archibald had thrown a thunderflash among delegates at the Greener Skies 2008 conference in Hong Kong it couldn’t have made a greater impact than the statement he used to start his presentation.
After a day of hearing from aviation industry leaders how the carbon footprints of the industry were boosting climate change and had to be curbed, the director of the Lavoisier Group was quickly into his stride.
“In a few short years we will have a reversal of the warming of the 20th century,” Archibald warned. “There will be significant cooling very soon. Our generation has known a warm, giving sun but the new generation will suffer a sun that is less giving and the earth will be less fruitful.
“Carbon dioxide is not even a little bit bad - it’s wholly beneficial.”
There would have been fewer jaws dropping if Archibald had stripped off his clothes and run naked from the room, but as his presentation continued, many no doubt wished he had disappeared.
“Plant growth responds to atmospheric carbon dioxide enrichment. In a world of higher atmospheric carbon dioxide, crops will use less water per unit of carbon dioxide uptake. Thus the productivity of semi-arid lands will increase the most,” he said.
But Archibald cautioned that he did not bring only good news and said the world should prepare for another Ice Age.
I like Archibald’s paper because at last someone is bringing together some key facts - the best evidence is that the earth’s climate, or more importantly the temperature that we experience around the globe, is governed by solar activity and sunspots in particular. Recent years have seen a decline in sunspot activity that has been accompanied by some of the coldest winters on record - for example in Europe, the USA and China, largely gone unreported in the MSM. And this is the part I like, (perhaps because I have been making these comments to friends) - increased levels of CO2 lead to enhanced plant growth.
So if anything, we should expect cooling to occur and the best way to offset that would be to add CO2 to the atmosphere to assist plant growth. I would add something else, that even in the absence of any cooling, additional CO2 will assist plant growth and make this planet more livable for everyone. And raised temperatures if they occur (doubtful in my opinion) would also be beneficial.
Archibald’s full paper can be found here. Download link. And I came across this information at John Ray’s Greenie Watch site which has lots of informative articles about Climate Change nonsense. They are worth reading. This paper is the third under 4th April.
It a huge push for that trough of corruption, the UN to finaly have a global “tax” of some sort.
Every carbon credit has to be verified by the UN, which will of course charge a small fee for this.
The UN is developing a carbon trading link, called the International Transaction Log (ITL), that will connect national registries and track the CER transactions.And what a suprise its based in Switzerland, which should ensure complete transparency in all the banking details??
Scam.Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2008 04 06 at 07:22 PM • permalink“People still feel the need for the comfort and higher values that religion can provide; and it is the quasi-religion of green alarmism,”
Wrong wrong wrong wrong!!! It is not a qausi- religion but THE Religious substitute, more fundamentalist than the worst of Islamism, Fascism, Communism, Paganism and any other ism you care to mention, to go on a “jihad” against civilization and progress as we know, uo to and including the very destruction of the human race itself for the sake of their Gaia godess, in the same way that the pagan Greeks used to cut off their own testicles as a token of their devotion in front of the idol of the godess Cybele.
I am very, very angry at them because they are terrorising our children in the same way we were terrorised by the threat of “nuclear” disaster. This is what leads to intellectual contradictions and dishonesty illustrated by their dogma that we have to leave the clean energy of nuclear power in the ground even though it is a practical, tested and available resources to meet the very problems of the pollution and global “warmening” brought about by CO2 emission.
Posted by LaVallette on 2008 04 06 at 07:27 PM • permalinkThe vacuum created when the Berlin Wall fell was filled by a lot of hot air.
#12 yes sunspots are a mystery we have yet to fully understand.Posted by stackja1945 on 2008 04 06 at 09:19 PM • permalinkThe ABC had an item on the news this morning where the Fred Hollows Foundation was warning of increased cataracts because of increased UV ray exposure from global warming.
Someone hasn’t shown them the global warming script. It’s increased CO2 concentrations that’s causing the warming not increased sun activity!!
When reasonably intellinent people are confused the advocates have a problem. Maybe it’s because people immediately think of warming as being caused by the sun. Silly people.
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Just waiting for the explanation that this is the appropriate use of the “God gene.”
I’m off to Mass. I’ll pray for their benighted souls.