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VICE PREVENTED
The Arab News reports:
The Makkah governorate, acting on a request from the Commission for the Promotion of Virtue and Prevention of Vice, has decided to prohibit the sale of pet cats and dogs. The commission made the request after it noticed many young Saudis going out in streets with their pet dogs in violation of the Kingdom’s culture and traditions.
Saudi authorities in Jeddah have begun enforcing the decision.
The commission complained of Saudi youth, apparently influenced by Western culture, bringing their pets into public places, allegedly causing distress especially to families with young children.
The dogs should be forced to wear some form of concealing garment. Barkas, perhaps.
This sounds nutty to us but it can be exlpained—sort of.
Under Arab cultural tradition dogs are considered unclean animals. Though I hadn’t heard this one before, I must suppose cats are also ‘unclean’ for some reason.
In any case, taking your pet outside and exposing your neighbors to an unclean animal is considered very rude behavior in these societies.
So you see, on this issue, the Saudis aren’t nuts, they’re just really eccentric.
I am being on my way to the weekly Beheading with my wives and 20 children when we be seeing dogs balls. It was so shocking for my family, I now forbid my wives from using lipstick they can lick each others lips. I be hoping that no pussies on the streets when we go to the stoning of the village rape victim.
If I lived in Saudi Arabia then I’d be scared of the Dogbollah, as well, not to mention the Catbollah. They could be packing any manner of fecal landmines that unsuspecting Wahhabi peaneniks might stick their delicate tootsies in.
Posted by Jack Lacton on 2006 08 25 at 04:36 AM • permalink#2 Zayphar -
Dogs are considered by some peoples to be unclean for the same reason as are pigs.
Both animals will readily eat human faeces, which apparently, to them at least, contain lots of undigested goodies
This tendency has been cited as reason for the ready domestication of these animals as they became “camp followers” of early human tribes.
Sorry.#7
You’re right. I’m surprised Western Civilisation hasn’t been wiped out already by those filthy four legged little bastards.
Next thing, they’ll be bombing schoolbuses, flying planes into buildings and beheading people.Posted by Rachel Corrie's Flatmate on 2006 08 25 at 05:38 AM • permalinkOn the upside, less dogs walking the streets = less potential rape victims.
Posted by Rachel Corrie's Flatmate on 2006 08 25 at 05:41 AM • permalinkJust dont ‘drive while female’ in Saudi I-Rape-Ya.
Posted by Islam/cancer-Chuck Norris/answer on 2006 08 25 at 05:47 AM • permalinkDayum!
links wont work -
google ‘saudi driving while woman’-
if you is interested.Posted by Islam/cancer-Chuck Norris/answer on 2006 08 25 at 05:54 AM • permalinkAll laughs aside, ask yourself how any culture can progress when it is a crime to do something that is “in violation of the Kingdom’s culture and traditions”.
They are bloody lucky they made it as far as the 7th century.
Posted by Harry Buttle on 2006 08 25 at 06:12 AM • permalinkI take it then that the Ziffel clan wouldn’t be welcome in the Kingdom of the Prophet.
I knew there was some really valid, rational reason to dislike these table linen haberdashed sand goblins, and any culture that hates hounds is truly barbrous.
Why don’t we have a bit of a cultural revision ourselves, not as far back as these sinister-mitt bum-wipers, but let’s say the mid 19th century, the height of colonial expansion. Roll into the Levant, send all the bedouins packing back into the desert where they could frolic with their choice of companion critters to their hearts content, while we pillage their oil and anything else worth swiping.
Man oh man, these people just suck the joy right out of life, don’t they. Isn’t it wonderful to have your likes and dislikes proscribed by a bunch of permanently pissed old men. Joy to the World. All your good times belong to them. None of this secular “pursuit of happiness” crapola for them, no siree. If it ain’t the wall o’ justice, it’s the sword o’ justice, or the stones o’ justice, or the clubs, or the whips, or the torture chambers, or the gang-rapists.
Islam means submission. It’s the dirty old men that everybody must submit to. Or else.
And please do not recite the culture crap to me as an excuse for these gangs of uptight thugs to go around arresting, beating, and otherwise making life miserable for everybody else. I put up with things that I don’t like on a daily basis, much of it extraordinarily offensive to my beliefs. Just like everybody else I know. If I can address offenses with my words, as opposed to resorting to force every time my panties wad up, then so can they.
The excuse of culture is an excuse for barbarity. I don’t give a damn what their culture is, no one has the right to force the mind of another individual, even those who would willingly submit. Man lives by the operation of his reason, which means that he must be free to think and to act on his thinking. This fact is the source of man’s right to his own life.
The man-made traditions of culture do not override nature’s laws. Do you think that it is just some coincidence that this is a culture of death? That they value honor-killings? That they provide a market for the obscene taped beheadings of the infidels? That they pass out candy to their children upon hearing of the deaths of the infidels? They reify death. They seek it. They teach their children that the only purpose in their miserable little lives is to die. No matter what excuses you wrap around that, the bottom line is death. Can you imagine what it must be like for the individual in this society who disagrees? Who thinks for himself? Or worse, herself? Or who just wants to take the dog for a walk?
Dogs. Cats. Kites. Music. Valentines. Sex. The old men will tell you how you’re supposed to feel about all things. And they mean it.
Under Arab cultural tradition dogs are considered unclean animals.
#2, I get it! It’s a typo. I think it should read:
“The Commission for the Promotion of Virtue and Prevention of Lice”
Posted by Art Vandelay on 2006 08 25 at 07:01 AM • permalinkThough I hadn’t heard this one before, I must suppose cats are also ‘unclean’ for some reason.
I was under the impression that old Mo was fond of cats.
Though, truth be told, knowing cats, it was probably more a matter of them tolerating
him, rather than the other way around.Edit: According to (don’t laugh) Wikipedia….
The cat is highly respected in Islam because of tales that the prophet Muhammad approved its domestication by one of his companions. This companion was nicknamed “Abu Hurairah” or “Father of the little cat”. In Islam, it is considered a commendable act to feed a cat milk. There are numerous stories about cats in Islam. One story tells of a cat that saved Muhammad from being bitten by a deadly snake. In another tale, when Muhammad was called to prayer he found his cat Muezza asleep on the sleeve of his robe; the prophet cut off the sleeve rather than disturb his cat. In a famous Hadeeth, a woman was doomed to Hell after she kept a cat till it starved to death.
Does the Saudi government know it’s going against the will of the Prophet?
Posted by Quentin George on 2006 08 25 at 07:01 AM • permalinkThe commission complained of Saudi youth, apparently influenced by Western culture, bringing their pets into public places, allegedly causing distress especially to families with young children.
Oh Puhlease, robed ones with soiled under robed garments.
It seems the same applies to Women. Speaking of…Pamela has a BONE to pick with you and your ilk.
Dogs are considered by some peoples to be unclean for the same reason as are pigs.
Both animals will readily eat human faeces, which apparently, to them at least, contain lots of undigested goodies
This tendency has been cited as reason for the ready domestication of these animals as they became “camp followers” of early human tribes.
Sorry.On the other hand, the domestication of the dog could be credited with allowing humanity to settle down and kicked off the development of agriculture and civilization. The theory I read is that dogs made it easier to defend territory—better guards than people, for one thing—and that dogs, as they attach themselves to a single person may have introduced the concept of private property to humanity.
Then there’s the fact that only a single culture (at least, to my knowledge) dislikes
dogs.And, on the gripping hand, if you don’t leave crap laying around, then no animal’s going to be able to eat it. So they’re as “unclean” as the people around them.
Posted by Rob Crawford on 2006 08 25 at 07:49 AM • permalink#20, Quentin George:
So, what you’re sayin is, cat people are probably muslim sleepers? I wonder if they’re even aware of it? Maybe they’re trained to “awaken to the cause” when their cats meow in a specific sequence?Maybe this is why there’s been so much effort in recent years in the production of a truly stink eliminating cat litter? Are they trying to make sure we cant just “follow our nose” and wrap them all up?
I wonder if the original pronunciation for muslim was meowser?
#25, Rob Crawford:
On the other hand, the domestication of the dog could be credited with allowing humanity to settle down and kicked off the development of agriculture and civilization.
I always thought it was beer that did that. If you’d just figured out how to turn that hard to chew grain stuff your lady seemed so fond of trying to feed you into the yummyliscious golden nectary goodness of beer, would you be all that motivated to run around in the woods, looking for things to throw a pointy stick at?
So, what you’re sayin is, cat people are probably muslim sleepers? I wonder if they’re even aware of it? Maybe they’re trained to “awaken to the cause” when their cats meow in a specific sequence?On the contrary, my dear person….
I think it’s the other way around.
Muslims are merely pawns of the nefarious feline puppetmasters!
Think about it….Islam appears just as cats are losing their divine nature in Egypt.
Hmmmm…..
And then, when the Templars return from the Crusades, among the many Oriental secrets they bring back…...
....cats.
The plot thickens.
And I for one welcome our new kitty overlords! They’re just as hairy as your average Islamist, but their fur is softer.
Posted by Quentin George on 2006 08 25 at 08:09 AM • permalink“Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together - MASS HYSTERIA!”
- Dr. Peter Venkman
Hmmm. Dogs, check. Cats, check. Human sacrifice (beheadings), check. Mass hysteria (Islam), check.Can Armageddon be far off? Or at least a sequel?
Posted by joe bagadonuts on 2006 08 25 at 09:03 AM • permalinkI’d love to see cats and dogs wearing those, PW!!! LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2006 08 25 at 10:52 AM • permalinkI lived in Iran for two years (under the Shah). They have the same attitude with respect to dogs as Arab Muslims. Nothing sadder than seeing a dog wandering the streets, emaciated, cringing, looking for a little love. I made the “mistake” of picking one up and bringing him home to feed him, make him well. We became attached. My landlord found out and ordered me to get rid of the dog. I told him to go to hell and he warned me he would turn me into the authorities. I told him I would kill him. Two days later I found the dog dead, poisoned. I accused the landlord. He denied it. Muslim Persians and Arabs can rot. No wonder the hate the world and each other. They’ve never been raised to love anything weaker than themselves.
Do muslim cats live in ...
purrda
..da-dumm
Posted by Wimpy Canadian on 2006 08 25 at 11:59 AM • permalink#21 AMNESTY said something about the persecution of non Western women.
A feminist journalist said something about the persecution of non western women..
SHAME on Maxine McKew,Geraldine Doogue,“Geranium” Greer,Fran Kelly,Jana Wendt,Pru Goward,Ellen Fanning,Caroline Jones,Carmen Lawrence,Julia Gillard,Ita Buttrose,Judy Moylan,Troeth,Clare Martin,Virginia Trioli,Verity James,Margaret Whitlam,Helen Clark,Cherie Blair,Jane Fonda,Hilary Clinton etc etc. Liars or lying by ommission.Abandoning women to their fate.
Far too LITTLE,far too LATE Pamela.“Barkas” works equally well with certain types of women.
Posted by Kyda Sylvester on 2006 08 25 at 02:27 PM • permalinkThe oldest known breed of dog is the Saluki.
Unlike other dogs, the saluki is not viewed as unclean by Bedouin (at least).
Posted by MentalFloss on 2006 08 25 at 07:43 PM • permalinkMental,
The “Royals” of Saudi Arabia, Jordan, and UAE all have salukis and use them to hunt. The reason they are the exception in the Koran is that they can be trained to catch the game and bring it back alive so that it can be killed in accordance to the religious practice. They predate islam (by thousands of years). They are wonderful dogs, I have two. They are very clean and don’t have a doggy odor, which is nice as they don’t like to sleep on the floor.
Ann
Surely your post contains a typo Tim. Shouldn’t it be the Commission for the Promotion of Vice and the Prevention of Virtue?
This bit, from a play by G. B. Shaw (I forget which one) describes much of the problem we face today and reads approximately thusly (going by memory here):
Britannicus (shocked): Caesar, this is not proper.
Brutus (outraged): How so?
Caesar (recovering himself): Forgive him Brutus. He is a barbarian, and thinks the customs of his tribe are the laws of the universe.
Posted by Michael Lonie on 2006 08 25 at 11:01 PM • permalinkThe sooner we don’t need their oil the better. I can’t wait for hydrogen-fuelled internal combustion engines so those fucking sandmonkeys can use all their oil to deep-fry falafels, for all I care.
Posted by Oafish and Infantile on 2006 08 26 at 05:52 AM • permalink
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