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WARMERS FUMING

As predicted, certain folks aren’t amused by a recent ABC programming decision. Andrew Bolt rounds ‘em up.

Posted by Tim B. on 05/26/2007 at 12:26 AM
  1. So, if solar output is declining and in 2040 we could see a 15-20 period of rapidly growing cold weather, that means that my retirement years are going to be nicely warm?  Cool!!  Er, uh, kewl!!

    Posted by JorgXMcKie on 2007 05 26 at 12:58 AM • permalink

  2. Hey, is anybody else having a problem accessing the new thread?

    The one about Venezuela.

    Posted by Pogria on 2007 05 26 at 01:42 AM • permalink

  3. #2, Pogria:

    I am. It must be that someone somewhere is concerned about someone saying the obvious about how them good ol’ boys in the Indie 500 will feel duty bound to put that commie bint into the wall at every opportunity.

    Not that I’d say something like that. Nope, no way, no how…not never.

    Posted by Grimmy on 2007 05 26 at 01:46 AM • permalink

  4. Thanks Grimmy, I was feeling a bit lost. Thought I’d been locked out.

    Posted by Pogria on 2007 05 26 at 01:55 AM • permalink

  5. Hell’s jetlane, Tim! When do you sleep anytime? Most folk only work an 80 hour week, ya know.

    Dude, in France they mature seven kinds of fine vintage wine in the time it takes for you to lay your burden down for a quick snooze.

    Posted by splice on 2007 05 26 at 01:55 AM • permalink

  6. Hey, I can’t get into the top thread either!

    Well, I don’t care where Blair has been or how hard he’s been working. Wake him up! And as for that lay-about Andrea Harris, so it’s 2:30 am on the US East Coast… *thinks for a moment*…

    This all wronwright’s fault!

    Posted by splice on 2007 05 26 at 02:27 AM • permalink

  7. The above thread is now repaired and open to all! Apologies for the delay, caused by headline use of the s-word.

    Posted by Tim B. on 2007 05 26 at 02:35 AM • permalink

  8. As expected, Bolt’s columns brought out the shrieking AGW faithful. It IS a religion to the Greenies. I again wonder how many of those True Believers are also 9/11 Troofers…

    Posted by Spiny Norman on 2007 05 26 at 02:38 AM • permalink

  9. #7 Tim,

    So it wasn’t wronwright’s fault? A relief, I suppose…

    Posted by Spiny Norman on 2007 05 26 at 02:43 AM • permalink

  10. I have to laugh at those who regularly talk about the loss of free speech under HoWARd also have the hide to say that to debate the issue of climate change is ‘manifestly wrong’

    Posted by Nic on 2007 05 26 at 02:51 AM • permalink

  11. “Free speech for me, but not for thee” is gospel truth to the Left.

    Posted by Spiny Norman on 2007 05 26 at 02:55 AM • permalink

  12. To save humanity, humans must be destroyed!

    Posted by Grimmy on 2007 05 26 at 03:09 AM • permalink

  13. Once again, we suppress them by talking back…

    Posted by richard mcenroe on 2007 05 26 at 03:28 AM • permalink

  14. #12

    Using the strict laws of logic, it then follows that the subhumans will survive, which means that people of no appearance will inherit the earth, and they will quickly kill each other off, leaving Gaia to herself, which means the F#@%$~! greenies won after all.
    Or does it???

    Cheers
    RodC

    Posted by Rod C on 2007 05 26 at 03:34 AM • permalink

  15. #14, Rod C:

    Donno. But what is glarinly obvious is that we must destroy our economic capacity and ability to sustain our civlization in order to ensure that our standard of living and survival of our culture can be carried successfully into the future.

    Posted by Grimmy on 2007 05 26 at 03:37 AM • permalink

  16. Dissent is the highest form of patriotism! Any attempts to argue against AGW is manifestly wrong and should be punished!

    Defeatism in crisis is the hallmark of the truly brave.

    Posted by Grimmy on 2007 05 26 at 03:40 AM • permalink

  17. Grimmy, this is deep soy-latte stuff, but I suspect for true believers, reducing the strain on the Earth caused by the errant species will take more than a winding back of the industrial revolution. To save the bio-system that supports humans, humans must be busted back to pre-intellectual animalism.

    So… hand back the blue jeans, monkeys.

    Posted by splice on 2007 05 26 at 03:41 AM • permalink

  18. Human populations must be reduced by at least 90% of current levels by whatever means necessary or humans may someday suffer from issues resulting from over population.

    In order to save the earth, mankind must be eradicated as the virus plague it is.

    Posted by Grimmy on 2007 05 26 at 03:45 AM • permalink

  19. Praise Gaia! But those crazy Islamists aren’t doing enough to kill nearly everybody.

    Ya just can’t get good help these days.

    Posted by splice on 2007 05 26 at 04:01 AM • permalink

  20. Maybe I forgot about Iran. And Pakistan worries me way beyond nervousness.

    Posted by splice on 2007 05 26 at 04:10 AM • permalink

  21. Google up RangeNet and RangeNet2000 to get some idea of what’s been going on in the US.

    This clustergaggle of moronites want to force the establishment of a “wildlife travel corridor” from the border of Mexico that runs north, through the US and into Canada. Left and right limits vary from discussion to discussion but often it includes substantial portions of the mid western grain belt on the east side and all the way to the western slopes of the sierra nevada mnts on the west side.

    All signs of human habitation to be removed and humans forbidden entry into or over the corridor.

    Posted by Grimmy on 2007 05 26 at 04:17 AM • permalink

  22. #21 - Oh for the days when wildlife travel meant a trip to Tijuana.
    #20 - yes, splice, both Iran and Pakistan are helping us to live in interesting times.
    If only the UN could be abolished, and any country which had a net outflow of population could be put under administration*!
    (*=regime change)

    Posted by blogstrop on 2007 05 26 at 04:36 AM • permalink

  23. Deep Ecology Platform

    1) The well-being and flourishing of human and nonhuman life on Earth have value in themselves (synonyms: inherent worth; intrinsic value; inherent value). These values are independent of the usefulness of the nonhuman world for human purposes.

    2) Richness and diversity of life forms contribute to the realization of these values and are also values in themselves.

    3) Humans have no right to reduce this richness and diversity except to satisfy vital needs.

    4) Present human interference with the nonhuman world is excessive, and the situation is rapidly worsening.

    5) The flourishing of human life and cultures is compatible with a substantial decrease of the human population. The flourishing of nonhuman life requires such a decrease.

    6) Policies must therefore be changed. The changes in policies affect basic economic, technological structures. The resulting state of affairs will be deeply different from the present.

    7) The ideological change is mainly that of appreciating life quality (dwelling in situations of inherent worth) rather than adhering to an increasingly higher standard of living. There will be a profound awareness of the difference between big and great.

    8) Those who subscribe to the foregoing points have an obligation directly or indirectly to participate in the attempt to implement the necessary changes.

    - Arne Naess and George Sessions

    Posted by Grimmy on 2007 05 26 at 04:43 AM • permalink

  24. #7

    Apologies for the delay, caused by headline use of the s-word.

    Science? That’s what made it go haywire?
    Sheesh!

    Posted by kae on 2007 05 26 at 04:53 AM • permalink

  25. That deep stuff deserves this:

    Go nastily amid the peace and tranquility, and remember what satisfaction there may be in genocide.

    As far as possible, without surrender, move into other people’s space.

    Lie often, and loudly; and listen to the lies of others, even the slow and incompetent—examples can be made of them later.


    Seek out meek and inoffensive persons; they are annoying, but fun to kill.

    Do not bother comparing yourself to others; those greater than you will eventually be eliminated, and those lesser than you are dead already.

    Fart in airlocks.

    Assassinate your superior as quickly as possible; your own career, however exalted, is not worth a plugged millo if one of your junior officers gets it over your dead body.

    Exercise caution if one of your course changes suddenly produces a sensor ghost; for the Galaxy is full of Federation vessels.

    But let this not blind you to the happier side of things; many Starship captains are swaggering, tin-plated dictators with delusions of godhood, and everywhere life is full of incompetence.

    Advance yourself.

    Especially do not feign meanness, neither be cynical about hate; you are not likely to run out of either.

    Take kindly the counsel of the years, gracefully surrendering the joys of defenestration and evisceration for more mature pleasures.

    Nurture a deep-seated suspicion of small furry creatures that purr; you never can tell.

    File your teeth regularly.

    Discipline is important; practice holding it in between planet falls.

    You are a scourge of the universe, no less than your average interstellar plague or black hole; you have a right to be here.

    And whether or not it is clear to you, no doubt the Universe is going to pieces in a most laudable manner.

    Therefore do your utmost to annoy the Destroyer, however you may conceive of Him, Big Bang or Entropy Death; and whatever your plans of conquest, as you wade through the morasses of peace with fire and sword, annoy your soul.

    With all its truth, high resolve, and courage, the world still has its ugly spots.

    Be thoughtless.

    Strive to be miserable.


    Found scratched on the Energy Barrier - Stardate 2832.4
    Mercilessly lifted from The Pages of tcotrel

    Disintegrata

    Posted by blogstrop on 2007 05 26 at 04:53 AM • permalink

  26. Another driving force in all this bullshit is

    Social Ecology

    Harbinger - A Journal of Social Ecology is a frighteningly fascinating read.

    Posted by Grimmy on 2007 05 26 at 04:57 AM • permalink

  27. #17, 18

    It’s already started.

    Posted by kae on 2007 05 26 at 04:58 AM • permalink

  28. Will the ABC acually show the programme, or have they bought it to leave it on the shelf?

    Posted by surfmaster on 2007 05 26 at 05:07 AM • permalink

  29. google up:

    Ecology and Revolutionary Thought by Lewis Herber (pseudonym for Murray Bookchin).

    to get a better idea of just who the AlGore is fronting for.

    Posted by Grimmy on 2007 05 26 at 05:26 AM • permalink

  30. See how much they hate you for disagreeing with them!  You’re not just wrong; you’re evil. 

    Now consider the one group of fellow Westerners who are similarly demonised these days; those who don’t believe that random events, involving nothing but matter acting spontaneously on other bits of matter, can account for the appearance and diversification of life in all its forms. 

    If you think that all these people, every single one of them, are mad, bad and dangerous, and therefore you hate them all, do please consider the possibility that some of them may know some things you don’t.  Or not.  As you wish. 

    Rationality doesn’t suit everyone.  Consensus is more about politics than it is about truth.  Sometimes the truth is not what we want to hear.

    Posted by Janice on 2007 05 26 at 06:03 AM • permalink

  31. Janice:

    The only ones I see as enemy are those that believe that humanity is a disease that must be destroyed or that have drank the eco-freek coolaide so deeply that they follow along with the cultural destroyer gurus.

    If you do any reading into the history of eco radicalism you find the roots of the more virulent communisms, anarchisms and other forms of idiotic socialistic utopianism.

    I actually appreciate the folk that work to protect wildlife areas and help develop technology that improves water/air quality and such. It’s the ones that want me dead simply for being a human that get me all “lock and load"y.

    But that’s just me being me. Others may feel differently. Its not my fault if they want to be all disagreeable and…therefore, evil.

    Posted by Grimmy on 2007 05 26 at 06:13 AM • permalink

  32. The ABC is one big collective, socialist, wannabe utopia, these days.

    I was listening to ABC FM radio tonight about 6pm and, lol, every piece was prefaced by a communist diatribe, eg. the presenter spoke of a Greek instrumental written in honor of Greek “workers” gunned down by really nasty, capitalist, fascist pigs in 1939.
    Sundry music glorifying the Eureka Stockade rebellion and similar folly followed.

    People like Jon Faine and Robyn Wiliams need to be sacked and “our” ABC reclaimed from these commie scum.

    Posted by Mike_W on 2007 05 26 at 06:36 AM • permalink

  33. #26 Grimmy

    Those guys make Stephen King look like Enid Blyton. Not that I read each section. A quick perusal of the headings was enough; I do want to sleep tonight.

    Posted by Dminor on 2007 05 26 at 07:13 AM • permalink

  34. In recent discussions on AGW where I have been able to almost convince alarmist friends that maybe, just maybe, CO2 is not the problem, there is a long silence.
    It is invariably followed by a “But we are destroying the planet anyway and we must do something about it.”
    My response: In that case the only solution is to reduce the population.
    An even longer silence follows as it sinks in. Gradually, their eyes light up as they think, “Yeah! That’s the answer.”
    Trouble is, I am now getting a reputation not as an AGW disbeliever, but as someone who believes that the population should be reduced.

    Posted by Skeeter on 2007 05 26 at 07:25 AM • permalink

  35. Never try to trick em into thinking a subject through. If they were able, they wouldnt be needing the tricks and the tricks will just confuse them more.

    Posted by Grimmy on 2007 05 26 at 07:31 AM • permalink

  36. If it makes you feel better Skeeter, offer to help your ‘friends’ towards Gaia’s mercy. After all, it’s for the good of the planet, and everyone’s lawns need good fertilising…

    *insert pitch for Soylent Green Inc, a subsidiary of Profits Associated Conglomerate Operations*

    Posted by CB on 2007 05 26 at 07:37 AM • permalink

  37. Once upon a time in a land far far away* there was a nice young Jewish boy called Jesus. He spent most of his time wandering around, healing people and saying nice things. For a geeky sort of guy, he became quite popular.

    Anyway, one day he figured he needed some space to himself and time to think things out, so he walked out into the desert. Nobody is sure whether he took a cut lunch and some juice, but after a while Jesus became rather hot and somewhat delirious.

    Pretty soon an apparition appeared before the weary traveler saying “hey there cowboy, you look like you could use a ride home!” to which Jesus replied “no, no it’s a headache I think, I’m doing just fine.”

    “Suit yourself” replied the stranger before disappearing with a loud chuk-a-chuk-a-chuk-a sound, in a flurry of dust and sand.

    Before too long another vision appeared. Its face was bright and friendly, although noticeably flushed. Leaning in a little too close it suddenly blurted “G’day mate… you look like you could use a beer!”

    Becoming annoyed by now, Jesus raised his voice. “Be gone temptation!”

    Some time passed. Forty days and a few nights they reckon. Then a truly fabulous, majestic form danced before his clouded and semi-conscious eyes.

    It raised its arms and its six hundred wings and proclaimed “I am Gabriel! Trust me… I’m a friend of your mum. I can make you wealthy and powerful beyond your wildest dreams! Just whip out your notebook and write down everything I tell you.”

    A man of very few words at the best of times, Jesus simply murmured… “Fuck off, asshole.”

    A few hundred years later, an ambitious young warlord with a keenly sharpened sword, a lust for life and all that those still alive could give, figured he needed some space to himself and time to think things out. So he walked out into the desert…

    *maps and tour itineraries available at Wronwright’s Inter-Millennial Escapes Ltd.

    Posted by splice on 2007 05 26 at 07:59 AM • permalink

  38. As a strong supporter of action against global warming, irrespective of its causes, and a regular ABC viewer

    —Lewis of Melbourne.

    Yeesh.

    Posted by moptop on 2007 05 26 at 08:28 AM • permalink


  39. It’s kind of funny to see ecosocialists in a real panic, as opposed to their manufactured one, i.e., the panic caused when people start to disagree with them and dredge up actual facts to back their position.  Williams’ nasty little screed is just so much hysterical arm-waving.

    Posted by RebeccaH on 2007 05 26 at 09:07 AM • permalink

  40. Well, RebeccaH, there’s a lot, a LOT, of people who will find their world coming to and end should AGW be debunked successfully among the mainstream.

    Posted by kae on 2007 05 26 at 09:14 AM • permalink

  41. Grimmy—A north-south wildlife corridor. 

    Because, you know, all those alligators and jaguars miss their yearly migration to Canada…

    Posted by richard mcenroe on 2007 05 26 at 09:16 AM • permalink

  42. richard:

    No one said it had to make sense…as long as it is destructive to the US, properly anti-human and makes them feel better… that’s the only prereqs.

    Posted by Grimmy on 2007 05 26 at 09:26 AM • permalink

  43. Robyn Williams:

    If you must give air time to people who insist smoking is healthy, asbestos is an ideal decongestant or air is a good substitute for food, you must serve the viewers by making sure they know they are being served swill.


    Panic indeed, Rebecca, and further evidence that the warmerers can never offer any science to rebut the scientists who disagree with them.
    To suggest that climate sceptics are part of a bunch of imaginary people making absurd claims about asbestos, smoking and nutrition, is a sure sign of desperate panic.
    Mind you, Williams may be right about his assessment of ABC viewers’ cognitive capacities.
    My assessment of him? He is a patronising, pompous arsehole.

    Posted by Skeeter on 2007 05 26 at 09:34 AM • permalink

  44. Skeeter and RebeccaH, I thought Williams’ letter was an hysterical rant.
    He has nothing to say to defend what he professes, so he compares those who don’t believe in AGW to, as you say Skeeter, a bunch of people making absurd claims about asbestos, smoking and nutrition.
    He’s really not making much sense!

    Posted by kae on 2007 05 26 at 09:39 AM • permalink

  45. Kae, Williams doesn’t actually compare sceptics to those making absurd claims. He includes the TGGWS scientists as part of the bunch of fools that shouldn’t be given precious ABC air time.

    Posted by Skeeter on 2007 05 26 at 09:52 AM • permalink

  46. Bloody hell. There goes midnight again and I start at 0500 this morning.
    Williams’s dirty trick is no doubt included in this list of dirty tricks.
    I’ll leave it to you night owls to look it up and find which of the the 38 tricks applies to Williams.
    I’m off to my virtuous couch, hopefully without waking she who must be obeyed.

    Posted by Skeeter on 2007 05 26 at 10:06 AM • permalink

  47. #34 Skeeter

    Having confronted them and got the admission that poulation must be reduced to initiate their pre-industrial paradise, pressure them with the question -What groups do you kill first, and we need a couple or three billion?

    Make em think what they are proposing, at least

    Cheers
    RodC

    Posted by Rod C on 2007 05 26 at 05:39 PM • permalink

  48. #46
    Yes, sorry, my mistake. He doesn’t compare them he includes them.
    That’s worse I think.
    I told you it was hysterical.

    Posted by kae on 2007 05 26 at 06:46 PM • permalink

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